Thread: Working with Motor club of America

Motor Club of America provides Auto Benefits outside of your insurance company. Have you ever broken down on the side of the road?
Booked a vacation or travel plans through the airline? Ordered a Prescription? Have you every been paid to purchase any of these?
Learn about how you can benefit financially by doing the same things you are already doing and get paid each and every week!
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Check Out These Benefits Include:

- Emergency Roadside Assistance- Free towing 100 miles
- $80 Per Referral Brought In( 19.95 plan- Best plan)
- $500 Arrest Bond Certificate
- $2,000 In Attorney Fees
- $25,000 Bail Bond/Felony
- 24 Hour Coverage If Injured
- Travel Assistance/Trip Planning
- $500 Emergency Room Cash
- $5,000 Stolen Vehicle Reward
- Up to a 65% Discount On Prescriptions
-Up to a 50% Discount on Dental & Vision
- $50,000 Accidental Death
- $1,000 Credit Card Protection
- $54,750 In Hospital Coverage Paid Directly To You

And given how many serial Ponzi-hoppers and cash gifters are jumping onto this programme's bandwagon, I'd wager that there is something shady behind the scenes that you aren't telling us. That kind of marketer showing up in droves says that something dishonest is afoot.

Sorry you feel that way, there is nothing me or anybody else can say to change your mind. So do your own research, if you can find where it is a scam that when you purchase a product yourself and see how it works, because I have broke down and had MCA help me out. show me proof that it is a scam.

I work hard to put this in front of people. There is no cash gifting ponzi scheme about this company and I think it is very rude to label something if you have no proof. By you saying stuff like that you take away from people actually having a legit work at home situation. Im new to this forum and I already see what you will run into on these forums.

So why did you post here in the first place, John? The site is set up to either call out scams or for people to ask if something is a scam.

Behind MLM has this - but it looks like they are talking about a 3rd party recruitment system for MCA and not MCA itself:
TVC Matrix Review: Motor club and recruitment | BehindMLM

From BehindMLM.com

"The Motor Club of America (MCA) are an auto club and provide mostly roadside assistance via monthly membership, they are also owned by TVC Matrix’s owner, Virgil Coffee."

Again, From BehindMLM.com

"With no retailable products or services and no distinction between TVC Matrix members and MCA members, that right there is pretty much your textbook definition of a pyramid scheme. Unless members recruit new members and those new members pay an ongoing membership fee, nobody gets paid."

Type any program name into google or youtube and add the word "Scam" at the end and you will find someone calling it a scam and selling something else...but that doesn't mean its a ponzi scheme. MCA is making a lot of people money...but I admit...the way some people present the Motor Club of America opportunity seems shady...but that is with any program out there. Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

And given how many serial Ponzi-hoppers and cash gifters are jumping onto this programme's bandwagon, I'd wager that there is something shady behind the scenes that you aren't telling us. That kind of marketer showing up in droves says that something dishonest is afoot.

Originally Posted by WorkHomeAgents

Type any program name into google or youtube and add the word "Scam" at the end and you will find someone calling it a scam and selling something else...but that doesn't mean its a ponzi scheme. MCA is making a lot of people money...but I admit...the way some people present the Motor Club of America opportunity seems shady...but that is with any program out there. Just my 2 cents.

I'd have to respectfully disagree with your first point, WorkHomeAgents.

In my experience the vast majority of "MCA - scam" results returned by Google are, in fact, placed by those selling and promoting MCA and NOT by rival companies and/or sellers of other products.

It's another "red flag" for those looking for a genuine opportunity.

As for ProfHenryHiggins' theory that "something shady is afoot" IM(very)HO the "TVC Matrix" part of MCA fits the bill perfectly.

It is entirely possible within the current TVC model to be used as a pyramid scheme / "endless chain" recruiting system.

IOW, members pay to sign up and earn solely from recruitment alone.

This practice and the fact TVC/MCA allow it to happen raises giant questions and red flags for genuine potential members.

* It's illegal.

* It damages the reputation of the company/s

* It condemns the company to premature failure

Sure, MCA may be, as you say "making a lot of people a lot of money" but, so did Zeek Rewards and so do many pyramid endless chain recruiting systems FOR A WHILE.

In short, readers looking to play money games are probably being drawn to MCA, as is evidenced by the thousands of get-rich-quickers jumping on board.

On the other hand, I suspect serious MLMers will keep their wallets firmly tucked in their back pockets.

If you bothered to read, what I said wasn't that the programme was a scam in itself, but that the kind of folks who flock to scams in preference to honest opportunities are moving to it like a plague of locusts. Ergo, something isn't right about it, otherwise these people wouldn't be attracted to it.

the reason people flock to it is because it is legit, and I have made money and people I know have made money, Also the benefits are real, It is so cheap it beats out AAA in benefits. That is why people run to this opportunity, Small investment pretty good income. I'm sorry I did not understand you the first time. I apologize

Originally Posted by jweidow

the reason people flock to it is because it is legit, and I have made money and people I know have made money

Can I steal that for a signature?

Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

If you bothered to read, what I said wasn't that the programme was a scam in itself, but that the kind of folks who flock to scams in preference to honest opportunities are moving to it like a plague of locusts. Ergo, something isn't right about it, otherwise these people wouldn't be attracted to it.

How do you know that since you're not from the U.S. anyways? Why did I said that you're not from the U.S.? Simple, your spelling of Programme is a dead give-a-way. Nice try Professor.

Originally Posted by GeminiDogg

How do you know that since you're not from the U.S. anyways?

What strange logic.

Here's the thing,

I'm not from the U.S.A. either.

Despite that, I know Barack Obama is its' president.

Ain't the internet wonderful ???

Originally Posted by GeminiDogg

How do you know that since you're not from the U.S. anyways? Why did I said that you're not from the U.S.? Simple, your spelling of Programme is a dead give-a-way. Nice try Professor.

Hate to burst your bubble that you know that the Prof is not from the US, because you are wrong. The good Prof is from right here in the good 'ole USA.

Originally Posted by GeminiDogg

How do you know that since you're not from the U.S. anyways? Why did I said that you're not from the U.S.? Simple, your spelling of Programme is a dead give-a-way. Nice try Professor.

What makes the difference where anybody is from?

Originally Posted by baylee

What makes the difference where anybody is from?

None at all.

But, he's gotta at least try to distract attention away from the subject at hand.

That's his job.

So what was your http://www.automatedmoneysystem.org website before you made it into a re-direct to your girlfriend's MCA page, John?

Taking a few looks around the Internet, you're spewing about this program like a newly converted Christian in the throes of ecstasy without the first clue as to what his new-found savior actually teaches. You're also spouting off on Solavei, just joined IBOToolbox, and your Empower Network blog left me shaking my head. Perhaps I should take MCA up on their anti-spam policy and point out all the places you advertised Miss Hochberg's sign-up page. Some of them definitely did not comply with the rules of the websites you used. Youtube, for example.

Because for once in my life I trully believe in what Im posting thats why And for the automatedmoneysystem.org I created because it was a very catchy name especially for people looking for at home opps. and before it was directed to another page which was a free training video, I have been nothing but honest so if you are here just to ruin people be my guessed, I didnt know it was illegal to share info sorry

Originally Posted by jweidow

I didnt know it was illegal to share info sorry

Illegal or not illegal, what you're doing is just plain bloody stupid.

If you simply can't see or are consciously avoiding the multitude of warnings signs and red flags, so be it.

You cannot expect, however to be able to do so and then expect members of a forum named REALSCAM.com to allow you to post unchallenged.

Oh, and, by the way, what's with the "I didnt know it was illegal to share info, sorry" c**p ??? What, did you REALLY expect to be able to post your poorly disguised spam and get away with it ??

Good luck with that marketing strategy

Get used to it, you and your lady are competing with a who's who of scammers, spammers, HYIPers and cash gifters promoting MCoA.

John, John, John... you came running into a website devoted to exploring fraud and exposing con men, gleefully advertising a program. What did you expect us to do, behave like giddy schoolgirls and fawn at every word?

It's not illegal to share info, but when you present yourself as a target to be investigated like that, you really should expect some injuries to your pride at the very least.

I didnt mean any harm in posting it here, I just saw that everything was being seen as a scam, and this is not a scam. I appreciate you keeping people safe. I am one who was scammed before, But scamming people is not me. I have my own family and would never even think about scamming. So if you would investigate this opportunity and if you find anything scammy let me know. Because I am just trying to find a way to generate legitimate income

Thank you

So where, other than the program's own promotional sites, would I find references to this Motor Club of America that supposedly goes back to 1928?

How are prospective recruits supposed to tell whether the claimed history is accurate, embellished, or swiped from unrelated sources and sewn together to make the business look good?

Here are sites hosted on the same ip as tvcmatrix.com:
americanhomeclub.net
americasmotorclub.net
glenncoffee.com
legendsnetwork.com
motorclubofamerica.net
mymotorclubentry.com
myperfectjob.net
onetouchonline.com
tvcmarketing.com
tvcmatrix.com
tvcmatrix.net

BBB Report for TVC:

http://www.bbb.org/oklahoma-city/bus...c-in---9002308

Contact Information
Principal: Ms. Lynn Havener (Office Manager)
Mr. Virgil Coffee (President & C.E.O.)
Mr. V. Glenn Coffee (General Counsel for TVC)
Mr. Kent Melton (Secretary/Treasurer)
Mr. Bob Thompson
Business Category
Road Service-Automotive, Legal Services Plans, Attorney Referral Service

The BBB Report says:
"Business Category
Road Service-Automotive, Legal Services Plans, Attorney Referral Service

Products & Services
This company offers motor club memberships for truckers."

I haven't tested all of the "club" websites, but the few I did went to parked pages or error pages.

The locations in the BBB Report are:
3200 W. Wilshire
Oklahoma City, OK 73116
Directions

P. O. Box 20490
Oklahoma City, OK 73156-0490
Directions

The Wilshire address is a UPS location:
UPS Drop Box - 3200 W WILSHIRE BLVD, OKLAHOMA CITY, OK Pickup Time - Location and Hours

When I searched in the actual UPS locator TVC Marketing shows up - does that mean they're possibly the owner of the UPS store? I don't remember seeing that in the past with the locator service.

Yep---this is the forum to post your free ad promoting your illegal activities---Roll up,Roll up!

It saves us a heap of time searching for you guys when you simply turn up of your own accord!

Originally Posted by JustTooMuchTime

P. O. Box 20490
Oklahoma City, OK 73156-0490
Directions

That was the Nicole Hills Bank, in 2010. How long has TVC Matrix been using this post office box?