Thread: UhOh - Club Asterias' successor, CenturionWealthCircle complete with the same pimps

LISTEN..................

What's that sound ??





Yep,

you're right,

It's the sound of a penny dropping as somebody finally realizes the truth about HYIP ponzi shills and pimps:

I gotta tell ya, the firefight over at MMG over this crap "program" is fun, more so since there isn't really much action from "naysayers", just disgruntled members...!

If you haven't seen one of these bottom-of-the-cycle periods in the world of HYIP ponzi games before, be prepared for a far greater turnover of programs than you thought possible.

Shortly after the collapse of 12Daily pro, one of its' prominent pimps, known as "gonnabefamous" / "scarednvestor" made the observation that the "average" HYIP at the time had a lifespan of around 19 days.

IM(very)HO, this down cycle hasn't bottomed out yet and it will be some time before sufficient "new blood" with "new money" can be found to improve things.

It appears the great majority of HYIPers at the minute are desperado "players"

Centurion Wealth Circle made its' first appearance on Talkgold on June 26 and it's now dead in the water. Not even 60 days.

MunnyMadness first Talkgold appearance was May 29 It's now a dead ponzi

Cash4Adz appeared on July 18 and even the superPIMP, "ecoupons" was saying it was in trouble by July 20 - 2 DAYS after it was listed

Originally Posted by laidback

I gotta tell ya, the firefight over at MMG over this crap "program" is fun, more so since there isn't really much action from "naysayers", just disgruntled members...!

I went over there and read for while, the sheeple are strating to see what they pimps are trying to do! It is so obvious, stroes/manolo, ecoupouns, lolalola, and some others. As LRM pointed out some of the sheeple are waking up and posting their displeasure. It is fun to see it.

The pimps are on a last ditch, full scale effort for new money. Newbies should be able to see straight thru the crap that ecoupons, stroes/manolo/, blondie, munnymachine and a few others are putting out now.

i think i see that they are making the tornado now

Hands up anyone who believes Centurion Wealth Circle will survive long enough to:

a) make it to round 2 without collapsing first

b) scam enough new money to actually complete round 2

I vote:

a) no

b) no

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Hands up anyone who believes Centurion Wealth Circle will survive long enough to:

a) make it to round 2 without collapsing first

b) scam enough new money to actually complete round 2

I vote:

a) no

b) no

c) Hell no!

d) NFW!

There, fixed it for ya! After all you needed to offer choices...!lol

Hmmnn,

Give them 4 choices, hey ??

That's 4 more choices than Centurion Wealth Circle members have got.

The only choice they have is choosing whether to acknowledge their money is gone, now or later

Centurion has their money, and the members sure as hell ain't getting any of it back

Originally Posted by baylee

The pimps are on a last ditch, full scale effort for new money. Newbies should be able to see straight thru the crap that ecoupons, stroes/manolo/, blondie, munnymachine and a few others are putting out now.

That blondie is one of the worst con artists opperating at MMG IMO....Knows full well how the game is played and how to take advantage of the newbs...Much worse then stroz and right up there with Ken russo IMO.......

Originally Posted by Okosh

right up there with Ken russo IMO.......

That bad, eh ??

I KNEW there was a reason I stopped bathing in that cesspool

Originally Posted by okosh

That blondie is one of the worst con artists opperating at MMG IMO....Knows full well how the game is played and how to take advantage of the newbs...Much worse then stroz and right up there with Ken russo IMO.......

she does not like trolls :D

Originally Posted by The Dark Defender

she does not like trolls :D

So she doesn't like herself?

This is a post from stroes/manolo at MMG. He is bragging about 200 referrals, what a pimp.



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I hope we get paid before Phase 2 starts, this way we can buy in again.

Just got an email notification, reached my 200th Direct Referral

Originally Posted by baylee

This is a post from stroes/manolo at MMG. He is bragging about 200 referrals, what a pimp.



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I hope we get paid before Phase 2 starts, this way we can buy in again.

Just got an email notification, reached my 200th Direct Referral

haha what a pricise 200 referrals he has

LOL! The kiddies in this are having orgasms all over themselves getting paid their own money from the "tornado"

Faith Sloan has got some egg on her face over this. Quote from Faith's blog. Faith Sloan Gray Matter: Making Cash, Advertising/Marketing, and Ramblings - faithsloan.com

We don’t know what the future holds for Centurion Wealth Circle, but my first 6 $15 ad purchases/tokens earned an average of 5.73% a day in the last 10 days.
Now that is WONDERFULLY LUCRATIVE!
CLICK HERE TO JOIN CWC TODAY!

Originally Posted by laidback

LOL! The kiddies in this are having orgasms all over themselves getting paid their own money from the "tornado"

Back in the dark ages when "playas" like to pretend HYIP ponzi games were played by a set of rules, an admin would simply tell his members that round 1 was finished and further deposits would be required if round 2 was to begin.

Now, times are so tough, they pretend to introduce "tornadoes" and all sorts of new variations to get the punters to pony up more dollars.

What's really sad is, many of the new breed of HYIP ponzi game players don't realize they're being done over and actually front up with new deposits.

Not only are they getting shafted, but they actually thank the admin and his/her pimps for giving them the opportunity to BE shafted.

If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Back in the dark ages when "playas" like to pretend HYIP ponzi games were played by a set of rules, an admin would simply tell his members that round 1 was finished and further deposits would be required if round 2 was to begin.

Them's were the good old days when an admin said, "Here is hyip and we pay till 90%" or 80% or whatever....
Stats were on home page so you knew exactly at what stage the game was at....
Back then so long as the admin didn't run away with the money the players saw that as an "honest"(yet illegal) game or punt....

Was hard enough for newbs back then but todays hyips are total BS and the newbs ain't got a chance.....

Worth noting for those who followed Mutts last scam a post made by MMG mod MordK some weeks b4 that ponzi stopped paying....
MordK declared that he/she was "out" and would not be making fresh deposit....
Seems that the "oval office" or inner circle of those in the know is alive and well....
Sure looks like a organized few who are systematically ripping off those not in the know....
It's pure fraud and must be stopped....

JMO

Originally Posted by Okosh

It's pure fraud and must be stopped....

Couldn't have said it better, myself.

The days when playing HYIP ponzi games could be rationalized and/or justified as being just another form of "gambling" are long gone.

Unfortunately, it's been ignored by those-in-a-position-to-do-something-about-it (read: politicians) for too long, IM(very)HO, and it's now become a worldwide multi billion dollar virtual black economy.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Couldn't have said it better, myself.

The days when playing HYIP ponzi games could be rationalized and/or justified as being just another form of "gambling" are long gone.

Unfortunately, it's been ignored by those-in-a-position-to-do-something-about-it (read: politicians) for too long, IM(very)HO, and it's now become a worldwide multi billion dollar virtual black economy.

And its yet another reason we in the US should have the fair tax/flat tax so at least the illegal gains would be taxed when spent but dont get me started on that. As ruthless as the IRS can be they still cant seem to do anything about these scammers gains and the payment processors are the root of the problem.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Couldn't have said it better, myself.

The days when playing HYIP ponzi could be rationalized and/or justified as being just another form of "gambling" are long gone.

Unfortunately, it's been ignored by those-in-a-position-to-do-something-about-it (read: politicians) for too long, IM(very)HO, and it's now become a worldwide multi billion dollar virtual black economy.

Whoops, double post.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Unfortunately, it's been ignored by those-in-a-position-to-do-something-about-it (read: politicians) for too long, IM(very)HO, and it's now become a worldwide multi billion dollar virtual black economy.

To which I would add in bold . . . "[I]t's now become a worldwide multi billion dollar virtual black economy in which these huge sums disappear down ratholes that branch out through a network of supremely murky and dangerous conduits, resulting in a condition in which criminals, organized-crime outlets, narcotics traffickers, political extremists and terrorists are positioned to derive unwarranted and destructive economic power. The (current) sad reality is that, even if an airliner gets blown from the sky, a place of worship or a packed bus gets bombed, a car packed with explosives suddenly detonates on a crowded street during lunch hour, a power grid gets crippled or a water supply gets poisoned -- and if law enforcement is able to peel back enough layers of the onion to trace all or part of the money to an HYIP with feeder schemes -- the ink on the headlines won't even be dry when a non-"admin" posts a new "opportunity" on the Ponzi boards, a shill announces a "test spend" and other shills fuel the madness with their "I got paid" posts (as the "naysayers" get the boot).

On a (slightly) hopeful note, some U.S. lawmakers and the USDOJ have proposed the "The Incorporation Transparency and Law Enforcement Assistance Act" as "Another Tool to Fight Transnational Crime."

The bill, which was introduced earlier this month, is worth a read (and a considered analysis):

http://levin.senate.gov/download/inc...assistance-act

Americans, perhaps, are most apt to recall some of the post-9/11 headlines about the lack of pre-9/11 imagination of the United States -- and the U.S. bureaucracy -- in analyzing emerging threats, sharing information, asking "What if" questions, plugging security holes and using the current known condition to examine how a threat could evolve into an even bigger threat.

Here is an example of a pre-9/11 "What if" question in the context of a perceptible but hard to analyze threat: "What if the terrorists decide that traditional forms of terrorism have run their course or pose too high of a risk of being detected and a new form must evolve in which airliners are hijacked and used as weapons of mass destruction by suicide bombers? What if we are not doing a good enough job of anticipating how a threat could evolve?"

I think the criminal subculture of Ponzi as evidenced on the fraud boards demands "What if" questions -- in no small measure because so many of these schemes use an appeal to religion and are advanced by people who claim to be among the faithful and/or espouse an antigovernment view. The criminals know religion "works." And they know that greed "works." And they know that targeting people whose lives have been turned upside down by poor economic conditions "works." And they know that positioning the government as the enemy "works."

So, "What if groups who oppose a particular religion are posing as members of that religion on the Ponzi boards to gather money to attack that religion in the most violent ways imaginable?"

And "What if narcotics traffickers have formed a maze of LLCs and are using the Ponzis and their shills to create a condition that permits money-laundering to flourish globally?"

The traffickers may not even be players. They could be monitoring the boards with the express purpose of finding "opportunities" in which their army of midlevel dealers can get a debit card or prepaid credit card through a "program" and offload the cash later at an ATM or legitimate bank. The "program" operators could be in bed with the traffickers. In other words, the operators know that certain special members of the "program" have no interest in gleaning earnings from the "program"; they just need a conduit through which they can move money in quickly and get it out quickly.

Indeed, the Ponzi boards and their apologists and life-sustaining, complicit, see-no-evil, wink-nod shills are a "What if" if ever there was one:

* "What if the 'sovereign citizen' extremists are using them to stockpile funds for fertilizer bombs?"
* "What if antigovernment extremists are using them to destabilize governments?"
* What if "lone wolf" terrorists and small bands of sympathizers are using them to fund local incidents of terror?"
* "What if the Steroidal Puppeteers are actually silent (or even unknowing partners) with [fill in the blank] . . ."

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If the incongruity of what's happening in, on and around the HYIP ponzi world and what society is being told, wasn't so bloody serious, one would almost be tempted to laugh.

For some reason, this one from a few years back sticks in my mind:

Freezing nuns bank account a result of Patriot Act move
The Washington Times ^ | Jen Haberkorn

When checks began bouncing at Holy Name Monastery of the Benedictine Sisters last year, Sister Jean Abbott knew something was fishy.


Her calls to the bank revealed that the St. Leo, Fla., account was frozen for five days because one of the account's signatories -- an 80-year-old nun -- didn't have an identification card on file. The bank blamed the USA Patriot Act for the account freeze.

"The local bank said it was the Patriot Act," said Sister Abbott, who declined to identify the bank. "Someone at the main office of the bank had done, according to the local bank, a spot check on the account, which they do periodically."


The Patriot Act strengthened the Bank Secrecy Act, which requires financial institutions, including banks, creditors and even casinos, to inform the U.S. Treasury Department of transactions they find to be out of the ordinary. But even the Patriot Act cannot close an account -- only a bank can do that.


The number of suspicious transactions that financial institutions are reporting to the government has nearly tripled since the Patriot Act was passed in 2001. A suspicious act could be a business that doesn't normally use cash but suddenly starts making large cash deposits, or a person who normally deposits just a paycheck and suddenly makes a few deposits of tens of thousands of dollars.


Both could be legitimate transactions, but they also could be a sign of money laundering or other illegal activity.

So both cases will draw a red flag from a bank, prompting it to file a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR), which is sent to the Treasury Department to determine whether the transaction is fraudulent and to start a paper trail that investigators can use later if necessary.

Freezing nuns bank account a result of Patriot Act move

One shudders to think how many billions of dollars flow through the accounts of the thousands of HYIPs found on Talkgold alone, much less the "industry"

Soooo, were they worried that the nuns were terrorists, or wanted to make sure the monastery was paying its taxes...?