Thread: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

Originally Posted by littleroundman

It comes as no surprise that Scoville is now turning this into a religious crusade:

a faux one at that. if he is going to allude that he is somehow truly religious, one would think he could properly capitalize 'Almighty' and 'Creator'.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

I submit most of them could care less beyond $55 for every $50 pack purchased and 10% commission for roping suckers. All this talk about The Lord, Paypal, a bank in Dubai, and jealousy = no one thoroughly discussing advertising.


For reference http://www.realscam.com/f16/simon-stepsys-3342/ is sponsor number 195 in http://www.realscam.com/f9/my-advert...am-ponzi-3439/. One of his claims is he joined to get all this "great traffic" to his website, from the 194 people ahead of him? Anecdotal business discussions about leads for other shady deals is as good as it gets with this crowd.

and from a website that doesn't sell anything. lol

Originally Posted by E2014T

It is selling advertising and it is a game.

It's an (illegal) online money game with a product(advertising) thrown in to make it look like a legitimate business....No different to a million MLM's out there with a crappy e-book or an over priced whatever that nobody will buy as the product to disguise the endless recruiting chain.......
The emphasis in TM is on recruiting and buying worthless adpacks on which you get a 10% ROI.....

Originally Posted by E2014T

If you are sure, go convince people who believe PayPal gives a damn about them. Then come back and report how many you have convinced and how many you have pissed off.

Paypal is the best pay processor ever....They abide by the "law of the land" and they don't allow scams like TM....With any luck there really is $62million in the account which will make the job of a receiver a lot easier to return funds to victims if we get to that stage.....

Nobody cares how pissed off you and the players get....

Originally Posted by E2014T

The rest of the population can think for themselves.

Obviously,

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we better wrap it up.

Originally Posted by E2014T

But no one else but players needs you.

What makes you think the players need us??....You think the players need/want us disrupting the flow of fresh suckers to deposit funds into the scams so that they can get paid with that money???????????...

I thought you understood how this "industry" works....Clearly you have no clue....

Originally Posted by E2014T

Well, no one else does, so it must be them :p

Says who??....You and your irrelevant bestie over over at WLD??.....

Elena you can bring all the ridiculous arguments and BS statements you can dream up but you still can't do thing one to stop the effectiveness of RealScam forum....

Originally Posted by E2014T

Who is going to believe a collection of misfits?

People that are confirming a suspicion and some of the ones running either side of the fence I suspect. Many folks don't know about money/scams and appreciate others taking the time to educate them.

Before I joined I read what many of the posters here had to say and certainly found them credible. Beyond that I learned quite a bit about variations of online frauds from many of the same. I was certainly not new to cons, nor am I easily wowed.
So a I have to imagine a lot of great writers past and present that took time and energy to put up quality posts have a few raving fans.

Originally Posted by E2014T

People who can think for themselves don't need RS, they are fine without you.

People that can change their own oil don't need Lube N Go. Maybe some people find us entertaining?

Originally Posted by E2014T

It's the believers you are after, and you are a lot more likely to piss them off them off than to convince them the activity is illegal.

Personally it's the true victims I'm after, and I think you underestimate the amount of fun this is.

Originally Posted by E2014T

The only true victims I can think of are people who really can't read or count very well, and short of of teaching them how to, what can be done about them?

Some people are teachable, some learn, and some will end up doing the same stupid **** they always have.

Originally Posted by E2014T

The only true victims I can think of are people who really can't read or count very well, and short of of teaching them how to, what can be done about them?

Where is the world are you getting that? Many victims I have become acquainted with are folks holding master's degrees, JDs (law degrees), CPAs and the like. They are very well educated and informed. Their flaw was that they are honest, trusting people and tend to see others as having those same qualities. I do not like the blame the victim philosophy you seem to be espousing or the idea that victims are not intelligent. Even the victims without a lot of formal education are often very bright. Some victims are very desperate for money and blinded by great need. How sad a turn this thread is taking.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

People that are confirming a suspicion and some of the ones running either side of the fence I suspect. Many folks don't know about money/scams and appreciate others taking the time to educate them.

Before I joined I read what many of the posters here had to say and certainly found them credible. Beyond that I learned quite a bit about variations of online frauds from many of the same. I was certainly not new to cons, nor am I easily wowed.
So a I have to imagine a lot of great writers past and present that took time and energy to put up quality posts have a few raving fans.



People that can change their own oil don't need Lube N Go. Maybe some people find us entertaining?



Personally it's the true victims I'm after, and I think you underestimate the amount of fun this is.

these same old wacky scammer arguments fail at every turn yet again.
This site, nor anyone legitimately posting against scams here, loses one damn thing if no one needs this place or reads here.
We aren't the ones asking anyone for their money.

Originally Posted by E2014T

The only true victims I can think of are people who really can't read or count very well, and short of of teaching them how to, what can be done about them?

Originally Posted by E2014T

If they are teachable, they need a reading comprehension class and a remedial math class. If they believe PayPal is going to take care of them if TM is illegal, even calculus isn't going to save them.

You also seem to be inferring that "Click 10 ADS" and retire are the only types of scams that interest me. There are plenty long and short cons out there that otherwise intelligent people fall for. Doctors and other professionals are notorious for getting scammed in all manner of shady investments. 10 Types of People Who Fall for Scams, Schemes and Cons - DailyFinance

I can't hang out in every gym, country club, and boardroom in America to find out who's zooming who. I can find some of the current scams on the internet and entertain myself. Someone could easily take what is said here and apply it 20 years from now in hard money loans, split strike conversions, viatical and prefunded lawsuit settlements. Any of these offline scams could easily be avoided by some of the same principles applied to a backbench scam like Traffic Monsoon.

Back on topic....

Charles is now king......LMAO.....And an admission that we ARE making a difference and that we are effective....WOOHHOO!!!

William Bryant

The thing what people have to keep in mind about Traffic Monsoon is that we've had crybabies with us from the start: "Why no cashlinks", "why my ad not approved", "accounts not updating", all that junk.

But here's what real Traffic Monsooners know about Traffic Monsoon: We don't make money from the crybabies- no how.

There's a certain mindset in Traffic Monsoon that just gets it, understands the intent of the business, and knows the representation behind the business. And It's that mindset behind we the people who drive Traffic Monsoon is the one that we also know is the reason why these crybabies don't phase us.

Y'all ain't seen the forces gathering, all the videos, the rallying? Y'all will never see what's really going on! Y'all can think this is a game if y'all want to. Y'all can listen to all the naysayers, all the Taras Talks, all the whoevers y'all want to. None of that will ever phase Traffic Monsoon.

I'm telling y'all this just as I've told y'all about scams in the past: If you think the crybabies, or anyone out there on their high horse now can stop this impending freight train known as Traffic Monsoon - I say watch and see what unfolds right before your cyberspace eyes.

You will see not a phoenix rising from the ashes-

But a king repositioning itself on a throne. All will see this dynasty never fold under pressure. That much I promise you of.#Iajs

Originally Posted by okosh

Charles is now king......

My apologies to all who live in a Commonwealth country like Australia, Canada or New Zealand.....The thought of Charles ever being king is enough to make us puke.....

Originally Posted by okosh

.And an admission that we ARE making a difference and that we are effective....WOOHHOO!!!

It simply doesn't matter if we are making a difference or are effective in the eyes of ponzi pimps and apologists.

We are all volunteers.

Membership is free.

We have no advertisers to satisfy.

Membership isn't compulsory.

Heeding the advice isn't compulsory.

The number of readers doesn't affect the quality or quantity of information posted.

One person accepting the information and not becoming involved in a fraudulent operation is worth the very minor irritation of dealing with a hundred ponzi pimps and apologists

Traffic Monsoon for dummies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0eXLsZ35H0

Perhaps it would be better if it were entitled "Traffic Monsoon for Dummies BY Dummies"

Recognizing a blatant ponzi scam has now turned into a life lesson, apparently.





That's the ticket, Asim, bury your head in the sand, send Scoville more money and things will work out

Companies House UK

The address used is a serviced office....Pay the rent...Use the address to register the BS company without ever stepping foot in the door....
Typical scammers trick....

Imperial Offices Ltd.

Once again Paypal is emailed, once again the reply is a blow-off script. Draw your own conclusions.

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Previously I emailed you about the Traffic Monsoon Ponzi scam. The latest claim is Paypal is illegally holding $60,000,000 of their money therefore members can't be paid. This is coming from Charles Scoville himself, a very well known scam artist.

If you have not already your legal team and the feds should be involved since they are making a mockery of Paypal as a legitimate payment processor.


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The way the below discussion looks to me is this person spent $20,000 up front to make $700 per month from people clicking his links. (Assuming both are the gospel)

1. He is three years to break even since as it stands right now he can't get cash from his 1000 packs.
2. There is no indication this $700 will exist in perpetuity. Folks have a nasty habit of quitting stuff like this at a pretty good clip.
3. There is no indication he would have invested $20,000 in advertising if he wasn't able to magically get all his money back when the campaign ended.
4. When this implodes he may lose more than he made from referral links, plus credibility as marketer from some that followed him.

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Example: a person says he is making $700/month from advertising in TM. Instead of discussing the value of advertising and maybe talking to a person a little more about it, you decide it doesn't fit your worldview and it's off-topic, but it's more on topic than your sarcasm. http://www.realscam.com/f22/educatin...html#post97704

As I purchased 400 adpacks in the first place I created multiple banners for the same link and I reached 1000 adpacks so I am able to repurchase 20 new adpacks/day and I creat one banner for one adpack...
http://www.realscam.com/f22/educatin...html#post97707

Keep stringin' 'em along, li'l cowboy, just keep stringin' 'em along

while he's waiting.......he could be taking Paypal to court to get the alleged 'money' back out.

Originally Posted by Whip

while he's waiting.......he could be taking Paypal to court to get the alleged 'money' back out.

Couldn't he also be sharing all that current revenue that makes this yummy goodness possible?