Thread: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

Originally Posted by stacy532

i told charles that i only accept money from online marketers i want him to keep the new members money away from my account

You keep forgetting you are Charles' beyotch, not the other way around.

Originally Posted by stacy532

oh ok i get it .. fair enough i dont get much referral commissions i use it to pay them all back im actually in hole on that deal.. April my last newest one is paid in full now.. i told charles that i only accept money from online marketers i want him to keep the new members money away from my account...lol

Then you're one of the worst type of ponzi players.

Every time you get paid, it's from the fees of somebody who joined after you.

That "somebody" is one of the 90+% of Traffic Monsoon members who will end up as losers.

Originally Posted by stacy532

. i told charles that i only accept money from online marketers. l

Marketers? No marketer worth his or her salt would have anything to do with TM

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Marketers? No marketer worth his or her salt would have anything to do with TM

Yeah, but it makes them feel better to call themselves "marketers" rather than "serial ponzi pimps" or "recruiters for illegal ponzi and pyramid schemes"

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Yeah, but it makes them feel better to call themselves "marketers" rather than "serial ponzi pimps" or "recruiters for illegal ponzi and pyramid schemes"

Does it really? What difference does it make what you call yourself in public? At the end of the day, you still have to live with yourself and it's pretty hard to deceive yourself, but maybe they do manage.

Originally Posted by E2014T

Does it really? What difference does it make what you call yourself in public? At the end of the day, you still have to live with yourself and it's pretty hard to deceive yourself, but maybe they do manage.

Denial and delusion are very real and powerful forces.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Denial and delusion are very real and powerful forces.

They are, but if everything you get involved in online ends up being a scam, it's time to stop promoting.

Originally Posted by stacy532

Ken Nairne Traffic Monsoon is a business, just like any other businesses and will go through changes from time to time.

Shocked he didn't use the genteelism "growing pains" that is usual SOP when a Ponzi loses it's payment processor or has to upgrde servers.

Originally Posted by E2014T

They are, but if everything you get involved in online ends up being a scam, it's time to stop promoting.

Not if you're only pretending to be a naive true believer and you know exactly what you're doing.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Not if you're only pretending to be a naive true believer and you know exactly what you're doing.

But that only makes it harder to live with yourself. No amount of money can compensate for a peace of mind and the ability to sleep well at night. It's one thing to believe the impossible, that's being stupid to the extreme. It's quite another to intentionally drag people into what you know is a wrong thing to do.

Originally Posted by E2014T

But that only makes it harder to live with yourself. No amount of money can compensate for a peace of mind and the ability to sleep well at night. It's one thing to believe the impossible, that's being stupid to the extreme. It's quite another to intentionally drag people into what you know is a wrong thing to do.

Nah,

It's 2016, there's a whole substrata of Western society who genuinely don't care, or have pangs of conscience as long as they get what they want.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Nah,

It's 2016, there's a whole substrata of Western society who genuinely don't care, or have pangs of conscience as long as they get what they want.

But they won't get what they want. What they want is freedom to do what they want. What they get in the industry is slavery worse than the one they had in the society.

Originally Posted by E2014T

But they won't get what they want. What they want is freedom to do what they want. What they get in the industry is slavery worse than the one they had in the society.

Hey, I didn't say they were smart, only that they are self centered and without a conscience

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Hey, I didn't say they were smart, only that they are self centered and without a conscience

So what are we going to do about Bimbo boy? Not only he has a conscience, he is not self-centered. This anomaly doesn't belong here and needs to be fixed ASAP.

Originally Posted by stacy532

i dont have any problem with that statement and that is a valid opinion..
what i dont like is when folks make up nonsense about stuff they have no idea about . but pretend to know so much.. and then act all arrogant like it makes the nonsense that much more true..

like when they know how much money is owed to the members . they know how much is spent . they know what the admin ate for breakfast... you know the nonsense...lol

Ah but we do know how much money Charles owes to the members for the 110% return of the ad pack purchases. What we don't know is what the 10% referral commissions are and how much he takes to run his illegal pyramid scheme and how much he keeps for himself.

Even though we don't know the exact amount of referral commissions that Charles owes to the members, including the free members being paid a referral commission, based on the numbers and taking an average we can come pretty darn close. When you take this average and add in the 110% return for ad pack purchases we believe we are within + or - 10% of the total liabilities/debt Charles owes to the members.

It is also why Charles showing his back office of monies in PayPal, Payza, STP is totally meaningless without knowing his liabilities/debt he owes. Just based on a best guesstimate of what Charles owes, it is far more than what he has taken in, and it is why he has to keep getting more and more people joining and buying more and more ad packs to keep the illegal pyramid going. Even then he is going to hit critical mass. This happens when the daily amount he has to pay out exceeds what he is taking in. And every day after that it just keeps compounding and he gets deeper and deeper into debt and it can't sustain itself.

Every successful company tells its customers that they will receive their money back plus 10% about every 60 days for every product they buy, you know just like TM does. But that's not all. It gets even better. They also tell their customers that for every customer they refer to them, they will receive an additional 10% of their referrals purchases, just like TM does. And then it gets even better still when they tell a customer that they don't have to buy anything from them, but if they refer a friend to buy from them, they will give them 10% of their purchases, just like TM does.

doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out no one can pay out 10% over 100% to everyone. fact.

Originally Posted by stacy532

and also those who of the past few days have become paypal experts they know 100% without a doubt that charles never meets with them . has not will not and can not . but if he did meet that this "negative statement insert" will be the topic of discussion. they know for a fact exactly what PayPal is doing that all of his money is frozen that the paypal account is locked and dead .. you can purchase with paypal for the next 30 days if paypal felt so strongly that the monsoon is this huge risk why would they let purchases continue? ...over 4 million dollars worth of new sales in the past 4 days . oh but dont dare bring that up its means nothing....lmao

Stacy, you bemoan others for 'knowing' all about paypal and yet you can quote $4 MILLION paid in over four days! How can you possibly know this?

Originally Posted by Whip

doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out no one can pay out 10% over 100% to everyone. fact.

You can. You can pay out twice as much. Just the way you way you make the money won't be per TOS.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

How can you possibly know this?

Charles doesn't lie unless he absolutely has to. It's a lot easier to misdirect when 70-80% of what you say it truth.

Charles is doing this all wrong. Why would he need to go to the expense and trouble of setting up his own bank when all he had to do was forge an alliance with WeRe Bank? After all WeRe bank says, and I quote:

"WeRe Bank: The Free Fair and Final Private Banking System

Created under Common Law and Regulated Via Court of Record on Land 750181

Providing:

Lawful Money with Finality of Settlement"

FREE FROM ALL TAXATION

FREE FROM ALL INFLATION

FREE FROM ALL INTEREST

FREE FROM USURY

FREE FROM CENTRAL BANKS

FREE FROM ALL, EVERY AND ANY STATUTORY PLANETARY POLITICAL ROGUE REGIME DICTATE OR ORDER

RECONSTITUTED BY REPEAL OF THE 1911 1949 PARLIAMENTARY ACT AND REPEAL OF THE GOLD STANDARD

AMENDMENT ACT 26th SEPTEMBER 1931"

And the best part is he would get referral commissions for everyone who uses the bank. Think of all the "extra" money he could make. A true outside revenue source. (cough, cough)

BWAHAHA! Charles could have setup a few fake Paypal accounts and sent moneys to each one throughout, but no, he wanted to be a marketer.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Stacy, you bemoan others for 'knowing' all about paypal and yet you can quote $4 MILLION paid in over four days! How can you possibly know this?

Live screenshot from 4 or 5 days ago showed 47 million . then the latest one showing 51 million . not hard to spot a 4 million dollar change in there.. Oh but that number is meaningless so who cares right? Its what he owes thats so important... Money wise he never owes anything the service is purchased then if he has money to share he does .. Ive never been owed a bonus my entire life ... Its nice to have them.. But a bonus is extra or on top of.. So if he walked away . every account in profit is not owed a dime . every account built on referral comissions only with no purchases is not owed anything the only thing he really owes anything on refund wise is just the purchases made in the past 55 days..

Originally Posted by stacy532

the only thing he really owes anything on refund wise is just the purchases made in the past 55 days

No, no, no. Don't forget him showing up with leaders who tell people to buy, buy, buy until they reach the target amount of earnings from this legit job of clicking 10 ads per day. I don't care how stupid they are to believe this BS, he is still responsible for their misfortune.

Originally Posted by E2014T

No, no, no. Don't forget him showing up with leaders who tell people to buy, buy, buy until they reach the target amount of earnings from this legit job of clicking 10 ads per day. I don't care how stupid they are to believe this BS, he is still responsible for their misfortune.

And if a member spent 500$ and has repurchased 100% over the past 15 months and now has 3750$ worth of adpacks that member is still only really Owed 550$ max depending how you look at it ..
If they actually used 3250$ with of free advertising one could say they screwed charles ... Lol

Originally Posted by stacy532

And if a member spent 500$ and has repurchased 100% over the past 15 months and now has 3750$ worth of adpacks that member is still only really Owed 550$ max

True, but your mofo boss ain't gonna pay out that much 'cuz he already paid out the pimps more than their share.