Thread: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

Stacy, I knew you were blowing smoke when you said that if PayPal cut TM loose you were done. And now your backpedalling has begun just as I knew you would. Again I want to thank you for proving all our points with your posts. no one has shown me that paypal has cut anyone lose . show me that and ill listen . your making up fake fantasy situations and events to make things look worse..

i have seen that paypal has changed their terms of service to not include any ad revenue sites. maybe Charles has seen this and decided to not leave 37 million dollars in paypal any longer..

below is udays paypal review update so i took my mmg signature down and updated my monsoon one..

Update on PayPal Review (Reporting at 12th Jan 2016, 02:30):

Dear All,

I got some update from PayPal regarding the ongoing review and before we discuss it, just few words of background on why the current review is going on. There has been some changes recently in the terms and User Agreement policy at PayPal because of which they no longer support ad revenue sharing sites worldwide (or support conditionally) and because of which they have been reviewing our program to see whether there is any possible compliance so that we can continue using PayPal at our program. In the event if they find that we cannot continue using Paypal, they will freeze the funds in Paypal for 180 days before giving the access to us.

So, what we have been trying now is to see whether our business model is compliant with their terms or not so that we can continue the business with PayPal and have the access to our buyers' funds.

Some good news is PayPal found that they can be able to support Ad Revenue Sharing programs in Singapore with some changes made to their terms and conditions locally. So, they proposed to us that they will formulate those new terms and conditions locally so that if we match with them we can continue using PayPal at our program with newly implemented changes. In the event we decide not to be compliant with their revised terms and want to continue with our current business model and with other payment processors, the money in our PayPal will be frozen for 180 days and then will be released to MPA.

Originally Posted by stacy532

no one has shown me that paypal has cut anyone lose

I'm with you on this point, but for a different reason. I think Charles wants to cash out Paypal and do a runner if he is successful in cashing out.

Originally Posted by okosh

Payza?????.....Have you lost your mind????......Payza are bigger scammers then you and Charles combined......SMFH......

Charles must have made some deal with Patels already. Read the update, he is basically pushing Payza on members.

But yeah, it would be real cool if Charles stuck all the money into Payza and never saw a cent back.

Originally Posted by E2014T

I'm with you on this point, but for a different reason. I think Charles wants to cash out Paypal and do a runner if he is successful in cashing out.

If he was wanting to run he easily can without leaving any processors open . as they are just a bonus stated here.. He just has to make sure every purchase gets its ad credits and they are deivered..

Originally Posted by stacy532

If he was wanting to run he easily can without leaving any processors open

How would he do that, genius? He doesn't own or control STP, Payza, and Paypal. As soon as he starts withdrawing in large amounts, the accounts will be flagged and looked at by the staff.

Originally Posted by E2014T

How would he do that, genius? He doesn't own or control STP, Payza, and Paypal. As soon as he starts withdrawing in large amounts, the accounts will be flagged and looked at by the staff.

Not the point what im saying is why would he leave payza and stp open . for monsooners ? Running usually includes a server change . a heart attack . ddos attack . a hacker .. Ive not heard any of that ..

Originally Posted by stacy532

Not the point what im saying is why would he leave payza and stp open . for monsooners ? Running usually includes a server change . a heart attack . ddos attack . a hacker .. Ive not heard any of that ..

STP he can't do crap about, it's lost money. Stella and Mark will distribute it back to members.

Payza is probably going to let him cash out at some outrageous rate.

Paypal is the big question here. Depends on how good their security is.

stacy: When PayPal changed their TOS for RevShare programs they cut every RevShare program loose. That's what happens when they say they don't want your business anymore. Why else did Charles only allow 30 days to cut PayPal from being a payment processor. It certainly wasn't Charles idea to end PayPal. You can't even be honest about what happened.

Originally Posted by stacy532

Ive not heard any of that.

Have you ever heard the expression "there is more than one way to skin a cat"? Not every endgame has to be standard.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

You can't even be honest about what happened.

Our Bimbo boy is as honest as it gets in the industry, but he is also as willfully ignorant as gets. He doesn't know what happened.

Originally Posted by E2014T

Our Bimbo boy is as honest as it gets in the industry, but he is also as willfully ignorant as gets. He doesn't know what happened.

Exactly right....Why the hell would Charles tell his bitch anything??....LOL

Originally Posted by EagleOne

stacy: When PayPal changed their TOS for RevShare programs they cut every RevShare program loose. That's what happens when they say they don't want your business anymore. Why else did Charles only allow 30 days to cut PayPal from being a payment processor. It certainly wasn't Charles idea to end PayPal. You can't even be honest about what happened.

Well id think its better to stop using paypal voluntary than have the funds frozen for 180 days trying to prove to paypal that the monsoon is so much more different than its copycats.. I can without a doubt know you likely got all wet when u heard the news today. Its an opportunity to make up all kinds of negative fantasies and pull out your ponzi history books.. Lol. You cant prove what paypals view is . you can make up all you want have a good day brother i know your happy today ..

Originally Posted by okosh

Exactly right....Why the hell would Charles tell his bitch anything??....LOL

Look at me in the eye not my zipper when u say that.. Lol

Originally Posted by E2014T

Have you ever heard the expression "there is more than one way to skin a cat"? Not every endgame has to be standard.

No its not but lynndel has a list thats 20 or so items long of what to watch for and only one is being checked today . payment processor issues.. But yet there is jumping for joy on both sides with me just watching idiots on both sides over react ..

Originally Posted by stacy532

But yet there is jumping for joy on both sides with me just watching idiots on both sides over react.

So what's your version of the events? Payza is under the joint investigation by the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice, yet Charles is pushing it on people most of whom should be staying away from law enforcement as far as they can. Something forced him to do that. What happened?

Let's do a little walk down memory lane. Back on 12/16/15, Charles said (I left out his dig at me), and I quote:

"Well, Paypal’s legal and risk assessment team have fully refiewed TM, and I just had a conference with them yesterday on the phone. They have revealed that TM is doing very well from PayPal’s point of view.”

And of course I would be remiss not to quote you saying:

"if paypal will not do business with a program online neither will I .

Interesting isn't it that in less than 3 weeks, TM went from being the poster child for PayPal being legitimate to having PayPal terminate their relationship with TM. Of course since TM had an account manager assigned to it, one of two things had to happen: 1. The account manager discovered what TM was all about, or 2. PayPal discovered what TM was all about, and said nothing doing.

Now if you want to believe that PayPal just up out of the blue made this decision, then it kind of destroys the claim that TM had their very own account manager overseeing all their activities. Charles has known about it and is just now telling the members so he can put his spin on what really happened. There was a reason why PayPal changed their TOS when it came to RevShare programs.

And no it is not just one of the many things I have said about a program is in trouble when these things happen, individually, collectively or several at one time. TM has been having website issues, payment issues, server issues as evidenced by the comments from the members at MMG.

Originally Posted by E2014T

So what's your version of the events? Payza is under the joint investigation by the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice, yet Charles is pushing it on people most of whom should be staying away from law enforcement as far as they can. Something forced him to do that. What happened?

Him seeing what has happened to ventureplug traffic and mpa . all they have for a defense to paypal is why do you limit us when we are doing what traffic monsoon is aka a copycat.. It would force my hand if anyone from paypal showed me new terms that point towards an entire industry .

Originally Posted by stacy532

Him seeing what has happened to ventureplug traffic and mpa . all they have for a defense to paypal is why do you limit us when we are doing what traffic monsoon is aja a copycat.. It would force my hand if anyone from paypal showed me new terms that point towards an entire industry .

I understand about Paypal. My question is why he is pushing Payza and not STP?

Originally Posted by E2014T

I understand about Paypal. My question is why he is pushing Payza and not STP?

Stp has been having issues with us banks labeling it as a gambling site .. Also i dont know of any states where stp is allowed to do business i know its dead in my state..

Originally Posted by stacy532

Stp has been having issues with us banks labeling it as a gambling site .. Also i dont know of any states where stp is allowed to do business i know its dead in my state..

So y'all are stuck with Payza. Well, good luck to y'all. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

I wish people like Charles would get what they deserve.

People basically donated him 38 million dollars for free.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

People basically donated him 38 million dollars for free.

To him or maybe to Paypal or maybe to Payza. We shall live, we shall see.

Originally Posted by E2014T

I understand about Paypal. My question is why he is pushing Payza and not STP?

Cos Stella ans Marc Heimstra the admins of STP are bigger scammers then Payza....

lmao! the strawman has finally collapsed from all the weight of carrying the excuses. chucky's about to do a runner folks.

Originally Posted by Whip

lmao! the strawman has finally collapsed from all the weight of carrying the excuses. chucky's about to do a runner folks.

And the best part is that he has left his bitch Stacy holding the bag....LMAO.....