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10-03-2017, 01:26 PM
#9851
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I had to laugh at Charles trying to defend himself as an astute businessman in his latest rant against Imy. So if you are such an astute businessman claiming that you had nothing to fear from operating in the US since you had done nothing wrong, why are you now claiming that your new business venture, that will also be totally legal, be registered outside the US?
But let's go back to the SEC filing their 4 "CIVIL" fraud charges against you. So, you as an astute businessman, immediately hired an attorney who was well-versed in securities law, right? Wrong. Despite no criminal charges being filed against you, what did you, as an astute businessman, do? Why you immediately hired a criminal attorney Edwin S. Wall to represent you. Mr. Wall markets himself as Criminal Defense Attorney, Defense Attorney, Criminal Defense Lawyer, Defense Lawyer, DUI, Drunk Driving, Drug, Drug Charges, Controlled Substances, Assault, Battery, Rape, Murder, Homicide, Fraud, White Colllar, Tax Fraud, Murder-for-Hire, Bombs, Explosives, Arson, Federal, State, Criminal Defense Utah, Criminal Defense Wyoming, Bail. Wall also claims to be part of “Utah’s legal elite”, a “mountain states super lawyer” and “top 100 trial lawyer”.
You know the lawyer you later dissed as not being the right attorney for the job. Of course he wasn't, he is a criminal attorney not a securities attorney. Any astute businessman would know this and not hire a criminal attorney, unless of course you were scared to death that criminal charges were about to be filed. And that's exactly why you hired him because you were scared to death that criminal charges were about to be filed against you.
But here's the rub Charles. The day is coming when you are going to need a criminal attorney and Mr. Wall is not going to take you on as a client after your dissing him in public. Big mistake Charles because when you need him, he isn't going to be available. Your mistake was believing all the platitudes that were heaped upon you by your sycophant followers calling you a genius, an astute businessman, brilliant, and the most trusted admin ever. So much for your being such an astute businessman.
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10-03-2017, 02:18 PM
#9852
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
In the comments:
SCAMville says he is denouncing the ex wife next week & says she might be a prostitute hired by Immy !!??
This keeps getting better & better.
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10-03-2017, 03:44 PM
#9853
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Here you go!
MoneyMakerGroup and TalkGold owners facing wire fraud charges
Originally Posted by
nuk_1
I wonder what exactly is going on with the now-defunct MMG and TG. It's like the bro's one night decided to just shutdown both simultaneously. I know biz was declining, but to close without a whisper is weird. Don't see it being because authorities did something because everyone would have heard about it by now.
MMG and that database is worth money. Of course, buying the whole works and not just the db would also mean inheriting some members who have pre-paid for advertising, being "Lifetime Supporters" and other ranks, and are probably a little pissed right now. TG? Always thought it sucked and MMG surpassed them rather easily after starting.
Talkponzi probably has far less value.
NUK
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10-03-2017, 06:43 PM
#9854
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
Scamey Williams also had to withdraw from 401k in the spring to get a new AC at his grandma s house.
No need for all that borrowing, by me there's an AC company that uses a "revenue sharing" model. Last month I installed a new air conditioner for $5000. All I have to do is sit in the frosty air for 10 minutes a day. After two months not only do I get to keep the AC, but the company writes me a check for $5500. It's a brilliant and totally sustainable business model, I'm surprised no one thought about it first Like maybe with hamburgers.
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10-03-2017, 08:06 PM
#9855
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
ribshaw
Stacy Williams who swept the floor at some bakery had 700 add packs @ $50 each?????????......
He's claiming he had 35K in TM when it got shut down or am I misreading this??...
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10-03-2017, 11:49 PM
#9856
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
and the truth is revealed! Quite a story and I just wonder why the DOJ took so long to bring the wire fraud bit against them since nothing had changed for years and years with TG and MMG and what the two forums were all about and how they operated.
NUK
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10-04-2017, 12:53 AM
#9857
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
nuk_1
and the truth is revealed! Quite a story and I just wonder why the DOJ took so long to bring the wire fraud bit against them since nothing had changed for years and years with TG and MMG and what the two forums were all about and how they operated.
NUK
A year ago the Feds raided their house in Florida and carted off boxes of files and computers. It took that long to go through all the material they confiscated to bring the charges filed against them. This was the evidence they needed to file the charges.
So much for all the so-called "disclaimers" they had on the websites thinking they were protected from just this event happening to them. We knew that the mods were knee-deep in most of the Ponzi's being promoted pm both sites, yet they were supposed to be "neutral" in their dealings with people posting. Everyone knew there was nothing neutral about them at TalkGold. They made things up or lied to the admins just to get warnings against people or outright banning them. I can't complain about MMG as I was treated fairly there, as were others exposing the Ponzi's. Of course the Ponzi pimps didn't think so because they couldn't get me banned. And did they ever try, and try and try. One of the mods let is slip that I had more complaints against my posts than all the other threads complaints combined. At one point they were considering banning me, but since I was not violating their rules, they didn't.
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10-04-2017, 07:03 AM
#9858
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
A year ago the Feds raided their house in Florida and carted off boxes of files and computers. It took that long to go through all the material they confiscated to bring the charges filed against them. This was the evidence they needed to file the charges.
So much for all the so-called "disclaimers" they had on the websites thinking they were protected from just this event happening to them. We knew that the mods were knee-deep in most of the Ponzi's being promoted pm both sites, yet they were supposed to be "neutral" in their dealings with people posting. Everyone knew there was nothing neutral about them at TalkGold. They made things up or lied to the admins just to get warnings against people or outright banning them. I can't complain about MMG as I was treated fairly there, as were others exposing the Ponzi's. Of course the Ponzi pimps didn't think so because they couldn't get me banned. And did they ever try, and try and try. One of the mods let is slip that I had more complaints against my posts than all the other threads complaints combined. At one point they were considering banning me, but since I was not violating their rules, they didn't.
I knew about the info raid but a year seems really long to go through it. All they needed was a few instances that the Feds believed to be receiving $$$ tainted by fraud to get an indictment, and then add to it later.(maybe that is what they did?) Plus, this had been going on for over 15 years and until last year, not a peep. The write-up names processors like LR, AP, Payza, etc. but not e-gold??? Stormpay? Intgold? Loads of money run through those before all the processors named even existed. It's almost like the whole ponzi world didn't exist to them until a few years ago despite ample public evidence right in front of their faces.
Seems like from reading the BehindMLM report is that the bros agreed to forfeit the 528K proceeds from the Ft Myers house sale about the same time as when they pulled the plug on TG and MMG, almost like this is when the bros first found out they were under a sealed indictment. Talk about a real clawback on their ponzi parade and they are also out what they paid to buy MMG, which is looking like a terrible move that brought them firmly on to the DOJ radar after all these years. Wonder if DOJ will try and go after Jason of MMG and consider his sale proceeds and all the stuff during his ownership of MMG as "ill-gotten gains" from wire fraud. Never a dull moment in ponziland!
NUK
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10-04-2017, 07:26 AM
#9859
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
nuk_1
I knew about the info raid but a year seems really long to go through it.
Nah, a year is actually a lot faster than some have taken.
If you read the court transcripts of previous ponzi cases, you'll see in most cases the relevant authority has had the offender under close scrutiny for twelve to eighteen months and have used the time collecting screen shots, videos, recordings, bank records, interviewing victims and responding to complainants.
Which is why when they finally move to nail someone, they stay nailed
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10-04-2017, 08:29 AM
#9860
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
okosh
Stacy Williams who swept the floor at some bakery
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Originally Posted by
okosh
had 700 add packs @ $50 each?????????......
He's claiming he had 35K in TM when it got shut down or am I misreading this??...
That's how I read it, if true I doubt he paid retail. Certainly I don't remember him tossing those type of numbers around when he was a daily visitor. I'd bank more on Scoville tossing him some coin for his obfuscation.
Hard to believe someone involved in as many failed scams as Stacy would be $35K worth of stupid.
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10-04-2017, 11:42 AM
#9861
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
ribshaw
That's how I read it, if true I doubt he paid retail.
Now you know why ponzi profits are called nothing but "numbers on a screen"
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10-05-2017, 02:20 AM
#9862
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
So let's see, Charles has gone after Ernie, Sharon, Imy, and now he is going after his ex-wife Samra because he thinks she might have been a prostitute hired by Imy? Seriously Charles? Such an astute businessman, like yourself claims to be, should have "KNOWN" if she was a prostitute. But more importantly she is a relative of Imy's but then you also know that too. And this is the woman you said "stole your heart," was your "soul-mate," that you would "love forever," and then you up and divorced her and now you want to claim she may have been a prostitute? Trying hard for that insanity defense aren't you Charles.
You need to stop embarrassing yourself. You are going to lose what little number of believers you have left. But then I can't wait to hear the rant when the Appellant Court denies your appeal. Now that is going to be entertainment to the max to watch and read. But Samara a prostitute? I really thought you were better than this Charles.
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10-05-2017, 09:11 AM
#9863
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
So let's see, Charles has gone after Ernie, Sharon, Imy, and now he is going after his ex-wife Samra because he thinks she might have been a prostitute hired by Imy?
I believe the nomenclature Scoville is looking for is:
Urban Dictionary: honey pot
The bigger question Charles might answer is why he needed to get in bed with any of these people if not to give the illusion Monsoon was anything but a charade.?
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10-05-2017, 03:14 PM
#9864
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
So let's see, Charles has gone after Ernie, Sharon, Imy, and now he is going after his ex-wife Samra because he thinks she might have been a prostitute hired by Imy? Seriously Charles? Such an astute businessman, like yourself claims to be, should have "KNOWN" if she was a prostitute. But more importantly she is a relative of Imy's but then you also know that too. And this is the woman you said "stole your heart," was your "soul-mate," that you would "love forever," and then you up and divorced her and now you want to claim she may have been a prostitute? Trying hard for that insanity defense aren't you Charles.
You need to stop embarrassing yourself. You are going to lose what little number of believers you have left. But then I can't wait to hear the rant when the Appellant Court denies your appeal. Now that is going to be entertainment to the max to watch and read. But Samara a prostitute? I really thought you were better than this Charles.
This wife, does he mean?
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My sympathy is all with her!
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10-05-2017, 03:33 PM
#9865
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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10-05-2017, 04:07 PM
#9866
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Well, Willy Wonky never lost his nerve, so there!
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Funny how he scurried away though, isn't it??
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10-05-2017, 04:09 PM
#9867
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
uh, he panicked enough to make an ass of himself proclaiming his facebook timeline would somehow prove the scam was legit ( well it legitimately was a scam).
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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10-05-2017, 04:35 PM
#9868
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
William, the former serf for TM, Bryant, your problem was you "didn't think." Thanks for admitting it.
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10-06-2017, 07:22 AM
#9869
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
With all the pseudo psychological mumbo jumbo, rationalizing and justifying with which Charlie Scoville is filling Facebook, it's easy to overlook the fact he's accepting no responsibility for his own lack of due diligence before becoming involved with his (ex) friends.
* All of them, Aslam, James, Patel and all of the Traffic Monsoon "leaders" had a recent history of pimping ponzi schemes, so how could Scoville be in any way "surprised" at how things turned out ????
It was all hunky dory when they were raking in the money and new victims. Not a squeak from Charlie about their well known reputations
Didn't his mother ever tell him if he lay down with dogs, he would be bound to wake up with fleas ???
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10-06-2017, 01:46 PM
#9870
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Feel free to leave your own 2 cents worth on that repugnant sociopath's post:
https://www.facebook.com/TrafficMons...69549469874680
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10-06-2017, 02:56 PM
#9871
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
That thread is a great read.
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10-06-2017, 04:19 PM
#9872
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Aw. Poor little Charles. Such an innocent, played upon by naughty, bad Immy....
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How he can play the inncoent after everything beggars belief. He has more side than a rat with a gold tooth!
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10-06-2017, 04:33 PM
#9873
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
he should have been throwing people under the bus in both his SEC interviews and his hearings yet not a peep until he realized his charade isn't going to help him.
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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10-06-2017, 05:16 PM
#9874
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Charles never believed that his SEC deposition interviews would ever see the light of day. Since they became public, every post he makes is an effort to deflect what he said in those interviews so his loyal followers will believe what he is saying now. But once they do read the interviews, they realize what he is saying now doesn't match what he said in them. They also saw how he never once addressed all the things he is saying now in his court hearing. They realize if what he is saying now is true, had he presented this to the court during his hearing, he would have won. And he still has not addressed where the magical extra $5 came from or answered why he is not guilty of the four fraud charges against him. It's why he has lost a lot of followers as they woke up and saw reality not hype.
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10-09-2017, 08:01 AM
#9875
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Did anyone else know that our boy Chazza had another secret marriage in 2015?
Well, sccording to him, he did. It all went wrong, though not before the woman concerned had taken £100k from the poor little sausage.....
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AND he even manages to work in a pop at Usi-tech while telling this sad story. Nice one, Chazza!
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