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09-28-2016, 12:27 AM
#6826
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stacy532
but thats it nothing is promised ..
Yet another misleading "fact" being used as a distraction by Scoville and his posse of pimps. (That would include you, stacy)
"Guaranteed" and / or "promised" or not, Scoville has been paying it since day one.
None of this is about what Scoville "said" it's about what he "did"
That's why it's called "fraud" and "to defraud"
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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09-28-2016, 01:32 AM
#6827
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
It's so funny seeing Charles, Mama Scamville and various other "leaders" squirm and try and delete these direct questions.
I've seen this question asked a few times, and nobody has attempted to answer this simple question:
Traffic Monsoon Ponzi maths
It's amazing how many just blindly follow.
Jose Nunes is now urging people to file a lawsuit against the SEC.
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09-28-2016, 03:00 AM
#6828
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Good catch, AffiliateGuy,
Where to Find Wealth
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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09-28-2016, 03:24 AM
#6829
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
It doesn't matter how much good evidence and logic you put in front of Stacy... he just keeps on paddling up the River De Nile. (As you say, he's come this far, what choice does the poor guy have?)
Remember that I recently reminded him of how last year he himself presented detailed calculation examples on the TM LLC forum - arguing that TM would have to have at least 30% income from "other than ad packs" in order not to be a Ponzi. When presented with this reminder, along with the fact that Charles told the SEC it's 0.4%, Stacy of course ignored the point completely and come out with some other distraction argument. Sad, but then what did I expect!?
Mind you, more and more now he does seem to be going down the common Ponzi pimp avenue of "<insert Revshare here> is not a Ponzi, but anyway life / banks / governments are all Ponzis so even if it was then it's no worse". LOL
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09-28-2016, 04:04 AM
#6830
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stephenjgray
Mind you, more and more now he does seem to be going down the common Ponzi pimp avenue of "<insert Revshare here> is not a Ponzi, but anyway life / banks / governments are all Ponzis so even if it was then it's no worse". LOL
HeHe,
yeah, well, it's not like they have any new arguments.
It's all been said and done before, tested in the courts and found to be nonsense.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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09-28-2016, 06:44 AM
#6831
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stacy532
but thats it nothing is promised ..
#meaningless
Originally Posted by
stacy532
is my non guaranteed wages
Sadly once again you are wrong, once your wages have been "earned" they are in a sense guaranteed. Remember that story you told us about your days as a burger flipper and the boss that was cheating employees? The one were you sued, and had a car?
Originally Posted by
stacy532
considered debt owed by the company ?
It's considered accounts payable, same as the $600,000,000 Scoville pretended to "share" with clickaroos. If it had to be borrowed to be paid, it would be considered debt.
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09-28-2016, 06:56 AM
#6832
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stacy532
some of the folks here will enjoy this arrangement more than others . kinda funny Elena told me that far more folks on here deserve to be in prison than Charles ever will but im not here to judge them.. not my job..
What total crap "stacy." What does Elena know about most people here? She may know that I am not a young person or a very accomplished techie and that I love cats. Apart from that she knows Sweet Fanny Adams.
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09-28-2016, 08:24 AM
#6833
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
path2prosperity
... I am not a young person or a very accomplished techie and that I love cats...
That's a prison sentence , right there.
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09-28-2016, 11:58 AM
#6834
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stephenjgray
It doesn't matter how much good evidence and logic you put in front of Stacy... he just keeps on paddling up the River De Nile. (As you say, he's come this far, what choice does the poor guy have?)
Remember that I recently reminded him of how last year he himself presented detailed calculation examples on the TM LLC forum - arguing that TM would have to have at least 30% income from "other than ad packs" in order not to be a Ponzi. When presented with this reminder, along with the fact that Charles told the SEC it's 0.4%, Stacy of course ignored the point completely and come out with some other distraction argument. Sad, but then what did I expect!?
Mind you, more and more now he does seem to be going down the common Ponzi pimp avenue of "<insert Revshare here> is not a Ponzi, but anyway life / banks / governments are all Ponzis so even if it was then it's no worse". LOL
Facts are stacy's kryptonite, and that's why he avoids them.
Wonder if stacy would take a job with a company that says: You're hired. I will pay you "X dollars per hour" provided that the company makes a profit. If not, you won't get paid. BUT we need you to keep on working for us because we know we will make a profit one day; and when we do we'll pay you what we owe you? Wanna bet he would turn it down?
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09-28-2016, 12:18 PM
#6835
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Yet another misleading "fact" being used as a distraction by Scoville and his posse of pimps. (That would include you, stacy)
"Guaranteed" and / or "promised" or not, Scoville has been paying it since day one.
None of this is about what Scoville "said" it's about what he "did"
That's why it's called "fraud" and "to defraud"
Baby steps u must take
Are my wages guaranteed or promised in the future just because i earned them in the past. ?
Or is it like the monsoon we will only get paid if sales support it ?
Its ok for my job to be in debt by the millions to pay wages and expenses not yet earned but if the monsoon is in debt to pay a future not earned yet 5 bucks to its ad clickers is a ponzi ... Lol
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09-28-2016, 12:31 PM
#6836
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stacy532
Baby steps u must take
Are my wages guaranteed or promised in the future just because i earned them in the past. ?
Or is it like the monsoon we will only get paid if sales support it ?
Its ok for my job to be in debt by the millions to pay wages and expenses not yet earned but if the monsoon is in debt to pay a future not earned yet 5 bucks to its ad clickers is a ponzi ... Lol
So if your boss comes along and says the server is down or your money is stuck in the payment processor, or he was hacked, or, or, or, are you going to continue to work for him without pay for 90 days, or 180 days or whatever? And yet you'll buy all that nonsense from someone on the net that you've likely never met...fascinating!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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09-28-2016, 01:09 PM
#6837
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
More inane witterings from Charles....
TM 318 Sept 16.jpg TM 319 Sept 16.jpg TM 320 Sept 16.jpg
Like the question from Jon Walsh though!
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09-28-2016, 01:31 PM
#6838
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I like William. He's always full of good ideas, isn't he??
TM 321 Sept 16.jpg
But look how he is describing himself.....
TM 322 Sept 16.jpg
"Former"?? Do you mean - gasp! - that you are no longer involved with TM?? How shocking!
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09-28-2016, 01:36 PM
#6839
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
laidback
So if your boss comes along and says the server is down or your money is stuck in the payment processor, or he was hacked, or, or, or, are you going to continue to work for him without pay for 90 days, or 180 days or whatever? And yet you'll buy all that nonsense from someone on the net that you've likely never met...fascinating!
Ive had problems like that our payroll was delayed 3 weeks due to weather so i made damn sure i no longer get a check and now its direct deposit. Any money not coming from charles has always been due to payment processors and now the sec .
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09-28-2016, 01:49 PM
#6840
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The 5$ everyone is so worried about has not been earned yet and is not promised .. My offline job might pay me 58k this year if sales support it .. Does my job have the money to pay me that now . ?maybe ? Does not matter cause im not owed more than what i actually earn . and i have not earned all 58k yet ..im paid only as i earn it .. Folks at the monsoon are paid as they surf .. Kinda similar ..
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09-28-2016, 02:04 PM
#6841
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stacy532
The 5$ everyone is so worried about has not been earned yet and is not promised .. My offline job might pay me 58k this year if sales support it .. Does my job have the money to pay me that now . ?maybe ? Does not matter cause im not owed more than what i actually earn . and i have not earned all 58k yet ..im paid only as i earn it .. Folks at the monsoon are paid as they surf .. Kinda similar ..
But Stacey, where does the $5 come from?
In the Bakery model, the money to pay your salary comes from the PROFIT that the Bakery makes in its operation to sell wares to customers.
In the TM model, Charles told the SEC only 0.4% of sales was other than ad-packs, so there is NO PROFIT to pay anything. Rather a big difference. TOTALLY FLAWED MODEL.
And you admitted this in our debate last year... your whole argument back then was that TM was not a Ponzi.
Now that Charles has made it clear in his evidence that TM is a Ponzi, you've changed your argument to "It's ok to be Ponzi". Hahahaha.
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09-28-2016, 03:01 PM
#6842
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Facts are stacy's kryptonite, and that's why he avoids them.
Wonder if stacy would take a job with a company that says: You're hired. I will pay you "X dollars per hour" provided that the company makes a profit. If not, you won't get paid. BUT we need you to keep on working for us because we know we will make a profit one day; and when we do we'll pay you what we owe you? Wanna bet he would turn it down?
let's not forget he would have to first pay them.
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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09-28-2016, 03:04 PM
#6843
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
I like William. He's always full of good ideas, isn't he??
TM 321 Sept 16.jpg
But look how he is describing himself.....
TM 322 Sept 16.jpg
"Former"?? Do you mean - gasp! - that you are no longer involved with TM?? How shocking!
why have none of these mental midget approached real businesses like Bed, Bath, and Beyond, Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart? it's allegedly real advertising right? lmao
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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09-28-2016, 03:08 PM
#6844
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Interesting isn't it how Sunil, Sharon, Shirley, Charles, stacy, William, Darren, and the other major pimps of TM constantly profess TM is not a Ponzi, but totally ignore and won't talk about how Charles only delivered 1/10 of the great, fantastic, incredible advertising the members paid for.
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09-28-2016, 03:08 PM
#6845
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
My offline job might pay me 58k this year if sales support it .. Does my job have the money to pay me that now . ?maybe ? Does not matter cause im not owed more than what i actually earn . and i have not earned all 58k yet ..im paid only as i earn it .. Folks at the monsoon are paid as they surf .. Kinda similar ..
so you paid someone around $50,000 so you can collect $58,000?
that's the ONLY way any of your ridiculous story would equal the monsoon scam dumbass.
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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09-28-2016, 04:08 PM
#6846
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Oh no! Remember Sunil's mega video, the one that went on for 3 or 4 hours? The one that was going to be sent to the SEC?
Apparently it has a part 2 (not released yet)!
TM 323 Sept 16.jpg
Good grief. What more can he say????
EDIT: Well, actually, he can say this:-
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09-28-2016, 04:18 PM
#6847
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
And just think, all the above did not include: All of Charles' airfare for his trips, hotel costs in Dubai for a month, food, leasing houses, buying cars, utility costs, etc. for him and his son. I would have added in his marriage license, but he was too broke to pay for it himself and a friend had to pay for it, well according to Charles that is.
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09-28-2016, 04:20 PM
#6848
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
This actually makes me feel quite sad. Because I just know it's not going to work out well for Janet.
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Amongst all the idiots and ponzi pimps, there are people who have been well and truly deceived.
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09-28-2016, 05:29 PM
#6849
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Whip
so you paid someone around $50,000 so you can collect $58,000?
that's the ONLY way any of your ridiculous story would equal the monsoon scam dumbass.
Yes unfortunately ive probably paid the banks and bill collectors 51,000. So yes i do feel that is rediculous to do so.. The difference at my job is they sell only bread they dont sell everything . i wish i could spend all 51k with them but we all need other things beside bread.. At the monsoon i found it to be the only place i was getting results buying traffic so it became my go to place .. If he chooses to pay me to surf ads in exchange for me buying his services i never seen an issue with it..
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09-28-2016, 05:34 PM
#6850
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stephenjgray
But Stacey, where does the $5 come from?
In the Bakery model, the money to pay your salary comes from the PROFIT that the Bakery makes in its operation to sell wares to customers.
In the TM model, Charles told the SEC only 0.4% of sales was other than ad-packs, so there is NO PROFIT to pay anything. Rather a big difference. TOTALLY FLAWED MODEL.
And you admitted this in our debate last year... your whole argument back then was that TM was not a Ponzi.
Now that Charles has made it clear in his evidence that TM is a Ponzi, you've changed your argument to "It's ok to be Ponzi". Hahahaha.
The 5 bucks is simply a wage paid for clicking ads .. It did come from a mix of adpacks and all other services.. At first I was looking at the monsoon the same way you guys did and I was thinking to myself I sure hope that he sells enough services to pay the extra money that are owed on the ad packs or it might be a Ponzi but I was looking at it through the same sunglasses you guys wear it makes no difference which service he sells or the most of once he sells something and you receive the service that money is lost to you completely 100% gone if you want to earn any money at the monsoon you have to earn it back by clicking ads he is never going to be dumb enough to pay out more per day than what he takes in as long as you do that you always have a profit margin you're looking at it as 50 and 55 . when in reality its 50 in and it pays expenses and if other people buy services then yes u can earn money each day clicking ads in the exchange .. That extra 5 bux is a limit placed on the earning not a promise of ..
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