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09-11-2016, 08:15 PM
#6526
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Joe_Shmoe
Or was the $10,000 per day a lie?
$3.65 million a year ???
Seriously, Anita ???
C'mon now, that's nonsensical, even for a serial ponzi pimp
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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09-11-2016, 11:45 PM
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Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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09-12-2016, 12:30 AM
#6528
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Just in case anyone is unfamiliar who we mean when we talk about ( soon to be unemployed and seriously discredited ) serial Traffic Monsoon pimps Sharon James and Anita Langley
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09-12-2016, 05:27 AM
#6529
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
An article appeared yesterday in the Swiss media, linking Amin Forati to a company called Swiss Space Systems:
TARA TALKS: Dr. Amin Forati (Traffic Monsoon) - Swiss Newspaper Article
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09-12-2016, 12:37 PM
#6530
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Aw. William is all sad.
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You would have a heart of stone not to laugh.
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09-12-2016, 01:14 PM
#6531
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
Awww, the big,bad SEC doesn't want Ponzi/pyramid schemes to continue...! How anout Bryant and his ilk get together and have a pity party!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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09-12-2016, 02:43 PM
#6532
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
laidback
Awww, the big,bad SEC doesn't want Ponzi/pyramid schemes to continue...! How anout Bryant and his ilk get together and have a pity party!
They are on 9/23. Can't wait for it to happen!
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09-12-2016, 03:21 PM
#6533
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
a sworn statement is evidence that the person making the statement believes what they are saying. If people refuse to believe it is a scam or do not realise it is a scam then they believe it is not a scam! The point i am making is assuming the 350 people are not all lying then they believe it is not a scam. Whether or not it is admissible in court I would accept that they probably believe it is not a scam. If the judge deems it inadmissible then it can't be used as evidence bearing on the sentence. But as already stated it cant have any vearing on the judgement because believeing something is not a scam does not make it not a scam. They can believe whatever they want. the point is based on the evidence of the claims made about businessess investments advertising etc. and based on what money when where and to whom and what service or product was actually there the court will come to a decision. I.e. based on the facts of who had what in what accoubnts and what service they provided for it. It is was a purely civil matter this might be dispensed with but it isnt it isinfringing on criminal territiry and as such the victims dont get to decide whether or not they are victims. That is one big difference with criminal law. When a crime has happened the victims dont get to say "oh we forgive and forget" the State HAS TO intervene and HAS TO act.
Ill stand by my assertion that if the judge allows the affidavits then they could have a bearing on the sentence. But I cant see how they have any legal bearing on anything else in this case. they may be evidence of the duplicity of the perpetrators of this fraud. But I can't see how they can do anything other than have a negitive effect for the people who are calling for them. So I assume they won't even be delivered to the court.
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09-12-2016, 03:25 PM
#6534
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
Hes right though. The SEC dont want TM and their ilk to have leverage. Just like the FBI didn't want racketeers The Mafia and Crime families to have leverage over ordinary decent people.
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09-12-2016, 03:34 PM
#6535
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Jose Nunn's reminds me of someone and for a while now it's been bugging me who it is. And I've just remembered who. What's made me laugh even more is the comment he makes around 35 seconds into the video.
https://youtu.be/uHeLuPsOJJ4
I'm sorry I've tried to download it so I can upload it here but I can't find out how to, sorry.
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09-12-2016, 04:10 PM
#6536
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
im 90% shure mama scamville is a fake account, no elder decent woman would ask for "donations" and invent crap like a yard sale for few pennies. Probably is scamville himself using his mama photos on that account. you would be surprized how scummy is scamville.
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09-12-2016, 04:15 PM
#6537
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Beacon
a sworn statement is evidence that the person making the statement believes what they are saying. If people refuse to believe it is a scam or do not realise it is a scam then they believe it is not a scam! The point i am making is assuming the 350 people are not all lying then they believe it is not a scam. Whether or not it is admissible in court I would accept that they probably believe it is not a scam. If the judge deems it inadmissible then it can't be used as evidence bearing on the sentence. But as already stated it cant have any vearing on the judgement because believeing something is not a scam does not make it not a scam. They can believe whatever they want. the point is based on the evidence of the claims made about businessess investments advertising etc. and based on what money when where and to whom and what service or product was actually there the court will come to a decision. I.e. based on the facts of who had what in what accoubnts and what service they provided for it. It is was a purely civil matter this might be dispensed with but it isnt it isinfringing on criminal territiry and as such the victims dont get to decide whether or not they are victims. That is one big difference with criminal law. When a crime has happened the victims dont get to say "oh we forgive and forget" the State HAS TO intervene and HAS TO act.
Ill stand by my assertion that if the judge allows the affidavits then they could have a bearing on the sentence. But I cant see how they have any legal bearing on anything else in this case. they may be evidence of the duplicity of the perpetrators of this fraud. But I can't see how they can do anything other than have a negitive effect for the people who are calling for them. So I assume they won't even be delivered to the court.
Victims of ponzi scams always belive is not a scam, and no document is valid in USA(exccept a passport) if is not made or legalized in USA, to legalize a document in USA would take +3mounths + oficial goverment stamps from origin countrie, its a complicated process, at least is how things works in EU wich most likely is similar to USA.
Do you think a Judge can take in consideration affidavits from pakistan,india or some other shithole those ponzi rats come from?
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09-12-2016, 05:31 PM
#6538
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Scamville
Victims of ponzi scams always belive is not a scam,
So what?
and no document is valid in USA(exccept a passport) if is not made or legalized in USA,
So the Bible isn't valid there?
Im not great on US Law but :
28 U.S. Code § 1746 - Unsworn declarations under penalty of per*jury
(1) If executed without the United States: “I declare (or certify, verify, or state) under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on (date).
(Signature)”.
http://uscode.house.gov/statviewer.h...e=90&page=2534
to legalize a document in USA would take +3mounths + oficial goverment stamps from origin countrie, its a complicated process, at least is how things works in EU wich most likely is similar to USA.
In the EU country I am in all that is required is it be witnessed by a commissioner for oaths and that a fee ( i think it is about ten Euro) is paid and it is submitted in evidence. the witnessing/attestation is just to establish that the person making the statement is identified are really being them.
But it isnt a huge issue to me. Ill leave it for the Judge to determine.
Do you think a Judge can take in consideration affidavits from pakistan,india or some other shithole those ponzi rats come from?
Yes I do! I think the judge could recognise it and is not prevented from so doing. I also dont think it is fair to call Asian countries shitholes.
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09-12-2016, 06:53 PM
#6539
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Is anyone else getting the message: "This page can’t be displayed" when trying to access the EMS forum? I have been getting it all day.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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09-12-2016, 07:22 PM
#6540
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Is anyone else getting the message: "This page can’t be displayed" when trying to access the EMS forum? I have been getting it all day.
Yes, I'm getting a "Cannot connect to the website" error message...
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09-12-2016, 08:09 PM
#6541
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
Jose Nunn's reminds me of someone and for a while now it's been bugging me who it is. And I've just remembered who. What's made me laugh even more is the comment he makes around 35 seconds into the video.
https://youtu.be/uHeLuPsOJJ4
I'm sorry I've tried to download it so I can upload it here but I can't find out how to, sorry.
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09-13-2016, 01:34 AM
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Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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09-13-2016, 02:20 AM
#6543
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Beacon
I also dont think it is fair to call Asian countries shitholes.
Agreed 100%
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09-13-2016, 07:17 AM
#6544
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
Thanks yet again LRM.
Hello peeps
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09-13-2016, 07:34 AM
#6545
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Beacon
Ill stand by my assertion that if the judge allows the affidavits then they could have a bearing on the sentence. But I cant see how they have any legal bearing on anything else in this case. they may be evidence of the duplicity of the perpetrators of this fraud. But I can't see how they can do anything other than have a negitive effect for the people who are calling for them. So I assume they won't even be delivered to the court.
The thing is, these are CIVIL proceedings, so there won't be a "sentence"
The SEC is asking for civil money penalties, asset seizure and disgorgement of "ill gotten gains" plus interest, but has not asked for a custodial sentence.
That will come later during the criminal proceedings which are sure to follow.
So, the subpoenas will make absolutely no difference to the SEC civil case
There's simply no room to maneuver based on victims' subpoenas
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09-13-2016, 09:25 AM
#6546
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Little doubt in my mind there are some true victims in the Traffic Monsoon Ponzi scam. If no one believed Monsoon was real, there would have been no scam. Separating victims from pimps and the greedy but slow a bit more of a chore.
The problem with these testimonials other than calling the purchase of ads an "opportunity" is the SEC has already completed its heavy lifting. They interviewed Scoville and more importantly members of TM prior to the asset freeze or court filings. The math is there for everyone to see and no affiliate has the hard data disprove it.
40. Scoville also omits to disclose to investors that the shared profit is periodically supplemented by payments from the reserve fund at Scoville’s discretion and is, therefore, not truly revenue sharing.
43. As of May 16, 2016, Traffic Monsoon had sold 15,225,689 AdPacks. For each such AdPack, however, it must deliver 1,000 visitors, amounting to 15 billion visitors total. As of July 24, 2016, however, the Traffic Monsoon website states that the company had “delivered 1,618,996,340 visitors to our member’s [sic] websites to date.” This is only about a tenth of what would be required by Scoville’s own program.
59. Traffic Monsoon investors are participating in its program not because they are interested in its advertising services, but because they are interested in the profit sharing opportunity.
61. Traffic Monsoon reports that it has sold approximately 14 million AdPacks to about 162,000 investors. This equates to an average of 86.4 AdPacks per investor. Many investors, however, own tens of thousands of dollars’ worth of AdPacks. Hundreds of investors have deposited more than $100,000 each into the Traffic Monsoon account at PayPal.
63. After the PayPal freeze, Scoville began using the JPMorgan Chase account more extensively for investor deposits. From March through June 2016, the information from this
account shows that the largest single investment was $200,000, which would represent 4,000 AdPacks.
64. Most investors have been allowing their funds to accumulate in their Traffic Monsoon accounts and are using these account balances to purchase additional AdPacks.
65.The majority of the traffic to Traffic Monsoon member sites now comes from inside Traffic Monsoon, meaning that members are simply clicking on other members’ ads.
https://www.sec.gov/litigation/compl.../comp23604.pdf
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09-13-2016, 11:58 AM
#6547
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
Jose Nunn's reminds me of someone and for a while now it's been bugging me who it is. And I've just remembered who. What's made me laugh even more is the comment he makes around 35 seconds into the video.
https://youtu.be/uHeLuPsOJJ4
I'm sorry I've tried to download it so I can upload it here but I can't find out how to, sorry.
To show a Youtube video or any video link in your post, just grab the URL of the video, then click the little video icon (hover your mouse over and it will say 'Insert Video') and then paste the video URL in there and voila
Jack's your uncle.
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09-13-2016, 12:44 PM
#6548
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Charles' attorney clearly doesn't know what a Ponzi is either...
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09-13-2016, 12:48 PM
#6549
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Sharon should be fairly pissed off by the time she leaves Utah...
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09-13-2016, 01:14 PM
#6550
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
JackTolerance
To show a Youtube video or any video link in your post, just grab the URL of the video, then click the little video icon (hover your mouse over and it will say 'Insert Video') and then paste the video URL in there and voila
Jack's your uncle.
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Thanks "Uncle Jack"
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