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08-08-2016, 03:54 AM
#5251
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
So he sends fund to his bank marked "for Payza." Sending large sums of money to a payment processor which is under investigation by US Government.
Isn't that the action of a half baked idiot?
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08-08-2016, 09:07 AM
#5252
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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08-08-2016, 09:16 AM
#5253
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Abby Tian
You did what you had to do , Charles ! You trying to protect TM funds, you did nothing wrong ! You are the only owner in TM, you can use your personal checking account for your business in USA ! Period ! TM team, support Charles and TM all the way !
Not only didn't Charles not protect his members, he opened their funds up to legal challenges from anyone he might have done wrong in his past 16 scams or his bent life in general. He certainly made the receiver's case that much easier, can we get a big hearty thanks Chucko.
Effects of Piercing the Corporate Veil
If a court pierces a company's corporate veil, the owners, shareholders, or members of a corporation or LLC can be held personally liable for corporate debts. This means creditors can go after the owners' home, bank account, investments, and other assets to satisfy the corporate debt. But courts will impose personal liability only on those individuals who are responsible for the corporation or LLC's wrongful or fraudulent actions; they won't hold innocent parties personally liable for company debts. https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...eil-33006.html
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Not exactly applicable, since Substance over Form largely applies in tax law. However, a similar principle holds that you can't open a brothel or gambling establishment (give those services away for free) and skirt the intent of the law by claiming you are selling food or some other innocuous product.
A lot of pimps and Charles himself are now claiming that people were "just buying advertising" so this can't be an investment. The problem with that argument is prior to the SEC smackdown everyone was running around calling themselves "business owners" or "interweb entreprenuerz" while introducing Traffic Monsoon. Never mind all the videos showing how much money was being made. To suddenly claim they were just buying ads falls a little short in the substance department.
The sham transaction embodies two separate theories:
A sham in fact -- a fictional transaction that never actually occurred.
A sham in substance -- a transaction that occurred but which lacked the substance of the form allegedly represented.
FAQ: Substance, Not Form, Important to IRS and the Courts
From the very beginning Monsson was like a scratch off ticket where once the first square was revealed you should have known you had a loser. Don't compound the mistake by doubling down in the pimps' next scams, letter writing campaigns, specious arguments that have no basis in law, and whatever you do don't waste more money on Scoville's legal defense.
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08-08-2016, 09:35 AM
#5254
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Don't add to your losses with folly like this. Remember Nunes was too much of a dumbass to see this was a Ponzi, or he's complicit. There is no third option.
Jose Nunes Doubling down Dumbass.JPG
Scoville is going to prison people, the receiver will try to get some of your money back. They will be coming for people like Nunes ill gotten gains, that much is certain.
we have a business here too.JPG
Refund and Recovery Scams
Scam artists buy and sell "sucker lists" with the names of people who already have lost money to fraudulent promotions. These crooks may call you promising to recover the money you lost or the prize or merchandise you never received — for a fee in advance. That's against the law. Under the Telemarketing Sales Rule, they cannot ask for — or accept — payment until seven business days after they deliver the money or other item they recovered to you.
https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/article...recovery-scams
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08-08-2016, 10:54 AM
#5255
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
So now the trusted leaders are telling everyone to support Charles by donating...... 😲 take a look at trafficmonsoon . Guru I've only read the first page , I'm still laughing..... why would people want to give away more money, have they not lost enough already ..... looked at icann.org no names it's private registered... 😲
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08-08-2016, 11:07 AM
#5256
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Yep,
happens every time one of these "next-big-thing" HYIP ponzi frauds gets busted and invariably ends up with the organizer / s absconding with the proceeds.
The only thing certain is, no good will come out of donating
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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08-08-2016, 11:24 AM
#5257
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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08-08-2016, 11:50 AM
#5258
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Let me get this right !
After charles has been caught stealing money these people now want you to loan him money to defend his actions.
Is this for real ?
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08-08-2016, 12:03 PM
#5259
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
ianh
Let me get this right !
After charles has been caught stealing money these people now want you to loan him money to defend his actions.
Is this for real ?
Very real.
As I said, it happens every time
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08-08-2016, 12:08 PM
#5260
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Very real.
As I said, it happens every time
Well at least they are being a little honest this time by telling you it's high risk and you probably won't get the loan repaid to you.
Only taken 2 years to get a bit of honesty
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08-08-2016, 12:15 PM
#5261
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
These con men will stop at nothing to try to "appear" legit...like mentioning if you don't fill out the form, you won't be able to deduct your contribution. Since I'm pretty sure there isn't a section of the IRS code that would cover a legal defense fund for an individual as deductible, and even if there were, it takes about 6 months to set up an organization and register it to get the tax-exempt number you'll need to qualify for the deduction, then this is just trying to scam people into providing their information so that they can be followed up with to be presented with MORE SCAM opportunities.
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08-08-2016, 12:21 PM
#5262
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I would love for the SEC to look up that routing number and see who and where the donations are actually going to.
Perhaps they could add to the fraud charges.
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08-08-2016, 12:24 PM
#5263
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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08-08-2016, 12:32 PM
#5264
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
LOL, SSDD! (same shyte different day) Andy Bowdoin in ASD set up a donation site to help with legal expenses.
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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08-08-2016, 12:40 PM
#5265
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Remember the loudmouth ex car salesman Bob Guenther and the ASD Members Business Association Trust set up to defend Bowdoin ??? No one ever did find out what happened to the donated money
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08-08-2016, 12:44 PM
#5266
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Then there was Robert Craddock and his ZTeamBiz soliciting donations to defend Zeek Rewards and fight the big, bad SEC
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08-08-2016, 01:06 PM
#5267
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Then there was Robert Craddock and his ZTeamBiz soliciting donations to defend Zeek Rewards and fight the big, bad SEC
Not much new under the scammer sun!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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08-08-2016, 01:32 PM
#5268
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Any ideas anyone? Same site, different address.
https://trafficmonsoon.plus/home
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08-08-2016, 01:36 PM
#5269
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
One would think that Imy, Sharon James, Sunil, I.M. Bigg, Frank Calabro, Jr., and the other major pimps would have immediately given Charles the money for his attorney. Interesting isn't it that they haven't. If I were a TM member, I would be asking why.
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08-08-2016, 01:43 PM
#5270
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Apologies if someone has already posted this.....but things are moving so fast, I can hardly keep up.
Take it away, Chazza!
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08-08-2016, 01:47 PM
#5271
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
HARRISON
saltlake@sec.gov
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08-08-2016, 02:08 PM
#5272
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
One would think that Imy, Sharon James, Sunil, I.M. Bigg, Frank Calabro, Jr., and the other major pimps would have immediately given Charles the money for his attorney. Interesting isn't it that they haven't. If I were a TM member, I would be asking why.
They have banked millions what's a few hundred grand to them ..pocket money yeah the leaders to save tm for their best buddy Charles .... lol I think not 😃
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08-08-2016, 02:13 PM
#5273
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
Apologies if someone has already posted this.....but things are moving so fast, I can hardly keep up.
Take it away, Chazza!
TM 170 Aug 16.jpg
What about the 15 plus other companies he started , how did they all end.... how much money did they owe people ....wonder if he would answer that
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08-08-2016, 02:36 PM
#5274
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
HARRISON
Don't know anymore than this.
Website: trafficmonsoon.plus
Title: Apache2 Debian Default Page: It works
Domain Age: 1 Years, 151 Days
Website Speed: Very Fast
Organisation: Sugar Mill, LLC
Owner Address: c/o Donuts Inc., 10500 NE 8th Street, Suite 350
Owner Country : United States [United States]
Website Location : Finland [Finland]
Probable website origin :-
78%; [United States] United States
7%; [Finland] Finland
7%; [Netherlands] Netherlands
7%; [Germany] Germany
Analysis Details:-
Although this website appears to be based in Finland there are other countries involved and you should review this information carefully and decide if it is as you expect.Although being a new website, does not make it un-trustworthy, as with any new business you should be extra vigilant and do your own research before placing an order or making an investment.
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08-08-2016, 02:38 PM
#5275
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Not So Lucky
What about the 15 plus other companies he started , how did they all end.... how much money did they owe people ....wonder if he would answer that
He may get questioned on the other scams as they were mentioned in interview documents posted.
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