Thread: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

I actually think he believes he can "talk" his way out of this like he has talked his way out of every failed Ponzi program he has run. He is a pathological lair and he believes what he is saying is the truth and not a lie. Otherwise he would be keeping his mouth shut instead of posting all of his silly updates. He can't keep his mouth shut, well until he gets an attorney, but the damage has already been done. You know the judge, prosecution team and probably the receiver are fully aware of his updates and have copies of them already.

I also firmly believe that he doesn't think he is in as much trouble as he is and what is still to come. His mouth has always worked for him in the past, and as I said he thinks it will work for him in this case as well. Delusional, but I think I have him pegged right. All you have to do is look at the way the members are supporting him and saying how honest and great guy he is, and he has just stolen their money and they don't believe it. He truly believes he can do the same thing with the SEC. It is why he was so complimentary in his remarks about them...how wonderful they are, how easy it is to work with them, they get it as to all his good intentions for starting TM, and his only concern is that he be able to pay his members what they are owed as fast as possible. Now if that were true, he would not have delayed his hearing from August 5 to September 23. This is the disconnect I am talking about.

When the members finally wake up and come out from under his and the major promoters spell, this is going to get ugly and get ugly fast. Remember, there were already a group of people who got out and were not afraid to tell it like it is to the other members; and some of them were quite vitriol in their words for him and unforgiving.

I am also expecting to see some waking up over the next couple of weeks, and then you are going to see a large number of people turning on each other. A couple of incidents have already happened, but they are going to grow. This is when the bloom will finally come off the rose and the tide will turn against him and the promoters. I have seen an under swell of malcontent brewing for some time now, and it is about to come to the surface. Stay tuned because this is going to be one bumpy ride.

I agree. The TM Ponzi Pimps are still in shock and denial. Once anger hits them, the ugly show will begin...

Originally Posted by okosh

If Charles had learned from his or others mistakes he wouldn't have run a world wide ponzi scheme under his real name from within the USA....

I didn't say he'd worked things out perfectly.

He must have "thought" he had the important points covered.

The sort of things ponzi players said Bowdoin and Burks should have done

I.O.W. Stay away from the USA as much as possible, don't get caught with all the proceeds in your possession and make sure you get as much cash in your hot little hands as possible somewhere the SEC can't get it

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Sadly stacy is still in denial. This was his latest post, and I quote:

"as was every allegation made beyond what you and the sec allege the monsoon of wrong doing... not one stitch of your made up inconsistencies are in the court records... so 99.6% of your accusations are bogus and only the 0.4% that the sec claims align with a few of your Wikipedia copy and paste fest.. goes to show how meaningless all that crap was .. thank you for admitting that 99.6% of your stuff was propaganda and 0.4% is still yet to be proven over the next 2 years in a real court of law..."

I know you are mad at all of us "haters" with what has happened, but you should be mad at Charles for lying to you all these years and tossing you under the bus after your years of defending him and TM. I don't hate you, dislike you, angry at you or wish you any ill-will. I, and many others here, were only trying to help you, but we can only help those who want to be helped, and you clearly didn't but we still tried.

It is my sincere desire that you have truly learned from this and the next time you listen because despite all you say about any of us, we do know what we are talking about.

awe old buddy you know your my hero .. anyone who can be a Christian and a ponzi policeman at the same time and not lose his morals by not judging or labeling his fellow brothers and sisters and still performing religious duties is a hero in my book.. its just hard for me to show it..

Originally Posted by Gina

I kinda feel bad for Stacy. (I know) But I do.

lol Gina, surprisingly enough, I'm with you on that one to. He may have been deluded, but he was always politely deluded!

i see no reason to act nasty or degrade any of you fine folks we are all brothers and sisters in the number one judges eyes even though we may not all agree with everything all the time that's no reason to throw stones at each other..

Oh look,

we're being given a morality and ethics lecture by a (discredited) serial ponzi pimp

If you don't mind, stacy, I'll ignore your pontificating and go back to reading the SEC vs Traffic Monsoon complaint

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Oh look,

we're being given a morality and ethics lecture by a (discredited) serial ponzi pimp

If you don't mind, stacy, I'll ignore your pontificating and go back to reading the SEC vs Traffic Monsoon complaint

like they always say the things you need to hear the most usually come from the places you least want to hear it from...

Which "they" ???

Ponzi pimps who read "The Secret" ???

they always saying ponzi this and ponzi that at the real scam forum see a they..

Err, that would be because the forum was setup to warn people against ponzis, among other fraudulent opportunities

It's why the word "ponzi" appears so many times and why you won't find the words "knitting" or "crotcheting" used as often

Now, back to reading how Charlie Scoville got caught red handed running a 207 million dollar word that rhymes with Fonzie

Better ???

Charles, Jose, Stacy, Sharon and all the other major players are obviously not familiar with the saying "WHEN YOU ARE IN A HOLE, STOP DIGGING".

Originally Posted by Bestbud

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Aw, so Chazza is a good guy who just wanted to test out that Paypal would release the funds before he let anyone else know? And just to be super, super sure, he tested it out 255 times? What a hero!

Chazza, you do realise that you have now put into writing, in the public domain, that you withdrew funds into your personal account not once or twice, but on 255 occasions? But thank you for letting people - including those at the SEC - know. I'm sure this information will come in very handy!

HeHe,

read the complaint.

They know everything, right down to the colour of Charlies' underpants

Bank Secrecy Act, Paypal, Chase Bank, Suspicious Activity Reports

Bloomberg BNA is reporting:



You can read the original article here at bna.com

REUTERS is reporting:



You can read the original article here at REUTERS.com

IMO, all the leaders who are posting that they "still believe" in Traffic Monsoon are merely in CYA mode and writing the best bull$hit they can come up with.

I'll say it again, if you are a leader in NWM, you know it's about all recruiting and lying to newbies.

The leaders are setting themselves up to claim ignorance in case the law comes a knocking. Or, it is to keep their teams from abandoning them.

They'll eventually claim they were victims too (hence their latest posts in full support of Charles), and then go on to announce they've found a new one that is definitely not a scam as they learned a lot from the last one.

In fact, success in past scams is what makes you a top leader in all MLM/NWM and most will tout that as experience.

You should also be warned that there are leaders who use a different exit strategy. Recently a One Coin ponzi pimp, Angelina Lazar, turned on OC and proclaimed it a scam. This gave the illusion that she was protecting her downline once she discovered the truth. She is currently promoting other Ponzis such as Future Net.

Leader = Big time scammer

here are links to
SEC v Traffic Monsoon ( Traffic Monsoon Court Documents and Exhibits)
read these to get the full picture

Civil Cover Sheet https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6f...ew?usp=sharing
TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER AND ORDER FREEZING ASSETS https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6f...ew?usp=sharing
Exhibit B https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6f...ew?usp=sharing
TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER AND ORDER ACCELERATING DISCOVERY https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6f...ew?usp=sharing
ORDER APPOINTING RECEIVER, FREEZING ASSETS, AND OTHER ANCILLARY RELIEF https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6f...ew?usp=sharing
Civil Cover Sheet https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6f...ew?usp=sharing
Order Appointing Receiver https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6f...ew?usp=sharing
Exhibit A https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6f...ew?usp=sharing
Complaint https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6f...ew?usp=sharing

Originally Posted by littleroundman

You can read the original article here at REUTERS.com

RealScam first reported on Traffic Monsoon May 2015. Just sayin...

Originally Posted by laidback

Hey, ribby, seems like a losing proposition trying to figure out what is going on in his obviously malfunctioning cranium!

Originally Posted by Bestbud

I don't think Charles has learned from his or others' mistakes at all or TM (and all of his other illegal programs) would have never happened.

The mind or lack there of in these folks always makes me curious. I think back to things I did as a kid and wonder why I thought I would get away with that, even if sometimes I did. As an adult, it seems like a different part of a "normal" brain develops where people are better able to anticipate consequences. As a matter of science I wonder if something in these pimps brains never fully developed, or they are simply dickwads?

Something like this...

For those people with FAS/E the middle step, reflection, is faulty, works only sporadically, or is missing altogether. Reflection, something we do in a split second, is a very complicated function comprised of many inter-related thought processes, any one of which, if faulty, will radically alter the way one perceives relationships. Good cause and effect reasoning is also essential to motivation to do just about anything. This is particularly a problem in terms of motivating the individual to long-term changes, a primary reason why both rewards and sanctions, when used, must be immediate and why affected persons seem unable to delay gratification or work towards long-term goals.

NEUROBEHAVIOUR IN ADOLESCENTS AND ADULTS

Obviously the collective "they" are able to pull the same scam over and over and blow victims off with the same excuses so maybe the later.

Originally Posted by okosh

If Charles had learned from his or others mistakes he wouldn't have run a world wide ponzi scheme under his real name from within the USA....

I don't know why a promoter would use anything other than a nom de plume. Some people seem all to eager to send money anywhere there is a implausible story attached.

Two excellent examples of this:

http://www.realscam.com/f8/mybinaryp...ays-real-4262/
http://www.realscam.com/f9/profitabl...ough-yet-1795/


The pimps have the obvious problem of having to show their faces, although other than clawbacks and fines they hardly ever get punished. Their "lists" never seem to mind they they got another one wrong.

Originally Posted by stacy532

they always saying ponzi this and ponzi that at the real scam forum see a they..

Problem is Stacy, by the time we reach this point the damage has been done. Anyone that used your method of analysis and invested in the Bank of Scoville needs mittens and a scarf.

Originally Posted by stacy532

"as was every allegation made beyond what you and the sec allege the monsoon of wrong doing... not one stitch of your made up inconsistencies are in the court records... so 99.6% of your accusations are bogus and only the 0.4% that the sec claims align with a few of your Wikipedia copy and paste fest.. goes to show how meaningless all that crap was .. thank you for admitting that 99.6% of your stuff was propaganda and 0.4% is still yet to be proven over the next 2 years in a real court of law..."

99.6% bogus? That number if accurate means our .4% half truths warned people away from an alleged $200,000,000 Ponzi, oh I know 2 years in a real court of law till the fist bumping should start.

Scoville, you, and the professional con artists that promote and defend this dreck have ruined people's lives. No doubt there will be a suicide or two, a few divorces, and a bankruptcy or three. Some of that would have happened anyway, this helped how? Anyone that listened to our "propaganda" on Monsoon is probably breathing a sigh of relief about now, which is more than many hyperventilaters listening to your "truths" can do.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

lol Gina, surprisingly enough, I'm with you on that one to. He may have been deluded, but he was always politely deluded!

passive aggressive isn't 'politeness'.

not once, shockingly, in all the excuses and feel good mumbo jumbo, has one of these scammers stated who the outside advertisers providing revenue without the expectation of a return are that make this not a ponzi.