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04-05-2016, 10:53 AM
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Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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Few people ever leave? Yeah, the most desperate people do tend to hang on until the inevitable collapse or until the Feds step in to shut the program down.
Hackers and key word loggers are going to have a field day stealing accounts and identities since there's no encrypted password protection....
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04-05-2016, 01:16 PM
#3352
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
When you overdo your motivated thinking to the point of being unrealistic....
PayPal funds are frozen, Payza and STP payments are barely trickling in and out...
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04-05-2016, 02:12 PM
#3353
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
When you overdo your motivated thinking to the point of being unrealistic....
PayPal funds are frozen, Payza and STP payments are barely trickling in and out...
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Bigg guy's demise.
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04-05-2016, 02:30 PM
#3354
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Wow according to Stacy at MMG traffic monsoon is growing FASTER THAN EVER!
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04-05-2016, 03:28 PM
#3355
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fendaril
Wow according to Stacy at MMG traffic monsoon is growing FASTER THAN EVER!
That nickel & dime con artist / liar? If Stacy Williams said water was wet and snow cold...I would have to triple check.
"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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04-06-2016, 01:04 AM
#3356
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The resident visa that Charles sent stacy claiming to be his Dubai resident visa was one of the poorest photo shop jobs I have seen in a long time. I can't believe that Charles tried to pass this off as real. I know it was Charles because stacy told me Charles had sent it to him and stacy didn't even ask for it.
I have to be in LA next week and will drop by the UAE Embassy and see what they have to say about it. Just to play safe, I also sent a request to the Embassy in Washington, D.C. to confirm it is a valid resident visa. Stay tuned, as this is going to get good.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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04-06-2016, 07:34 AM
#3357
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
The resident visa that Charles sent stacy claiming to be his Dubai resident visa was one of the poorest photo shop jobs I have seen in a long time. I can't believe that Charles tried to pass this off as real. I know it was Charles because stacy told me Charles had sent it to him and stacy didn't even ask for it.
I have to be in LA next week and will drop by the UAE Embassy and see what they have to say about it. Just to play safe, I also sent a request to the Embassy in Washington, D.C. to confirm it is a valid resident visa. Stay tuned, as this is going to get good.
If you have his date of birth you can check it here.... https://www.ednrd.ae/portal/pls/port...y_VisaValidity
Seems his real name is David Charles Schoville and not Charles David Schoville.....That's what filling that form says....
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04-06-2016, 08:21 AM
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Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
okosh
His most-used FaceBook page does not list a birthdate. On this FaceBook page, he lists August 15, 1989. Using that birth date, I get "unable to process your request with given details" whether I use "Charles" or "David" as first name.
SD
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04-06-2016, 08:57 AM
#3359
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
shipdit
His
most-used FaceBook page does not list a birthdate. On
this FaceBook page, he lists August 15, 1989. Using that birth date, I get "unable to process your request with given details" whether I use "Charles" or "David" as first name.
SD
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you must have the wrong date. As pointed out up thread.....he just started High school while simultaneously attending 2 different colleges in 2 different countries apparently. lmao!
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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04-06-2016, 01:50 PM
#3360
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
When you're about to eat your own words because TM is a ticking time bomb getting much closer to the Feds arresting Charles and shutting it down...
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04-06-2016, 02:39 PM
#3361
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Whip
you must have the wrong date. As pointed out up thread.....he just started High school while simultaneously attending 2 different colleges in 2 different countries apparently. lmao!
I just checked the MMG thread and notice that user rorobobo has gotten the online form to return "the residence is valid until 06-02-2019" by entering a birthdate of 04-01-1980.
I'd say that it would seem to be a stretch to find a "charles" with that birthdate who would lend his document for someone else to tinker with.
SD
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04-06-2016, 03:21 PM
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Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Danny boy wants everyone to remain ethical....
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04-06-2016, 03:54 PM
#3363
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
so he's going to return everyone's money he stole?
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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04-06-2016, 03:55 PM
#3364
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
This written by Stacy on mmg.
everytime someone brings up something to try and show how much of a liar Charles is it gets proven otherwise .. his previous websites information is and has always been out there on his personal site. trying to use well known information against his seems silly to me.. he never hides it or hides his name or where he is.. or from.......
so if everyone was wrong about the visa being faked , does that also mean they are wrong about the tm world bank accusations ? or maybe they are mistaken about what they feel the monsoon is doing wrong .. ? yes i believe the credibility of the accusers is crumbling fast....lol........
I know we have to dig up information to help folks understand why programs are scams. We do our best, but here is what frustrates me. People get wrapped up in the numbers, the product, the owners, Paypal; and the scammers twist things and can make it all look very plausible.
At the end of the day, none of the info really matters. This is why we need to have that defining line. It's where we need to be. No recruitment-based opps, endless chain recruitment schemes, MLM, rev share programs, direct sales, or whatever you want to call them.
When approached, I don't care what it is, or how much money I supposedly can make. I DO NOT NEED TO KNOW and you don't either. All you need to know is if you can recruit endlessly and make gobs of money.
History has proven time and time again that MLM is all a big lie. You either don't make the huge amount of money that was dangled in front of you - the reason you were lured in to begin with. (See how that works) Or people do make money, but not following the law.
The end.
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04-06-2016, 04:09 PM
#3365
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Char
This written by Stacy on mmg.
I know we have to dig up information to help folks understand why programs are scams. We do our best, but here is what frustrates me. People get wrapped up in the numbers, the product, the owners, Paypal; and the scammers twist things and can make it all look very plausible.
At the end of the day, none of the info really matters. This is why we need to have that defining line. It's where we need to be. No recruitment-based opps, endless chain recruitment schemes, MLM, rev share programs, direct sales, or whatever you want to call them.
When approached, I don't care what it is, or how much money I supposedly can make. I DO NOT NEED TO KNOW and you don't either. All you need to know is if you can recruit endlessly and make gobs of money.
History has proven time and time again that MLM is all a big lie. You either don't make the huge amount of money that was dangled in front of you - the reason you were lured in to begin with. (See how that works) Or people do make money, but not following the law.
The end.
Who cares? Its going to collapse under its own wait eventually. It only pays for new money.
Your getting 2 tied up in it on the emotional side.
Its the same handful who hang out on MMG pimping, thats just there thing. They know its a scam but want to get as much $ out as possible.
Wrong about TM bank would be that they didnt say there was a bank. They did.
Stacy is wind bag fool who has admitted makes little off these schemes. I would imagine it works out to about 10 cents an hour with all his effort.
It wouldnt surprise me if he was in special ed class in high school. He looks off.
"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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04-06-2016, 04:09 PM
#3366
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
When you're about to eat your own words because TM is a ticking time bomb getting much closer to the Feds arresting Charles and shutting it down...
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Ah, but let's be fair....He was right about something......it IS a "ticking time bomb" that is "about to explode"!!
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04-06-2016, 04:24 PM
#3367
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
When he shows his true colors unintentionally...
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04-06-2016, 05:26 PM
#3368
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
Who cares? Its going to collapse under its own wait eventually. It only pays for new money.
Your getting 2 tied up in it on the emotional side.
Its the same handful who hang out on MMG pimping, thats just there thing. They know its a scam but want to get as much $ out as possible.
Wrong about TM bank would be that they didnt say there was a bank. They did.
Stacy is wind bag fool who has admitted makes little off these schemes. I would imagine it works out to about 10 cents an hour with all his effort.
It wouldnt surprise me if he was in special ed class in high school. He looks off.
I care that these have been allowed to continue and harm millions of people, and no doubt SBM cared about her friend. Respectfully, my post was about thinking bigger. This is about all of them, and they are all the same in the end.
Your post is exactly how I don't wish people to think. It's not just MMG. It's every single endless chain network marketer out there.
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04-06-2016, 05:48 PM
#3369
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Char
I care that these have been allowed to continue and harm millions of people, and no doubt SBM cared about her friend. Respectfully, my post was about thinking bigger. This is about all of them, and they are all the same in the end.
Your post is exactly how I don't wish people to think. It's not just MMG. It's every single endless chain network marketer out there.
Your very nice and have compassion but your not being realistic.
Your think bigger. OK. Then what? The pimps dont care. Thats just the way it is.
The best you can do is keep a % out of the scams and make the uninformed aware its a scam. Let the authorities know the latest scumbaggery.
It works over time. Millions of $ saved. Thousands of potential suckers stay out of the scams.
Tough to stay at it day after day when you dont keep a level of separation.
"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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04-06-2016, 08:23 PM
#3370
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Char
I know we have to dig up information to help folks understand why programs are scams. We do our best, but here is what frustrates me. People get wrapped up in the numbers, the product, the owners, Paypal; and the scammers twist things and can make it all look very plausible.
I go through several modes from concern to apathy as these scams progress. Apathy speaking here:
"If people read what we write, read what the likes of a Stacy has written and still send money they are a lost cause."
That's not to say I'm not concerned or mix some feeling bad they lost money with the glee I feel when these scams implode.
The idiots aside (and I mean that in the best possible way) there are people that are fairly certain these things are scams and we help to confirm their suspicion. Others aren't sure and by us putting together the available pieces while pointing out the missing parts keep their money safe. The longer the thread progresses, the more scams we expose, the more credible we become to that contingent of people.
Originally Posted by
Char
At the end of the day, none of the info really matters. This is why we need to have that defining line. It's where we need to be.
No recruitment-based opps, endless chain recruitment schemes, MLM, rev share programs, direct sales, or whatever you want to call them.
When approached, I don't care what it is, or how much money I supposedly can make. I DO NOT NEED TO KNOW and you don't either. All you need to know is if you can recruit endlessly and make gobs of money.
Endless recruiting is the hallmark of a Ponzi/Pyramid, I certainly don't believe anyone needs to look any further once this facet has been established in an opportunity.
Still one of the claims with the likes of a Monsoon is no recruiting required. People can pump money in for ad packs and for a time get paid, albeit with crumbs of their own money. Some of these people then willingly tell their friends thinking they found something unique. So we need something for those people which unfolds as the scam progresses.
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04-06-2016, 09:07 PM
#3371
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Char
I care that these have been allowed to continue and harm millions of people,
The reff whores and big promoters of these schemes like BB, MAP and TM come and go....They keep going till eventually they pick the wrong scam de jour to pimp and it bites them on the arse big time when the receiver moves in....
They all up having to pay back the money the scammed and in most cases they end up losing money cos of legal fees....
History shows with scams like CEP, Telex and especially Zeek Rewards that times are a changing and the receivers are being relentless in their pursuit of these big time promoters and their ill gotten gains...
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04-07-2016, 12:00 AM
#3372
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Another victim whose progress will be stopped dead in their tracks....
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04-07-2016, 02:50 AM
#3373
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Charles will take very, very, very good care of Nilesh. Can't have him not getting paid instantly.
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04-07-2016, 06:52 AM
#3374
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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04-07-2016, 06:57 AM
#3375
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Found on the TrafficMonsoonPONZI page on Facebook
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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