Thread: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

Charlie Scoville must be getting REALLY, REALLY desperate.

He's now pretending he is going to be the first HYIP ponzi fraud operator in history to take a payment processor to court for causing harm to ponzi victims



Traffic Monsoon Team page on Facebook


C'mon, Charlie, seriously, give it up.

Not only are you a criminal, keep this up and you're going to go down in history as one of the worlds' dumbest criminals

It would be like a guy turning up at his local police station to report someone stole his marijuana crop

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Charlie Scoville must be getting REALLY, REALLY desperate.

He's now pretending he is going to be the first HYIP ponzi fraud operator in history to take a payment processor to court for causing harm to ponzi victims



Traffic Monsoon Team page on Facebook

Why would people buy so much advertising they can't pay their bills? Isn't the purpose of purchasing TM traffic to drive eyeballs to a real product or service?
The Monsoon is site still up and running in all its glory, folks should be awash in cash from all those targeted clickers. Back office revenue sharing piling up as normal, just that Monsooners can't get at it. That money isn't guaranteed under TOS, Charles simply can't "share" right now.

If Paypal is illegally holding money a judge should be able to sort that without reams of bellyaching. Then again, when you're not really hiring attorneys I reckon racking up billable hours on hearsay isn't a consideration.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Charlie Scoville must be getting REALLY, REALLY desperate.

He's now pretending he is going to be the first HYIP ponzi fraud operator in history to take a payment processor to court for causing harm to ponzi victims



Traffic Monsoon Team page on Facebook


C'mon, Charlie, seriously, give it up.

Not only are you a criminal, keep this up and you're going to go down in history as one of the worlds' dumbest criminals

It would be like a guy turning up at his local police station to report someone stole his marijuana crop

Ah.....we're at 'blame the affiliates' stage. 'not enough affiliates came forward to go to court'.
The affiliates you stole from have nothing to do with YOUR paypal account chuckie. Just take them to court yourself with your alleged expert lawyers. I dare you.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Why would people buy so much advertising they can't pay their bills? Isn't the purpose of purchasing TM traffic to drive eyeballs to a real product or service?

not only that, he's already thrown out the excuse that everyone got what they paid for. Why would they need to say anything?

Originally Posted by Whip

not only that, he's already thrown out the excuse that everyone got what they paid for. Why would they need to say anything?

It's the height of foolishness, effectively admitting he's been selling an unregistered security. Maybe Scoville wants to help them practice victim statements for the during sentencing.?

I see Adrian has jumped on the futurenet bandwagon also

From the TrafficMonsoonUpdates page on Facebook

"CHARLES SAID"

Ah, well, we know everything after that's a lie then,

Next............

Originally Posted by Daveyw

I see Adrian has jumped on the futurenet bandwagon also

Adrian Hibbert @AdrianHibbertUK on Twitter

One thing you can never accuse serial ponzi pimps like Adrian Hibbert of being is overly loyal.

I'm thinking Mr Hibbert has provided sufficient evidence of his intended career path we can give him the title he so richly deserves:



ADRIAN HIBBERT.com

Was that another knockout blow Ive just read from Eagle one over at MMG? Dont think we will see a reply to your last few point from Charles anytime soon but always a well made point.. Its funny how they only really mention the advertising sales etc when they need to hide behind it when claiming everything is legit. When their all selling it either through videos or at seminars its all about recruiting new blood and buying adpacks to click on to make all that lovely lolly.

The "PayPal Declaration About Negative Impact" will be just as ineffective as this:

https://www.change.org/p/paypal-payp...-monsoon-funds

Advertising TM and personally inviting buglars to his home:

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Originally Posted by Bestbud

Advertising TM and personally inviting buglars to his home:

Frank_Calabro_Jr_002.jpg

You can't fix stupid but you can expose it.

I knew someone would have to try and respond to my post at MMG, and rorobobo got elected. Here is what he had to say, and I quote:

"Hello

With Paypal behaviour many members are not clicking their daily ads anymore (but they are returning slowly in TM from what Charles said few days ago) so I'm pretty sure that hundreds of advertisers (with adpacks and without adpacks) are getting less good results than before... So of course Paypal behaviour has impact hundreds of members...

Big company loan money to develop products and to advertise as well, they are taking risks and eventually they can loose money even if they cannot afford to lose what they loaned...

When an advertiser buys advertising campaign he is expecting to get leads and eventually sales... with less activity on the plateform he will get less good results that he was told about...

But again you didn't test TrafficMonsoon regarding advertising so you don't know of what you are talking about.

Of course Paypal loss has impacted advertising's results for members with or without adpacks...

In EVERY business you have to take RISK to be able to make money from the opportunity and from the website you are promoting (in case of revenue sharing advertising plateform).

What is wrong with a compagny which is sharing her revenue ? As far I know all member's balance combined don't exceed the total amount in each TM's PP accounts so Charles doesn't share virtual money.

I don't know if you did some research in Google but you can find dozen of stories about Paypal who frooze hundreds of entrepreneur's accounts and it wasn't related to revenue sharing business. And these people had some troubles to recover their money from Paypal even if they didn't do anything illegal...

We all know that Paypal will/did anything to keep the money as long as possible from frozen's accounts...

With lawyer or not, it takes some time to file a lawsuit.

By the way you didn't mention anything about the 61$ million still left in TM's paypal account ??? Few weeks ago you told that because of disputes the amount of money held by Paypal will be substantially less... ?

But from my point of view after 2 months of frozen account there are still 61$million held by Paypal, quite good actually"

So there is nothing to worry about. All is well, The money is safe in the evil PayPal, and you only have to wait 4 more months before PayPal will give up the money they have taken from TM. How silly of me to question the genius Charles and his crack advisers and attorney.

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What goes up must come down

Originally Posted by Bestbud

Advertising TM and personally inviting buglars to his home:

Frank_Calabro_Jr_002.jpg

If I was a corporate advertiser looking at this I would be thinking I'm paying too much for ads. I certainly wouldn't want any real product or service associated with it. If I was selling male enhancement pills or win at the casinos systems to suckers it might pique my interest. Then again, since there are 100s of these low quality traffic exchanges, why pay more for saps that click than necessary? Which brings me back to I'm paying to much.


On the other hand, this picture reminds me of the No Money Down Gurus that used to roll through town. It's uncanny how the con's techniques never change.



1. Emphasis on luxurious lifestyle
3. No pitfalls or corrections.
4. No bad news.
6. Emphasis on motivational material
10. Emphasis on no-down, low-down techniques
18. Too-good-to-be-true testimonials.

Real Estate B.S. Artist Detection Checklist, Part 1 – John T. Reed

Originally Posted by ribshaw

If I was a corporate advertiser looking at this I would be thinking I'm paying too much for ads. I certainly wouldn't want any real product or service associated with it. If I was selling male enhancement pills or win at the casinos systems to suckers it might pique my interest. Then again, since there are 100s of these low quality traffic exchanges, why pay more for saps that click than necessary? Which brings me back to I'm paying to much.


On the other hand, this picture reminds me of the No Money Down Gurus that used to roll through town. It's uncanny how the con's techniques never change.



1. Emphasis on luxurious lifestyle
3. No pitfalls or corrections.
4. No bad news.
6. Emphasis on motivational material
10. Emphasis on no-down, low-down techniques
18. Too-good-to-be-true testimonials.

Real Estate B.S. Artist Detection Checklist, Part 1 – John T. Reed

C'Mon Ribshaw,

to be fair, a skilled real-estate investor can cash in for thousands.

Just not easily.

So much for this NOT being an investment and TM just sells advertising....

"Nothing hurts more than being labelled with such names as scam or fraud"

Poor Anike Timothy has a LOT to learn about the HYIP ponzi business if she believes nothing hurts more than being called names.

Originally Posted by Bestbud

The "PayPal Declaration About Negative Impact" will be just as ineffective as this:

https://www.change.org/p/paypal-payp...-monsoon-funds

Not nearly as imaginative as the ponzi members who urged their supporters to flood a Federal judge and senators with tea bags in protest at their scam-du-jour being busted

Interesting that a simple question that has a simple answer cannot be answered by any of the TM'ers so far at MMG. You would think I was asking them to write out the formula for Einstein's Theory of Relativity. The mere fact they can't answer the question proves that TM is not an advertising business as claimed. The only who tried was stacy, and his answer went around the barn, through the countryside, across the lake, over the mountain, through tunnels and when he came out of the tunnel he was right back where he started.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

C'Mon Ribshaw,

to be fair, a skilled real-estate investor can cash in for thousands.

Just not easily.

I do think real estate is a great path toward building and/or storing wealth lest anyone think I call everything a scam. Not for me, however I have a few friends that own rentals they seem pleased with.
Years back I knew an agent at my gym that sold houses and invested in property I believe was doing fat stack well. He was probably 50-60 and had been at it for years. He was immersed in the industry, I would suspect he had a solid working knowledge of building codes, values, rents, and maintenance costs. On top of that, likely had contacts with attorneys, inspectors, surveyors, insurance companies, and reputable contractors.


Compare that with the Traffic Monsoon Real Estate Investor.

Considers watching Youtube videos of easy money and pictures of more easy money on Facebook doing one's homework.
Buys investment property with money desperately needed to pay bills.
Rings doorbell 10 times.
Sits in the tub waiting for it to fill with cash while imagining doing this with with five house a week.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

"Nothing hurts more than being labelled with such names as scam or fraud"

Poor Anike Timothy has a LOT to learn about the HYIP ponzi business if she believes nothing hurts more than being called names.

and they are clearly talking from first hand experience.

It's probably an opportune time to explain to readers why all the huffing and puffing, Scoville lies, stacy532isms, and incredibly long winded posts on the "usual suspect" HYIP ponzi forums are all so much stuff and nonsense.

When and if Traffic Monsoon members actually took the time to read Paypals' User Agreement or prohibited activities they would be left in no doubt as to what has happened:

16.2 If we hold a reasonable belief that there is an increased risk associated with your account, we may limit your access to sending, receiving or withdrawing funds or using guest checkout or direct Credit Card payment processed by PayPal for up to 180 days. We may take these actions beyond 180 days if we reasonably believe the risk still exists or are prohibited by law from releasing funds or unrestricting your account.

I'm tellin' ya,