Thread: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

Originally Posted by okosh

There is no revenue....Each $50 sale of adpack creates at least $55 of debt when members cash out....In most cases the $50 sale creates $60 of debt since most adpacks sold also need to pay 10% reff whore commissions....

Any more proof needed that TM is a ponzi?????......

The 45 bucks instantly turns into revenue. It cant be anything else .. It just ads to the revenue pool .. The 5$ is paid to the sponsor .. And 45$ goes into the revenue pool now if anyone gets any of that revenue is up to charles.. He does not have to give it to anyone .. He is not obligated or forced to .. One does not hold the adpack with a signed contract promising returns from it ..

Upon further examination of your posting of his Facebook page, Bestbud, how much do you want to bet this nut is going to go postal when his next ponzi/scam/ridiculousness fails? I'm glad I'm not in North Carolina.

Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

You've exhausted my good will. Prepare for damnation proceedings, as it is clear that while you are of good heart, you have also whole-heartedly embraced twisted and harmful thought patterns which lead down the road of good intentions in a vehicle of temptation. And we all know where that ends.

What legally would stop me from giving money back to people that bought a service from me .. Simple question..

And yes i do have a good heart i dont understand why some folks need to resort to childish name calling and hate and or negativity when they try to argue a point .. To me that ruins any credibility they might have had .. As they have no morals .. They give them up to argue makes no sense..

Originally Posted by Gina

Seriously, Bestbud I watched the entire video. Now I need a shower. But one really needs to watch the whole thing. I'm not kidding.

I know. He loves explaining how he went from broke to figuring out how to get rich by stealing other people's money.

This truck will be the first thing to go once he's declared a "net winner" by the Receiverships for MAPs and TM:

Stacy, these good people are actually trying to save you. How much money have you put into this?

Some of the facebook members decided to create a we hate tm blog .. But they still support the monsoon just created a page to complain.. Here is a response a member had to the hate page..



I am appalled. If you support TM and Charles Scoville, then what does he need enemies for!? You are quite misled about many issues - or maybe just assuming and lacking knowledge. I am not going to waste my time going over every point though. However, how can you even compare MPA and TM? I was equally involved with both and know first hand that if you want to look for an honest leader, you have him right here at TM. Also, Charles was not misleading us about anything. I know how quickly things change in business when all parties are not playing fair and you as a leader are doing the best damage control you can. I have had no trouble following what has been going on and what is going on now. If you understand global banking and all the authorities and necessary components needed for opening a bank, Charles did not lie about anything. How Charles has handled everything is outstanding. TM hardly missed a beat and was never stalled for more than a few days. Now our business is running and growing again, not to mention that none of us will lose their money or ad packs. The only way that it could still happen, if the members don't stop all this BS. Maybe you did not notice that MPA is done, it's over. They have to start completely over, from the ground up. They have been out of business for over two months. Nothing happening there. Not to mention that everyone lost their ad packs. Where do you think all the money is going from PayPal once MPA money is released? Lastly to Andrew R. Jensen's comment: "disorganized and awkward"? Have you ever built and organized large businesses? I can only say that the temporary TM solution could not be more organized and easy to deal with considering that PayPal hold is not under Charles's control. Separating the new business from the affected part of the business was exactly what I was hoping for. All members would be better off by quitting all the speculations and focusing on building their businesses. It is all the "Quacking" and complaining that is making everything seem so disorganized and "messy".

Originally Posted by stacy532

So much easier but if you like doing it the hard way your more than welcome to continue..

I gotta agree with you, stacy.

It's just so EXHAUSTING typing your name and address.

And, just think of all the things you could be doing with the time you save by not doing it "the hard way"

Golly gosh, it must be so hard being a ponzi pimp as the scheme you're defending collapses right before your very lies eyes

Poor stacys' imagination must be running on overload trying to come up with ever more ridiculous rationalization and justification of his illegal activities while simultaneously, coming up with explanations for Scovilles' lies.

Originally Posted by Gina

Upon further examination of your posting of his Facebook page, Bestbud, how much do you want to bet this nut is going to go postal when his next ponzi/scam/ridiculousness fails? I'm glad I'm not in North Carolina.

I agree. When MAPs pulled out of the USA, he scrambled to join TM. He's going to have a tough time finding the next Ponzi Scheme to join that will enable him to maintain his current lifestyle.

Originally Posted by stacy532

Some of the facebook members decided to create a we hate tm blog .. But they still support the monsoon just created a page to complain.. Here is a response a member had to the hate page..



I am appalled. If you support TM and Charles Scoville, then what does he need enemies for!? You are quite misled about many issues - or maybe just assuming and lacking knowledge. I am not going to waste my time going over every point though. However, how can you even compare MPA and TM? I was equally involved with both and know first hand that if you want to look for an honest leader, you have him right here at TM. Also, Charles was not misleading us about anything. I know how quickly things change in business when all parties are not playing fair and you as a leader are doing the best damage control you can. I have had no trouble following what has been going on and what is going on now. If you understand global banking and all the authorities and necessary components needed for opening a bank, Charles did not lie about anything. How Charles has handled everything is outstanding. TM hardly missed a beat and was never stalled for more than a few days. Now our business is running and growing again, not to mention that none of us will lose their money or ad packs. The only way that it could still happen, if the members don't stop all this BS. Maybe you did not notice that MPA is done, it's over. They have to start completely over, from the ground up. They have been out of business for over two months. Nothing happening there. Not to mention that everyone lost their ad packs. Where do you think all the money is going from PayPal once MPA money is released? Lastly to Andrew R. Jensen's comment: "disorganized and awkward"? Have you ever built and organized large businesses? I can only say that the temporary TM solution could not be more organized and easy to deal with considering that PayPal hold is not under Charles's control. Separating the new business from the affected part of the business was exactly what I was hoping for. All members would be better off by quitting all the speculations and focusing on building their businesses. It is all the "Quacking" and complaining that is making everything seem so disorganized and "messy".

I have tears. If you can't see this is a Ponzi (and hint, the AG is reading this thread now) you are a moron, Stacy. I'd advise you to get out now.

Originally Posted by stacy532

. To me that ruins any credibility they might have had ...

Who cares whether or not a ponzi pimp thinks he or she has "credibility" ??

Seriously, stacy, you've been hanging around HYIP ponzi forums way too long.

People aren't talking TOO you, they are talking THROUGH you.

Your fatuous arguments might get you an elephant stamp on your wrist on MMG, but, out in the real world, the average Joe or Joanne see them for what they are

Originally Posted by Gina

I have tears. If you can't see this is a Ponzi (and hint, the AG is reading this thread now) you are a moron, Stacy. I'd advise you to get out now.

I would have but since you called me a moron i have to stay in it now good job .. Maybe next time you can try to be nice to folks its not that difficult .. My parents worked for the district attourney here and in Albuquerque they dont see anything wrong with selling traffic and sharing the revenue after that sell..

Originally Posted by Gina

If you can't see this is a Ponzi (and hint, the AG is reading this thread now) you are a moron, Stacy. .

Of course he knows it's a ponzi / pyramid.

He's just doing his job, like a good little ponzi pimp.

If you look closely, he's been building his exit strategy for weeks now, complete with a recently added signature "disclaimer"

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Who cares whether or not a ponzi pimp thinks he or she has "credibility" ??

Seriously, stacy, you've been hanging around HYIP ponzi forums way too long.

People aren't talking TOO you, they are talking THROUGH you.

Your fatuous arguments might get you an elephant stamp on your wrist on MMG, but, out in the real world, the average Joe or Joanne see them for what they are

How pretentious of you to think that folks have to think like you just to make it through the day .. I dont need your approval dad ill be alright .. Im not asking for permission to be in the monsoon im just wondering how folks make it through the day with all this negativity in their hearts and thoughts must be just aweful..

Originally Posted by stacy532

Maybe next time you can try to be nice to folks its not that difficult ..

Nah, "next time" we'll go twice as hard

Being "nice to folks" is one thing.

Deliberately treating a serial ponzi pimp with complete and utter contempt and disdain is quite another

Originally Posted by stacy532

I would have but since you called me a moron i have to stay in it now good job .. Maybe next time you can try to be nice to folks its not that difficult .. My parents worked for the district attourney here and in Albuquerque they dont see anything wrong with selling traffic and sharing the revenue after that sell..

Stacy every time I read your regurgitated responses to things no one is saying I am so reminded of this quote:


The Man Who Does Not Read Has No Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read | Quote Investigator

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Of course he knows it's a ponzi / pyramid.

He's just doing his job, like a good little ponzi pimp.

If you look closely, he's been building his exit strategy for weeks now, complete with a recently added signature "disclaimer"

Wishful thinking im not going anywhere ..
Im a good little traffic pimp. ..

Originally Posted by stacy532

I would have but since you called me a moron i have to stay in it now good job .. Maybe next time you can try to be nice to folks its not that difficult .. My parents worked for the district attourney here and in Albuquerque they dont see anything wrong with selling traffic and sharing the revenue after that sell..

Sorry, love, but that just doesn't cut it here. It's all illegal here in California....and in the United States. Try again, friend.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Stacy every time I read your regurgitated responses to things no one is saying I am so reminded of this quote:


The Man Who Does Not Read Has No Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read | Quote Investigator

the man who does not care has a huge advantage over the man who cares too much about the wrong thing .. Lol

Originally Posted by Gina

Sorry, love, but that just doesn't cut it here. It's all illegal here in California....and in the United States. Try again, friend.

Buying and selling traffic is illegal in the usa ?
The hell you say ..

Or is the money he gives back illegal its so confusing all these experts just fall out of the trees with their own variation of the actual law ...

Stacy, you're involved in a Ponzi.

Originally Posted by stacy532

im just wondering how folks make it through the day with all this negativity in their hearts and thoughts must be just aweful..

Ummnn, we're on a forum named REALSCAM.com

We discuss SCAMS

No "negativity" is required when discussing blatant scams and doing so certainly doesn't affect the rest of ones' day / week / month / life

Originally Posted by stacy532

Buying and selling traffic is illegal in the usa ?
The hell you say ..

Or is the money he gives back illegal its so confusing all these experts just fall out of the trees with their own variation of the actual law ...

I'll quote it again, The Man Who Does Not Read Has No Advantage Over the Man Who Cannot Read | Quote Investigator .

This has already been explained to you ad infinitum.

Stacy hasn't been financially hurt enough yet to feel the full effects of a Ponzi scheme.

Watch and learn. The TM aftermath is about to get ugly.

Originally Posted by Gina

Stacy, these good people are actually trying to save you. How much money have you put into this?

I would so want to believe this .. Its easier to put out fire with water and not add fuel to the flames.. The only person that actually showed she cared about me a little bit they banned her .. How is that for irony..

Originally Posted by okosh

Each $50 sale of adpack creates at least $55 of debt when members cash out....In most cases the $50 sale creates $60 of debt since most adpacks sold also need to pay 10% reff whore commissions....

And that is all anyone with even one iota of common sense should need to see to realize that these things are never legitimate businesses.

Every single "sale" creates more liabilities that are guaranteed to make the so called business collapse under its own weight at some point.

Originally Posted by okosh

Any more proof needed that TM is a ponzi?????......

Nope.