Thread: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

I bet Stacy thinks TM is blessed by God to.

He will believe anything.

Stacy and the other Ponzi Pimps remind me of gamblers or drug addicts who will forever try to justify getting "one more hit".

TM is a dangerous Ponzi game and justification is the mother of all stagnation.

Originally Posted by Fendaril

I bet Stacy thinks TM is blessed by God to.

He will believe anything.

No i believe you are to be here to argue .. It is a blessing ..

Originally Posted by Bestbud

Stacy and the other Ponzi Pimps remind me of gamblers or drug addicts who will forever try to justify getting "one more hit".

TM is a dangerous Ponzi game and justification is the mother of all stagnation.

I dont do drugs so ill have to take ur word for it ..

Originally Posted by stacy532

How hard is it to grasp that i dont use your perameters for anything on this planet .. Monsoon sells traffic .. No way to deny that . how can one buy anything online and not be a member . buy from amazon yep u gotta be a member.. If not how would they know where to ship your item .. Seems like under the table non trackable sales would be a huge illegal red flag.. What amazon does with the money made on that item ought to be up to them not you.. The issue you guys have and the only one is that he shares too much money back .. Trying to slam or bash. The services is pointless to your arguments..

No you don't have to be a member of Amazon to order things. You can be a guest and order anything you want. If you want special perks, then you join as a Prime member, but you decide if you feel it is worth it to you to join and the cost of the annual fee. Another one of your claims that is false. You cannot compare TM to a real business (Amazon, Google Ads, etc.), but yet you insist on trying to do so. You are discrediting yourself every time you try it.

Charles could be put in prison and you will still be saying he never lied, TM was legal, and it was all us "haters" that caused TM to collapse.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

James1997: Welcome to RS and look forward to your contributions in the game of chasing your tail with stacy.

Hi Eagle,

Thanks for the welcome. Unfortunately Stacy seems a lost cause. He knows what this is but seems to enjoy twisting words in his favour. Notice he didn't reply to my comment about him turning LRM's statement about possible prosecution for Charles into imprisonment for everyone that joins TM.

Originally Posted by stacy532

I dont do drugs so ill have to take ur word for it ..

The TM Kool-aid you addicted to is not a drug??

Originally Posted by James1977

Hello everyone,

Have been reading this thread and the one on MMG for quite a while now and am becoming fascinated by this new sub culture I have come across. I was happy to remain an observer rather than a commentator until I read Stacy's latest post on MMG, which I have copied and pasted below, and it compelled me to reply. As I am currently unable to do so there and I know he frequents this thread here goes;
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G'day James and welcome to RealScam

Originally Posted by stacy532

The exact amounts of what is purchased. Has not been released . i purchase 4 of the services.. And hate to disagree but every service generates profits as they are sales . only one qualifies you for a share of that profit..
I guess if someone was a rational thinker they would look at the fact that up to february 11th 2016 he had a building reserve in paypal not a declining one.. But again we will be forced into the argument that its just because most of the members were not withdrawing but after 55 days that actually puts more strain on the reserve..
I see you look at it as an instant transfer of money .. Member buys adpack and then instantly starts receiving 0.001. Per click .. Not really the member has purchased a. Way to receive a portion of the revenue being collected.. He shares the revenue much slower than it comes in .. If nothing comes in he has nothing to share.. Thus the limits or caps placed on the revenue sharing is not promised or guaranteed .. You cant give those on anything based on sales..

Let's get this straight revenue does not equal profit! If you don't understand that just ask your boss in the bakery tomorrow if when you sell a cake for $2 it equates to $2 profit!

I understand revenue share can be higher or lower (if there were actual sales) but just going by the $1 per day per ad pack that this is sold on. According to everyone still involved in round 2 revenue sharing is above way above that actually. So people's ten site visits are now costing much more than they are being sold for. How can this happen? You do realise ad packs cost TM money?

As for reserves up until the 11thFeb er only have Charles word for that, which given his previous record and performance over the last couple of months is worth very little.

What would be the reaction of the TM family if for 7 days no revenue was shared? They seem to be kicking off when it's under a dollar a day.

Originally Posted by okosh

G'day James and welcome to RealScam

Cheers Okosh. Happy to be here. As someone said ages ago on this forum all we really have to do is wait for TM to fall over.

Originally Posted by stacy532

How hard is it to grasp that i dont use your perameters for anything on this planet .. Monsoon sells traffic .. No way to deny that . how can one buy anything online and not be a member . buy from amazon yep u gotta be a member.. If not how would they know where to ship your item .. Seems like under the table non trackable sales would be a huge illegal red flag.. What amazon does with the money made on that item ought to be up to them not you.. The issue you guys have and the only one is that he shares too much money back .. Trying to slam or bash. The services is pointless to your arguments..

You don't use the same perameters? What does that even mean?

Haven't seen anyone deny TM sells traffic. Seen people say the traffic is next to useless but not seen them deny that traffic is actually sold.

As Eagle has ready pointed out you can buy plenty of thing online without being a member and having t endlessly recruit people. As long as you provide your address and payment details. No membership required.

As I have said before and will happily say again, I have no problem with profit sharing if there is any to go around. Unfortunately yourself and Charles have failed to prove TM actually makes any.

Originally Posted by James1977

Let's get this straight revenue does not equal profit! If you don't understand that just ask your boss in the bakery tomorrow if when you sell a cake for $2 it equates to $2 profit!

I understand revenue share can be higher or lower (if there were actual sales) but just going by the $1 per day per ad pack that this is sold on. According to everyone still involved in round 2 revenue sharing is above way above that actually. So people's ten site visits are now costing much more than they are being sold for. How can this happen? You do realise ad packs cost TM money?

As for reserves up until the 11thFeb er only have Charles word for that, which given his previous record and performance over the last couple of months is worth very little.

What would be the reaction of the TM family if for 7 days no revenue was shared? They seem to be kicking off when it's under a dollar a day.

Well for someone selling traffic it is almost all profit as he does not have to buy his product to resell it to us . there also no cost in production. So the the cake anaolgy is nonsense.. There we go with the adpacks costing money they dont cost charles anything they are simply used to keep track of what each members share in revenue is .. Just like if it was soda and we are holding empty cups waiting for someone to buy soda so we can all have a share of the soda purchased. So no there is no way to predict how much can be or will be shared.. All he can do is place a reasonable cap on tge revenue.. And there were screenshots of the reserves and a live login video on jan 11th so no word needed to be taken .. And since he froze the paypal backed share positions the payza backed ones are earning up to a level set by charles that he regulates according to sales ..

Originally Posted by James1977

Cheers Okosh. Happy to be here. As someone said ages ago on this forum all we really have to do is wait for TM to fall over.

Tm already did fall over IMO...Round 2 is strictly for the desperate and completely naive newbies and will be lucky to last a few more weeks....The big hitters have long moved on and are now pimping the next scam du jour....On one FB page(think it was Jose Nunes from memory) you'll find a post where he asked everyone to post what they pimping now....LMAO @ the garbage some moved onto...

Even Stacy got out of TM well over a month ago and stopped promoting it.....Replaced his reff whore link with that BS disclaimer and looked to distance himself from this scam just like many of the big hitters have done...

Originally Posted by James1977

You don't use the same perameters? What does that even mean?

Haven't seen anyone deny TM sells traffic. Seen people say the traffic is next to useless but not seen them deny that traffic is actually sold.

As Eagle has ready pointed out you can buy plenty of thing online without being a member and having t endlessly recruit people. As long as you provide your address and payment details. No membership required.

As I have said before and will happily say again, I have no problem with profit sharing if there is any to go around. Unfortunately yourself and Charles have failed to prove TM actually makes any.

1 that i dont trust the perameters he sets on things .. And that they are the only possible answer or outcome .. Easy to reconcile as its ususlly an opinion based on .pure negativity

. i tried to buy something from amazon and was denied they wanted my address as where to ship the product .. So yes they require a login and password as does ebay . my bank and every business ive ever delt with to deny that is absurd..

Lastly he shares the revenue that he brings in on every service .. I have asked plenty of times what is keeping him from sharing the revenue collected what law limits what u can do with excess funds taken in on a service ...

I do headlight restorations as a hobby .. And extra money its great exercise..
I charge 40 bux for a full restoration ..
I spend roughly 10$ on each car in materials .. So i make 30 bucks for my hour of labor..

If i chose to give the first person i ever restored headlights a full refund and or excess funds there is nothing stopping me from doing so .. I know i cant do that for everyone at once .. I also know i cant advertise to everyone if you let me do your lights ill pay you to do them .. But if i did give some of my already happy customers some money back later after ive done some more restorations im sure they will never call anyone else to provide that service ..
Im sure that is what charles intentions are with the revenue he shares back to his customers .. Easiest way to promote your service is to offer them a bonus on top of the service..

Originally Posted by stacy532

Lastly he shares the revenue that he brings in on every service ..

There is no revenue....Each $50 sale of adpack creates at least $55 of debt when members cash out....In most cases the $50 sale creates $60 of debt since most adpacks sold also need to pay 10% reff whore commissions....

Any more proof needed that TM is a ponzi?????......

In regard to this comment of yours, and I quote: " . i tried to buy something from amazon and was denied they wanted my address as where to ship the product .. So yes they require a login and password as does ebay ." You've got to be kidding me.

So let me get this straight. Because they wanted your address so they could send you what you ordered, you would not give it to them, thus it proves you have to have a username and password to buy? How did you make that quantum leap? How in the world were they going to ship you what you ordered if you didn't give them an address to where you wanted the goods shipped?

I guess I need to return my 3 TV's and two DVD/BlueRay players back to Amazon when I ordered online as a guest with no password or username; which according to you can't be done. Talk out of your assets much?

Originally Posted by EagleOne

In regard to this comment of yours, and I quote: " . i tried to buy something from amazon and was denied they wanted my address as where to ship the product .. So yes they require a login and password as does ebay ." You've got to be kidding me.

So let me get this straight. Because they wanted your address so they could send you what you ordered, you would not give it to them, thus it proves you have to have a username and password to buy? How did you make that quantum leap? How in the world were they going to ship you what you ordered if you didn't give them an address to where you wanted the goods shipped?

I guess I need to return my 3 TV's and two DVD/BlueRay players back to Amazon when I ordered online as a guest with no password or username; which according to you can't be done. Talk out of your assets much?

crap. I gotta bunch of stuff to return too damn it. I have no idea what to do about the stuff I had sent to other addresses.

Originally Posted by stacy532

1 that i dont trust the perameters he sets on things .. And that they are the only possible answer or outcome .. Easy to reconcile as its ususlly an opinion based on .pure negativity

. i tried to buy something from amazon and was denied they wanted my address as where to ship the product .. So yes they require a login and password as does ebay . my bank and every business ive ever delt with to deny that is absurd..

Lastly he shares the revenue that he brings in on every service .. I have asked plenty of times what is keeping him from sharing the revenue collected what law limits what u can do with excess funds taken in on a service ...

I do headlight restorations as a hobby .. And extra money its great exercise..
I charge 40 bux for a full restoration ..
I spend roughly 10$ on each car in materials .. So i make 30 bucks for my hour of labor..

If i chose to give the first person i ever restored headlights a full refund and or excess funds there is nothing stopping me from doing so .. I know i cant do that for everyone at once .. I also know i cant advertise to everyone if you let me do your lights ill pay you to do them .. But if i did give some of my already happy customers some money back later after ive done some more restorations im sure they will never call anyone else to provide that service ..
Im sure that is what charles intentions are with the revenue he shares back to his customers .. Easiest way to promote your service is to offer them a bonus on top of the service..

You've exhausted my good will. Prepare for damnation proceedings, as it is clear that while you are of good heart, you have also whole-heartedly embraced twisted and harmful thought patterns which lead down the road of good intentions in a vehicle of temptation. And we all know where that ends.

Isn't this one of the oafs pimping this nonsense?

Has Jose Nonsense forgotten than the 2 Banners Jokers clowns admitted there was no outside advertising whatsoever?
It was 100% internal, closed loop.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

We'll have to get Okosh to frame a market for us on whether serial ponzi pimp and Traffic Monsoon insider, Jose Nunes is psychologically unwell, just doing what pimps do, is having a lend of us or is just plain stupid.



Jose Nunes' TrafficMonsoonupdates page on Facebook

Originally Posted by Fat City, LA

Has Jose Nonsense forgotten than the 2 Banners Jokers clowns admitted there was no outside advertising whatsoever?
It was 100% internal, closed loop.

c'mon......don't ever let the truth get in the way of filching a good mark

Originally Posted by Whip

c'mon......don't ever let the truth get in the way of filching a good mark

Ha! Along the same lines:pimps are screaming TM is up to 2% a day.
Yes. For less than 2% of the people.The rest get dick all.
Its just a brand new ponzi.

[QUOTE=Gina;98680]Isn't this one of the oafs pimping this nonsense?


Calabro Jr. wants everyone to think he figured all of this out for himself; but, he's been taking lessons from Simon Stepsys (MAPs).

He's been amassing weapons and ammunition for quite awhile now:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

Ticking time bomb?

Originally Posted by EagleOne

In regard to this comment of yours, and I quote: " . i tried to buy something from amazon and was denied they wanted my address as where to ship the product .. So yes they require a login and password as does ebay ." You've got to be kidding me.

So let me get this straight. Because they wanted your address so they could send you what you ordered, you would not give it to them, thus it proves you have to have a username and password to buy? How did you make that quantum leap? How in the world were they going to ship you what you ordered if you didn't give them an address to where you wanted the goods shipped?

I guess I need to return my 3 TV's and two DVD/BlueRay players back to Amazon when I ordered online as a guest with no password or username; which according to you can't be done. Talk out of your assets much?

I was not given the ability to check out as a guest if you were you must be very lucky .. I would hate to have to fill out that guest order form each time .. If you login its all saved and only typing you have to do is your passsword. So much easier but if you like doing it the hard way your more than welcome to continue..

Seriously, Bestbud I watched the entire video. Now I need a shower. But one really needs to watch the whole thing. I'm not kidding.