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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post

    He's still licking his wounds from WWSz and mad at me for destroying his money train.
    GoldIsMoney has fresh wounds to lick.....He made all his deposits to TM by paypal and openly admitted that he never asked for a single withdraw....He was "building his TM account".....Now with the restart he has lost the lot....

    Couldn't happen to a more deserving person....
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    https://www.facebook.com/frankiecala...8/?pnref=story

    The bigger they are, the harder they fall. I hope he still likes Top Ramen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    GoldIsMoney has fresh wounds to lick.....He made all his deposits to TM by paypal and openly admitted that he never asked for a single withdraw....He was "building his TM account".....Now with the restart he has lost the lot....

    Couldn't happen to a more deserving person....
    At least he's staying on the MMG HYIP ponzi forum to spout his nonsense and not putting himself at risk by openly associating himself with criminal activity on the 'net
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    And the BS from Charles "I'm opening a TM Bank in Dubai" Schoville continues....

    From the "Traffic Monsoon Official Group - United States TM Events" page on Scambook....

    Spot the difference competition.....LOL

    Charles must be flat broke it he can't find a couple thousand dollars to use for an initial deposit to the TM bank account.....

    Charles Scoville
    To open a bank we need an initial deposit. We're waiting for paypal to release the funds so we can complete the plans for the bank.
    Like Reply 2 Yesterday at 2:10pm

    Charles Scoville
    the TM bank isn't opening in Dubai.. There is a bank account there already, but not in use. To complete the opening of the TM bank we need an initial deposit, which we now need to wait for PayPal to release funds in order to make.
    Like Reply 1 Yesterday at 2:14pm
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    so why isn't he suing paypal? how is he paying his 'top attorneys' if he can't even fund an account a couple bucks?
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    And before you reply remember to give me the definition of a ponzi pimp please!

    Sure, easily done::


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    Lol it's quite funny watching them squirm, not so funny listening to people who have been ripped off and lost way more than they should have.
    What's the consensus on Charles being arrested and charged this time? I'm in two minds, he's got away with more than a dozens previously. But this one is huge and there's a lot of unhappy people involved. What do you guys think? I'd certainly like to see him in court.

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    IF
    * There really is $60 million in Paypal - he's gone

    * He really has returned to the US - he's gone

    * There really are more than two million members - he's gone

    * He's using other US based banks or payment processors - he's gone

    Fraud, mail fraud, money laundering, tax evasion as well as conspiracy to commit
    fraud, mail fraud, money laundering, tax evasion,

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    And the BS from Charles "I'm opening a TM Bank in Dubai" Schoville continues....

    From the "Traffic Monsoon Official Group - United States TM Events" page on Scambook....

    Spot the difference competition.....LOL

    Charles must be flat broke it he can't find a couple thousand dollars to use for an initial deposit to the TM bank account.....

    Thank you Charles for admitting TM is a Ponzi.

    He is only "sharing" part of TM's revenue with the members, which is 10% over a 50-55 day period. He has plenty of money in Payza and STP, so he shouldn't have any problem funding the bank. The mere fact he can't means that he needs every dime into Payza and STP to pay the members their "revenue share."

    Of course he could setup a Go Fund Me account to get the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bestbud View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/frankiecala...8/?pnref=story

    The bigger they are, the harder they fall. I hope he still likes Top Ramen!
    Frank you are a liar. You said you weren't going to pull people into something else, but here you are pimping leverage18.com: www.leverage18.com
    What a hypocrite and liar.
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    Leverage18 is set up on a free website ?

    "GENUINELY FREE. FOREVER.
    For the price of absolutely nothing, you get..."

    https://www.zoho.com/sites/pricing.html
    "the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveyw View Post
    How can all this be stopped? A genuine question. Whats going on not just TM but all the schemes aimed at parting people with their money like this, is just wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daveyw View Post
    Lol it's quite funny watching them squirm, not so funny listening to people who have been ripped off and lost way more than they should have.
    What's the consensus on Charles being arrested and charged this time? I'm in two minds, he's got away with more than a dozens previously. But this one is huge and there's a lot of unhappy people involved. What do you guys think? I'd certainly like to see him in court.
    Stick around and sadly you will see that we go through this same scenario over and over. So it's time again for my yearly spiel:

    It would be great if Charles is arrested, but this is how that translates to me vs. the big picture:

    All alcohol can cause drunk driving - not just the type or brand. Also, we can't expect law enforcement to catch every drunk driver. The massive public campaign that educated people about drunk driving has resulted in people being aware of the dangers. Now, if you do it, it's on you.

    We need a public campaign educating people about NETWORK MARKETING.

    ALL, and I mean 'all', recruitment based opportunities get you drunk. This is what people miss and why they continue to be duped - it doesn't matter if it's soap or advertising banners.

    Yes mlm is legal, but only if you retail 50%. The caveat is that that NEVER happens. I suggest it CAN'T happen because of the MLM system. It's an inherent problem that can't be fixed.

    Here's a very good article with an 'in depth' explanation if you haven't read it already:
    All You Need To Know About MLM (Is MLM a Scam?)

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    The heightened awareness of the drunk driving issue was due largely to MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Drivers). Perhaps what is needed is a CAPP, ( Citizens Against Ponzi Pimps)! Much of the problem is that greed seems to override logic when it comes to these schemes.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    The heightened awareness of the drunk driving issue was due largely to MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Drivers). Perhaps what is needed is a CAPP, ( Citizens Against Ponzi Pimps)! Much of the problem is that greed seems to override logic when it comes to these schemes.
    Agreed about MADD. Big shout out to Soapbox"MOM" for starting realscam.

    People do override logic with greed. I know CAPP was meant to be funny, it was, but it also helps make my point. People will say, "Oh, I'm against Ponzis, but my business isn't one."

    I suggest CON - Citizens Opposing Networking

    Recruitment based Ponzis fall under the umbrella of NWM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    Agreed about MADD. Big shout out to Soapbox"MOM" for starting realscam.
    Thank you. There is nowhere I'd rather be. The original owner, who sold the site years ago, is responsible for putting it together. He brought me in as the first administrator. I convinced the incredible GlimDropper to join us and he was the brains and techie behind the building of the site. We owe him such a debt of gratitude. I volunteered to be the public face of the site and handle all the front office duties. My heart has always been with the victims of the many scams out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Frank you are a liar. You said you weren't going to pull people into something else, but here you are pimping leverage18.com: Leverage18 - Home
    What a hypocrite and liar.
    Dude is still delusional. This is the same thing he said when he was in MAPs:

    Calabro_Jr.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    Agreed about MADD. Big shout out to Soapbox"MOM" for starting realscam.

    People do override logic with greed. I know CAPP was meant to be funny, it was, but it also helps make my point. People will say, "Oh, I'm against Ponzis, but my business isn't one."

    I suggest CON - Citizens Opposing Networking

    Recruitment based Ponzis fall under the umbrella of NWM.
    Amen to kudos for SBM and all of the RS staff! I like the CON idea, but networking isn't necessarily despicable so much as network marketing.I also neglected to mention(old brain problem) that along with greed, desperation plays a big part in pulling suckers in. (climbs down off of soapbox and slinks away into the dark.)
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    "the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    They will be dancing the angry jig soon enough.

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    The TM PayPal account was frozen before the Las Vegas event which is why Scoville canceled. The pimps sold tickets and hosted their own event anyway.

    Here's what denial looks like:





    And,

    https://www.facebook.com/SteveLawson...type=2&theater

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    If anyone needed evidence of the fact ponzi pimps and players live in a world of their own, they will find it in this post from serial ponzi pimp, vella85 on the MMG HYIP ponzi forum, in which he is attempting to blame Paypal for the collapse of Traffic Monsoon:



    Instead of providing real world examples of Paypals' (supposed) wrongdoing, instead he offers examples of what happened to previous ponzis in their dealings with Paypal.

    Poor vella85 is a perfect example of what happens to those who spend way too much time immersed in the ponzi culture and, in the end, lose touch with reality

    They were all PONZIS, vella

    Ponzis either collapse or get sprung by Paypal or the authorities

    That's what happens.

    How many times does the same thing have to happen before the "vella85s" of this world wake up and realize

    PONZIS AREN'T "REAL"

    NOTHING ABOUT THEM IS "REAL"

    THEY ARE DESIGNED TO LOOK "REAL" BUT THEY ARE NOT

    THEY ARE NO MORE "REAL" THAN "THE MATRIX" OR "CALL OF DUTY-BLACK OPS" OR "GRAND THEFT AUTO"

    ONLY THE MONEY THAT 90% OF PLAYERS LOSE IS "REAL"

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    Watch all the "innocent" ponzi pimps come out from under their rocks with the usual "never invest more than you can afford to lose" and "I was only passing on information" or "I never said to trust Charles" and "I never recruited anyone, so I'm not a pimp" B/S

    Good luck living in a world where that rationalizing and justifying criminal activity is the norm, guys and gals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post


    Watch all the "innocent" ponzi pimps come out from under their rocks with the usual "never invest more than you can afford to lose" and "I was only passing on information" or "I never said to trust Charles" and "I never recruited anyone, so I'm not a pimp" B/S

    Good luck living in a world where that rationalizing and justifying criminal activity is the norm, guys and gals.
    This is how Ponzi schemes ruin lives. This guy may never get his money back and now he's in debt for the next 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    Stick around and sadly you will see that we go through this same scenario over and over. So it's time again for my yearly spiel:

    It would be great if Charles is arrested, but this is how that translates to me vs. the big picture:

    All alcohol can cause drunk driving - not just the type or brand. Also, we can't expect law enforcement to catch every drunk driver. The massive public campaign that educated people about drunk driving has resulted in people being aware of the dangers. Now, if you do it, it's on you.

    We need a public campaign educating people about NETWORK MARKETING.

    ALL, and I mean 'all', recruitment based opportunities get you drunk. This is what people miss and why they continue to be duped - it doesn't matter if it's soap or advertising banners.

    Yes mlm is legal, but only if you retail 50%. The caveat is that that NEVER happens. I suggest it CAN'T happen because of the MLM system. It's an inherent problem that can't be fixed.

    Here's a very good article with an 'in depth' explanation if you haven't read it already:
    All You Need To Know About MLM (Is MLM a Scam?)
    Thank you Char your post hit me like a sledge hammer. By that I mean the realisation that the authorities will be doing nothing about any of these scams. The fact Scoville is on his 17th site is proof of that I suppose. As much as I agree with your post I also disagree, I have to because I have to have faith. Point very well made by the way. I actually agree that all MLM is a sham because I was exposed to it at a young age and realised very quickly that Im never going to make at money at this and so have never been near it since. These ponzi schemes that we are seeing now are a whole different animal and the way people are lapping it up saddens me because they are driven by pure greed and blinded to reason, Just look at the youtube video posted above for proof of that. Ive been working away on facebook with many other folk trying to convince people that its a scam and I can tell ya its been hard work making them see sense. Whoever owns and runs this site I take my hat off too, but guys its not enough, not even close, just look at the amount of people involved in TM. Maybe you are right and it will take an advertising campaign to warn people but it needs doing now cause TM is just one in an ocean of ponzi scams and its worrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bestbud View Post
    This is how Ponzi schemes ruin lives. This guy may never get his money back and now he's in debt for the next 5 years.
    I say this not about Grzesiek but as a general statement on his situation.
    The vicious irony is that his $11k a year earlier would have made him $50k plus and he would be calling us haters.
    Thats what makes a ponzi so hard to slow down until its own momentum via compounding makes it untenable. THEN the haters seem rational.
    "the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"

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