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02-09-2016, 05:56 PM
#1901
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
This weeks caption competition:
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02-09-2016, 06:15 PM
#1902
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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02-09-2016, 06:55 PM
#1903
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Some entertaining comments on his Facebook page under that picture, especially from Neil Knowles. Looks like he's got Charles scamsville a bit tongue tied lol. As a matter of interest why is PayPal still allowing people to make payments into his account when it's suspended? No PayPal, no payza what next? No tm and a flight out of town?
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02-09-2016, 07:30 PM
#1904
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
I've been reading this thread with interest as a mate of mine has been brain washed into investing (loose term) into tm to the tune of 20k and I'm desperately trying to talk him into at least trying to get his money out but to not avail. He's even got another mate interested in buying into it so before he makes the same mistake I'm doing everything I can to persuade him not to. It's a great thread to show him but I have a quick question. I've heard mentioned a few times mmg, what is this? And can I use it to persuade him not to join? Thanks for any help.
G'day Daveyw and welcome to RealScam forum
Please feel free to invite your mate to come join the discussion here.....If he's a legitimate first timer and not a serial ponzi pimp like stacy532 then we won't bite.....
Best you can tell your mate for now is that TM is not paying anymore....So putting money in now is a bad idea...Kinda like betting on your football team when they 0-3 down at half time.....Sure there is a payment made to a member here and there through payza or STP but the wait time for a payment has now ballooned out to 3 weeks.....A sure sign of an imploding ponzi....
Also of note is that just about all the cheer leaders for TM over at MMG with the exception of Stacy have moved on to the next big thing....
I am also noticing less facebook posts about TM....And those who do post are cheering about how their account has grown in their TM back office and not about how they being paid....They just cheering about their "numbers on the screen"....None of it is real because they can't withdraw those "numbers"...
Bottom line is that as a mate the best you can do is inform him that he is depositing money into a dead ponzi....But it's his money and ultimately his decision what he does with it....
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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02-09-2016, 07:35 PM
#1905
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
Some entertaining comments on his Facebook page under that picture, especially from Neil Knowles. Looks like he's got Charles scamsville a bit tongue tied lol. As a matter of interest why is PayPal still allowing people to make payments into his account when it's suspended? No PayPal, no payza what next? No tm and a flight out of town?
Next after paypal and payza is STP(SolidTrustPay).....And Charles already took the flight out of town.....I'd be shocked if Charles ever voluntarily returned to the USA...Can't remember where I read it but it seems he moved out of his house in Utah and it's up for rent....Charles is long gone....and he went to Dubai in the UAE.....There is no extradition treaty between the USA and the UAE....
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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02-09-2016, 07:41 PM
#1906
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
okosh
Kinda like betting on your football team when they 0-3 down at half time
stop it. They'd just need a field goal to tie and touchdown to win. (wacky American football joke)
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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02-09-2016, 07:45 PM
#1907
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Whip
stop it. They'd just need a field goal to tie and touchdown to win. (wacky American football joke)
So just like TM....They need a miracle...LOL....
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02-09-2016, 07:47 PM
#1908
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Great reply there okosh thank you, gives me some ammunition to use. So what your saying is that these people just jump from one scam to the next? Next big thing? What's this? I'm only now realising just how big this all is. My friend who invested 20k I've given up on in fact I'm coming to the conclusion he is either very naive and can't see it or he knows very well its a scam but doesn't care. Sad but what else can it be.
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02-09-2016, 07:49 PM
#1909
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Love that phrase "serial ponzi pimp" lol.
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02-09-2016, 07:52 PM
#1910
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
Love that phrase "serial ponzi pimp" lol.
if they were pushing capt crunch or wheaties they'd be cereal ponzi pimps.
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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02-09-2016, 07:58 PM
#1911
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I walked into that one lol.
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02-09-2016, 08:45 PM
#1912
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
E2014T
Stop posting here and supplying extra traffic. They'll forget all about you and move onto something else.
already have.
Hit me up at the mmg forum
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02-09-2016, 09:17 PM
#1913
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
Great reply there okosh thank you, gives me some ammunition to use. So what your saying is that these people just jump from one scam to the next? Next big thing? What's this? I'm only now realising just how big this all is.
It's all in the post history which can be seen from the pimps profile....
If you visit this page you'll see all the threads which show that serial ponzi pimps "Dr Goddie Ude" and "Ken Russo" and "Michael Colluci" clearly jump from scam to scam to scam to scam....And they both been doing this for like a decade...
And check the dates of when the threads were started and you'll see just how many scams these scumbags have pimped in just the last few months....
http://www.realscam.com/search.php?searchid=166923
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02-09-2016, 11:07 PM
#1914
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Hiya, davey and welcome to REALSCAM.com
To understand what is going on, one needs to look outside the HYIP ponzi "industry" and ignore the rumours and lies which drive it and look at the recent history involving the prosecution of the AdSurf Daily and Zeek Rewards "NEXT BIG THING" HYIP ponzi schemes
* Paypal is a Money Services Business, licensed everywhere it operates.
* It is the largest payment processor in the USA
* As such, it is subject to the requirements of the Bank Secrecy Act:
* The BSA prevents financial institutions from revealing to clients what, if any, actions they have undertaken WRT filing reports
* The BSA requires automatic filing of Suspicious Activity Reports
* FinCEN can, and does, ask financial institutions to freeze accounts subject to SARs to prevent money being transferred offshore before investigation/s have been completed
* FinCEN is a member of the Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force
* The Secret Service, Homeland Security and the Department of Justice are also members of the FFETF, and have lead the recent prosecutions of US based ponzi frauds
Recent history (i.e. the Achieve Community prosecution) indicate a vastly reduced time between investigation/s commencing and prosecution since the forming of the FFETF
The times, definitely are "a changin"
IM(very)HO, anyone who wants to bet on Scovilles' stories being a true representation of what has happened / is happening is in for an extremely rude shock
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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02-10-2016, 12:10 AM
#1915
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
My friend who invested 20k I've given up on in fact I'm coming to the conclusion he is either very naive and can't see it or he knows very well its a scam but doesn't care.
Welcome to the thread.
You'll find out soon enough since the only way your friend will ever see his 20K is by recruiting other suckers. In the interim hide the silver and good whiskey if he comes to visit.
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
As a matter of interest why is PayPal still allowing people to make payments into his account when it's suspended? No PayPal, no payza what next? No tm and a flight out of town?
As Whip pointed out, how do we know it's "suspended" and not flat the F out of money? All we have is the story secondhand from people that promote scams so far as I've seen. Cash in like a roach motel should be of further concern to anyone with the slightest amount of grey matter.
See if your other friend can get to the bottom of the Paypal riddle. I don't mean parroted Youtube jawboning where he pukes back what he was told. Certainly if Paypal will take his money they should be able to give an explanation why they can't pay it back. If he can't get a satisfactory answer from someone with some clout at Paypal why on earth would he want to pony up dime one?
Additionally, there are a few rules if he wants to listen. If not, make a spare cot as he's going to be bunking his broke ass with you for a longggggggggg time after this goes sideways.
1. Endless Chain Recruiting ALWAYS means scam. No exceptions in 2000+++ years.
2. The person you are sending the money to (in this case Scoville) should never have personal access to the funds.
3. An independent entity other than the genius running the program needs to create the account statements.
4. An independent auditor should be willing to sign off on the financial statements before any investment is made.
If you walk your friend through ANY collapsed Ponzi scheme or six it will become apparent pretty quickly these rules had been violated.
Also remember numbers on a screen and payment proofs don't make something legit. ALL Ponzi schemes pay at first that's why the scam works. Also why recruiting is needed to keep Paypal stories from surfacing the ruse alive.
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02-10-2016, 12:13 AM
#1916
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Easy answer ???
You're the one saying it and, with your history, nobody with any sense will believe a word you say
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02-10-2016, 03:50 AM
#1917
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Stacey are you saying you've moved on to the next scheme?
OK guys can you furnish me with a list of these pimps so I know who to believe and who to take with a pinch of salt?
I'm a little shocked cause even I believed that PayPal has been suspended, (noticed the pimp posting hasn't defended the lie about PayPal, why?)
I worked on my mate last night and I think he's started to see it for what it is, one less brainwashed zombie for the scammers to get their class into. I'm loving this forum, I've read so much bs lately it's refreshing to get some truth. I'm gonna contact my other friend today to see if I can get him to query his account and the ponzi account with PayPal and I'll post up anything he tells me.
How much enough for these guys? If they've been scamming for so long they must have access to a huge stack of cash looking at how big tm is.
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02-10-2016, 03:52 AM
#1918
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
It is my opinion that Charles made a deal with PayPal to allow deposits to continue for 30 days. PayPal would not object as they would get the fees and they know there would be a limit on how much he could take out of these new funds He had to do this because if it were known that his account at PayPal had been frozen, all kimshee would have broken out with the members. That would have been alarm bells going off, flashing red lights and a siren wailing screaming TM is not legal as Charles has claimed.
Charles keeps saying his attorney has said TM is not a Ponzi, but he never mentions who his attorney is that supposedly said it. Further more, Zeek had 3 major MLM attorneys all proclaiming that Zeek was not a Ponzi and the Receiver for Zeek ate their lunch and assets literally. His attorney saying it is not a Ponzi is totally meaningless.
Just because he is in Dubai does not mean that if the US Authorities wanted him they couldn't extradite him. It would take longer to do it, but it could be done.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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02-10-2016, 04:22 AM
#1919
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Just because he is in Dubai does not mean that if the US Authorities wanted him they couldn't extradite him.
UAE and U.S. do not have an extradition treaty. Furthermore, if he changes his citizenship from U.S. to UAE, he will be untouchable except by the assassins, and no government in its right mind is going to waste such a resource on anyone but terrorists and own expats who used to have a top secret clearance and later switched sides.
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02-10-2016, 04:57 AM
#1920
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stacy532
already have.
Hit me up at the mmg forum
I'm not on your case, okosh is. I don't have anything against you personally. In all fairness, can't even call you a pimp - since you take care of your downline.
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02-10-2016, 05:05 AM
#1921
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
OK guys can you furnish me with a list of these pimps so I know who to believe and who to take with a pinch of salt?
I suggest you use your own head for thinking instead of asking random strangers on the internet whom to believe and whom not to believe.
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02-10-2016, 05:20 AM
#1922
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Bit harsh don't ya think? I only asked for the known scammers to save me some time trawling through hundreds of pages. What's up? Are you in that list?
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02-10-2016, 05:23 AM
#1923
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
There are thousands of them. It's not their names you need to know, it's how to tell the difference between truth and falsehood, and only you can train yourself to do that.
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02-10-2016, 06:06 AM
#1924
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
If you want to save time, look for techniques, not for names. The niches recycles every couple of years, and if they know what they are doing, you won't know their names anyway, only aliases.
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02-10-2016, 06:20 AM
#1925
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
OK guys can you furnish me with a list of these pimps so I know who to believe and who to take with a pinch of salt?
If you are being solicited on social media or the locker room at your gym think scam. If you hear passive or residual income after you build your sucker list team, think scam.
Find the leader board in any of these "opportunities" and see what previous scams those at the top have pitched. If it's not three or four outright frauds I would be amazed.
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
I'm a little shocked cause even I believed that PayPal has been suspended, (noticed the pimp posting hasn't defended the lie about PayPal, why?)
There's nothing they can say, ask your parrot to defend something. If people asked critical questions and demanded verifiable answers most wouldn't be in this scheme to begin with.
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
How much enough for these guys? If they've been scamming for so long they must have access to a huge stack of cash looking at how big tm is.
You're assuming they're good with money once it's in their hands. Back to the passive/residual income, this is something the super pimps should be able to demonstrate as having in place. More than that, they should be able to furnish a long list of all the others they have helped to achieve this lauded goal. This is after all the dream they are selling for a commission of course.
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