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01-25-2020, 04:31 PM
#11076
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
My problem with the authorities not filing criminal charges stems from is it setting a precedent for future Ponzi's from avoiding prosecution? This was not small potatoes that Charles took in but over $700 Million Dollars. Heck Andy Bowdoin was charged criminally for a $125 Million Dollar Ponzi. Paul Burks took in just over $900 Million and he was charged criminally.
My personal belief is that it makes no difference how big or how small a Ponzi is, it deserves to be criminally prosecuted. The more that are the better the deterrent to stop others from doing it. Just as I have been saying for more than a decade now, if you want these programs to stop, go after the promoters just like the perps running them and it won't be worth taking the chance you are next to be charged.
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01-25-2020, 07:44 PM
#11077
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
My personal belief is that it makes no difference how big or how small a Ponzi is, it deserves to be criminally prosecuted. The more that are the better the deterrent to stop others from doing it. Just as I have been saying for more than a decade now, if you want these programs to stop, go after the promoters just like the perps running them and it won't be worth taking the chance you are next to be charged.
If I was going to steal Ponzi is exactly how I would do it. Hell someone can set up an anonymous website with stock photos in China and get a few idiots to send money by promising outrageous returns. Scoville effectively ran the same scam 15 times with no repercussions, even a few of his victims gave him a mulligan or three. Sad but with that type of gullibility it's hard to protect people from themselves. Who was that fat janitor that used to post here saying Traffic Monsoon was like getting paid to eat a hamburger? Bet he's into something equally questionable by now.
I'm mixed on the cost/benefit for taxpayers of prosecution versus education. Even in cases like TM where a receiver is appointed many victims crow the government is taking their money. Some never file claims, complaints, or seem to learn. In the years that have passed the same people are still pimping the same scams to the same followers.
If the likes of Ari Maccabi and Frank Calabro were serving long prison sentences for promotion I would like to think it would help slow these scams. The same could be said for corrupt stockbrokers and C Suite Charlatans, but we are far away from that day. Former Wells Fargo CEO Jon Stumpf agreed to a lifetime ban from the banking (he's like 100) and a $17.5M fine. Claw-backs aside he walked a shitton more dough than that.
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01-26-2020, 11:26 AM
#11078
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
My problem with the authorities not filing criminal charges stems from is it setting a precedent for future Ponzi's from avoiding prosecution? This was not small potatoes that Charles took in but over $700 Million Dollars. Heck Andy Bowdoin was charged criminally for a $125 Million Dollar Ponzi. Paul Burks took in just over $900 Million and he was charged criminally.
My personal belief is that it makes no difference how big or how small a Ponzi is, it deserves to be criminally prosecuted. The more that are the better the deterrent to stop others from doing it. Just as I have been saying for more than a decade now, if you want these programs to stop, go after the promoters just like the perps running them and it won't be worth taking the chance you are next to be charged.
Not only that but there is a trail of scams from this shitbag. What's worse is the feds know it.
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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01-27-2020, 03:56 PM
#11079
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I've been reading Charles ridiculous letter to the court again and one sentence jumped out:
'The unjust law doesn’t even allow me to defend truth without a lawyer, (but froze assets so I can’t afford a lawyer.)'
Can anyone shed any light on this? If he has no lawyer, what is the process??
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01-27-2020, 06:58 PM
#11080
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
HARRISON
I've been reading Charles ridiculous letter to the court again and one sentence jumped out:
'The unjust law doesn’t even allow me to defend truth without a lawyer, (but froze assets so I can’t afford a lawyer.)'
Can anyone shed any light on this? If he has no lawyer, what is the process??
In a civil case he has to represent himself or go to a legal aid/legal services organization.
It will not be easy: they tend to be very specialized.
For example:civil rights or parents rights.
As far as one specializing in constitution law:
Who is willing to use up the massive resources it takes just to hang in there with the SEC, when on the facts Scamville is as guilty as it gets and has no compelling constitutional issues to litigate?
His ridiculous- "TM/Scamville is NOT under USA court jurisdiction even though Scamville is a US resident who used US banks because it was 75% (or whatever the % was) international members argument has been already laughed out of every level of courts.
"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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01-27-2020, 07:25 PM
#11081
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I do not believe that a civil litigant has a constititional right to an have an attorney provided, only criminal!jmho
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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01-27-2020, 07:52 PM
#11082
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
laidback
I do not believe that a civil litigant has a constititional right to an have an attorney provided, only criminal!jmho
You are right. He only has 2 options. Get an attorney or represent himself. Since he says he can't afford an attorney, looks like he represents himself. But who better? Here's his chance to prove that all these years he has been professing that TM was not a Ponzi but a legal company, this should be a slam dunk for him. He's got 4 years of sayin he was legal and was approved the authorities that he was operating legally. cough, cough
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01-27-2020, 07:53 PM
#11083
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
In a civil case he has to represent himself or go to a legal aid/legal services organization.
It will not be easy: they tend to be very specialized.
For example:civil rights or parents rights.
As far as one specializing in constitution law:
Who is willing to use up the massive resources it takes just to hang in there with the SEC, when on the facts Scamville is as guilty as it gets and has no compelling constitutional issues to litigate?
His ridiculous- "TM/Scamville is NOT under USA court jurisdiction even though Scamville is a US resident who used US banks because it was 75% (or whatever the % was) international members argument has been already laughed out of every level of courts.
Much as I would have enjoyed the prospect of seeing Charles defend himself in court, he's clearly stating that he is unable to do so. Why would he say that? Just think it's an odd thing to say...
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01-27-2020, 09:22 PM
#11084
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Not sure I see what his issue is. No one can explain his biz better than himself right? Or that other jackass with his facebook timeline. lmao!
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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01-27-2020, 09:34 PM
#11085
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Whip
Not sure I see what his issue is. No one can explain his biz better than himself right? Or that other jackass with his facebook timeline. lmao!
I agree, what does Charles have to fear? He has Sunil Patel and William G. Bryant with his FB timeline that they can prove TM is not a Ponzi but a legal company. He can also call Immy Aslam and Stacy Williams to testify on his behalf. I'm sure Sharon James and Anita Langley will also rush to testify for him. He can bring Ari Maccabi back from the Philippines to testify on his behalf and of course Ernie Ganz. So Charles does not need any expensive lawyer with these legal heavy weights on his side.
Last edited by EagleOne; 02-19-2024 at 10:32 PM.
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01-29-2020, 08:56 AM
#11086
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Charles can represent himself, but he cannot represent the corporation. The corporation probably has to be represented by a licensed attorney.
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01-29-2020, 10:56 AM
#11087
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
This per the internet (an indisputable source, right?)
Can a company represent itself in court?
A corporation is a separate legal entity. It's artificial so it can't represent itself. ... In court, a corporation can act only through licensed attorneys. A corporation cannot appear in court by an officer who is not an attorney.
answers.uslegal.com › llc
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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01-29-2020, 01:25 PM
#11088
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The company is under the control/ownership of the Receiver, and has been since the initial hearing. So how would Charles be able to hire an attorney to represent TM when he doesn't own it? It is going to be interesting to see how this all plays out.
EagleOne
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01-30-2020, 05:49 PM
#11089
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
When Charles filed his appeals, he was allowed to have an attorney for TM as they were challenging the legality of the TRO. It was the TRO that turned the company over to the Receiver. Now that his appeals have all been denied, the question remains if he can still have an attorney for TM, or TM is now under total control of the Receiver. When his appeals were exhausted and denied, the original order was confirmed.
Where is Gregg, our resident attorney, when we need him? We need him to clarify all of this for us.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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01-31-2020, 04:01 AM
#11090
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Whip
Not sure I see what his issue is. No one can explain his biz better than himself right? Or that other jackass with his facebook timeline. lmao!
The real issue is that he legally incorporated Traffic Monsoon. He can defend himself all he wants, criminal or civil, BUT he can not defend anyone or anything besides himself, which means his legal corporation needs a real lawyer, it can't defend itself and no one not admitted to practice law can defend anyone but themself.
example # 427,946 of how he stepped on his own dick.
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01-31-2020, 04:04 AM
#11091
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Soapboxmom
Charles can represent himself, but he cannot represent the corporation. The corporation probably has to be represented by a licensed attorney.
Exactly! I should have read further before my last post.
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01-31-2020, 04:08 AM
#11092
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
When Charles filed his appeals, he was allowed to have an attorney for TM as they were challenging the legality of the TRO. It was the TRO that turned the company over to the Receiver. Now that his appeals have all been denied, the question remains if he can still have an attorney for TM, or TM is now under total control of the Receiver. When his appeals were exhausted and denied, the original order was confirmed.
Where is Gregg, our resident attorney, when we need him? We need him to clarify all of this for us.
IANAL I just play one on the intertubez. After he exhausted his appeals in disputing his control of the company, he no longer has any more standing than you or I to speak for the company.
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02-09-2020, 10:46 PM
#11093
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
"To date Scoville has failed to file a response to the suit, prompting the SEC to request an entry of default."
SEC seeks entry of default against Charles Scoville
"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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03-09-2020, 11:02 AM
#11094
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
If you used Solid Trust Pay records for your TM refund claim =take screenshots or make paper copies.
You never know if you may need to resubmit those records.
STP closes forever on April 1st.
Good riddance to these scammer enabling filth.
Important Notice – SolidTrust Pay Closure Effective April 1, 2020 | SolidTrust Pay Corporate Blog
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03-16-2020, 09:10 PM
#11095
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Charles made the big time.
The United States Department of Justice - DRU SJODIN
NATIONAL SEX OFFENDER PUBLIC database.
(Click Here)
Verification
Charles Scoville -failed scammer and child molestor.jpg
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03-20-2020, 12:21 AM
#11096
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Last edited by Fat City, LA; 03-20-2020 at 12:33 AM.
"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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03-25-2020, 02:21 PM
#11097
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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03-27-2020, 01:03 PM
#11098
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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03-28-2020, 02:30 PM
#11099
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Looks like FB took action. Iknow SBM reported him and s did I, as did probably countless others... Love it when a plan comes together...!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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04-04-2020, 12:59 AM
#11100
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Final Judgement As To Defendant Charles Scoville:
The Court has reviewed The Securities and Exchange Commissions Motion for Default Judgement against Charles Scoville and ordered that:
1/ He is prohibited from soliciting, accepting or depositing any monies...from Traffic Monsoon or any buisness model similar to it.
2/...the Defendant is liable for total disgorgement of $2,537,642 payable to the Securities and exchange Commission in 14 days.
3/ If Charles doesn't pay this amount with-in 30 days The Commission can move for Civil Contempt.
4/ A civil penalty has also been imposed on Charles but the amount isn't specified.
Its been a long time coming... ������������
The Final Judgement can be read here:
TARA TALKS
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