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08-12-2016, 10:22 PM
#5476
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
My dad is almost as big as me but is a strawman argument attempt and a very weak one but a predictable one .. Keep up the great work your awesome..
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08-12-2016, 10:22 PM
#5477
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stacy532
So you're saying that he can not purposely bankrupt the company paying people to click on ads? But a real business as you call it can bankrupt the company legally by having too many expenses and or employees to pay and tgats all perfectly fine?
" As long as irs is getting their cut "
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No, I'm saying the documentation Charles David Scoville provided to the SEC proves to anyone with the slightest business acumen that Traffic Monsoon was a Ponzi.
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08-12-2016, 10:25 PM
#5478
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
LOOK, over there,
There's a child throwing peanuts at the elephant in the room
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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08-12-2016, 10:41 PM
#5479
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
On the second day God said consider a chargeback my son...
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
It's hopelessly embarrassing how little these pimps comprehend, anyone that has faith in them getting this one right are going to be seriously disappointed. Scoville is no longer in charge of refunds people, if Ronnie understood the first thing he would save that drooling for the receiver's Facebook wall.
http://www.realscam.com/f11/ronnie-b...-scammer-4470/
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08-12-2016, 11:11 PM
#5480
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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08-12-2016, 11:14 PM
#5481
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I really thought this idiot would be done by now.
I tell you emphatically that this is the END of those evil doers, we must Apprehend and prosecute them accordingly.
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08-12-2016, 11:18 PM
#5482
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Gina
I really thought this idiot would be done by now.
Nah, stacy will be over on one of the usual suspect HYIP forums metaphorically hgh fiving his fellow ponzi pimps and bragging how successfully he can throw peanuts
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08-12-2016, 11:24 PM
#5483
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
It's really quite astonishing. Seems Charles is deleting anything negative from his Facebook page.....as if that matters at this point
I tell you emphatically that this is the END of those evil doers, we must Apprehend and prosecute them accordingly.
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08-12-2016, 11:30 PM
#5484
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Gina
It's really quite astonishing. Seems Charles is deleting anything negative from his Facebook page.....as if that matters at this point
Yep,
Perhaps now people can start to understand just why it takes so long to complete a prosecution like this.
Somewhere there are screen shots of all of Scovilles' online activities since the investigation/s began
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08-12-2016, 11:40 PM
#5485
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I so want to volunteer to take these hearings in Utah. What's the next date? Anyone know?
I tell you emphatically that this is the END of those evil doers, we must Apprehend and prosecute them accordingly.
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08-12-2016, 11:49 PM
#5486
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Gina
I so want to volunteer to take these hearings in Utah. What's the next date? Anyone know?
The preliminary injunction hearing was rescheduled for September 23 following a joint representation from the SEC and Scoville
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08-12-2016, 11:53 PM
#5487
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
stacy532
Like I said I still don't believe it's a Ponzi scheme the SEC can say it is nobody has to agree with them do they... have not found one piece of paper that says anybody has to agree with anything they say.. they are saying that he has to prove that he has enough money to pay for his expenses today tomorrow and the future but that he cannot make sales to make that happen didn't make much sense to me... to me it looks like they're saying if he cannot print money he can't run a business
This yokel Stacy is a comedian.
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"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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08-13-2016, 12:00 AM
#5488
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
LOL! Stacy is still sticking up for this criminal. Unbelievable!
I've never been to Utah, but I'm thinking end of September will be lovely.
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08-13-2016, 12:41 AM
#5489
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I just noticed Charles is not letting anyone comment on his Facebook page, How weird!!! What the......what??
I tell you emphatically that this is the END of those evil doers, we must Apprehend and prosecute them accordingly.
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08-13-2016, 01:16 AM
#5490
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
This keeps getting better and better.
Always worth revisiting:if they are not investors=they get no $ if TM restarted. (unless Charles Shitville showed his generosity)
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08-13-2016, 01:36 AM
#5491
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Forget about being investors,
The most important thing you're "NOT" is in the right country.
If you're really, really quiet, you can hear the entire SEC staff laughing uproariously. as they read about a group of angry ponzi players and victims protesting on a beach far, far away in a protest organized by a group of serial ponzi pimps.
Geez, I hope it rains buckets.
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08-13-2016, 01:37 AM
#5492
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The dipstickery continues.
If you DONT want TM to be classified as an investment.
Maybe its not a great idea to have "WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF PEOPLE HOLDING ONTO OUR ADVERTSING PROFITS"
On your protest sign...... These hayseeds are like something out of a Monty Python skit.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
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08-13-2016, 01:40 AM
#5493
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
Who the hell wrote this? It sounds a bit like Sharon to me. And where did judges refusing to take the case some from?
I believe it was Pinakee Naik.....saw something almost identical in the comments section of the Funded Justice site, written by "Pin". Pretty sure that's Pinakee.
Incidentally, wasn't he in Banners Broker as well? Isn't it funny how many of the bigger players were?
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08-13-2016, 01:47 AM
#5494
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
stacy posted this at EMS the latest from Charles. Talk about a broken record, and I quote:
"Traffic Monsoon is not selling an investment. On Traffic Monsoon's website, there is only the sale of ad service.
Knowing that the website is not offering any investment plan whatsoever, would make the buyers of any service on traffic monsoon customers, not investors.
There is no offer for interest rates. There is no guarantee of income. There is no indebtedness. By sheer definition, Traffic Monsoon truly is not an investment. The website gives the buyer clear expectations; outlines the services offered. The website and videos produced by Charles Scoville clearly describes the ad services being offered, and openly advises the potential customer that their purchase is in no way, shape, or form an investment.
If something communicated by the company as not being an investment to the potential buyer, then the company is clearly advising the buyer their purchase holds no definition which would match an investment. The buyer cannot possibly expect the purchase to be an investment, and couldn't possibly expect returns because they are told up front their purchase is for ad service, and not an investment.
When ad services are purchased on traffic monsoon, the buyer also agrees to the terms of service. Agreement to the terms of service is part of the sign-up process. No customer could purchase anything without first agreeing to the terms of service. The customer agrees that when they are buying a service on traffic monsoon, that when they buy service on traffic monsoon they are buying an ad service and not making any investment. They cannot expect any returns. They also agree to a no-refund policy. The company has made sure to provide clear expectation to the buyer that they are ad service customers and not investors.
The services sold on traffic monsoon create a profit margin. Like any business, there is cost for delivering the service provided by Traffic Monsoon. When a customer spends their money on ad service the company receives that money and is able to use that money to purchase ad services on external advertising websites for an amount less than what the customer had paid to traffic monsoon.
The problem that traffic monsoon faced is a paypal limitation. The money that customers paid for services provided the ad service credits on these customers accounts, but that money was held by PayPal temporarily for 180 days. While PayPal held onto that money, it couldn't be used to purchase the services on external websites to deliver the services the customers had paid for. The amount of money from new sales couldn't possibly purchase the services sufficient to deliver all the services paid for by customers while PayPal withheld that money from Traffic Monsoon.
One way the company delivers the services paid for is incentivizing customers. People who have purchased adpacks on traffic monsoon are invited to click on ads and get paid money for surfing. If Traffic Monsoon is paying for advertising services to be delivered on external websites, why not pay for the traffic to be delivered by its own customers? Money spent on ad services to be delivered is being paid to the people who are helping deliver that service to the buyer. Does this mean that a customer who buys an adpack would always be able to get paid for surfing ads? No. Traffic Monsoon doesn't pay a customer forever for clicking ads. Is it set to a time frame that they get paid for clicking on ads? No. Traffic Monsoon's website simply said that when these clickers reach $55 in earnings from clicking other people's ads, they will not be paid anymore for surfing ads in the traffic exchange. The $55 is reached because money spent by the buyer of the services is being paid to the people who are delivering the services.
Since the traffic delivery on external websites could truly be met within the business model, the math in the way things work, and the profit margin would provide the company profits, Traffic Monsoon (Charles Scoville) is simply being generous by giving those profits to the customers who are helping deliver the services paid for by other customers.
This is not an investment where interest rates promised -- or returns which are promised -- are given to earlier investors by the investment of later investors. There is no guarantee of return. No guarantee of income. However, it is more accurately stated that the money spent on ad services by customers is paid to people who are providing a service to traffic monsoon. Sales for service might not happen, and the company provides clear expectation to the buyers of adpacks that the money available to give them for clicking ads depends on the purchase of services by customers, and cannot possibly be considered as an investment. It's a purchase of ad service. Buyers are customers, not investors.
PayPal's limitation also caused the company to be unable to pay what people had earned. This caused several people to believe Traffic Monsoon is a scam, and unable to pay what people have earned. People who have earned money selling the ad services couldn't get paid either. This limitation crippled the business because not only could the services not be purchased through external websites, but people clicking on ads and selling the services to earn commissions couldn't be paid."
"Yes Charles we know for the 3,000+ time you have preached this mantra. I guess if you think if you keep saying it that it will somehow come true. Talk about delusional. Charles you are now embarrassing yourself by keeping repeating this nonsense.
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08-13-2016, 01:55 AM
#5495
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I don't understand , why people are still defending tm & cs he says nothings is his fault...its all PayPal and sec... he made the decisions in the company , so it's his fault he made those decisions. Simples ..... everyone is still going on tm will be back blah blah blah..... are they missing the main point... yes cs can say there is enough money to pay everyone, he has provided no proof of this, but he has given company and personal accounts to sec.... They produced the figures in court document , where it clearly states only 0.4% of rev came from other add services the rest from ad packs, so someone tell me how anyone can think tm will be back, maybe back to fleace you some more by way of bogus donations or tm plus .... It will still be the same the ones at the top survive the ones at the bottom don't
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08-13-2016, 01:56 AM
#5496
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Forget about being investors,
The most important thing you're "NOT" is in the right country.
If you're really, really quiet, you can hear the entire SEC staff laughing uproariously. as they read about a group of angry ponzi players and victims protesting on a beach far, far away in a protest organized by a group of serial ponzi pimps.
Geez, I hope it rains buckets.
That's the August Bank Holiday weekend. It's in the UK. The chances of rain are high.
I hope there's a real good downpour.....almost like a tropical monsoon. Love to see them all like drowned rats.
But whatever the weather, it will be an absolute hoot.
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08-13-2016, 02:03 AM
#5497
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Is Scamville ghost writing the next 'Harry Potter' novel ?
What a wonderful tale of fantasy he has produced.
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
stacy posted this at EMS the latest from Charles. Talk about a broken record, and I quote:
"Traffic Monsoon is not selling an investment. On Traffic Monsoon's website, there is only the sale of ad service.
Knowing that the website is not offering any investment plan whatsoever, would make the buyers of any service on traffic monsoon customers, not investors.
There is no offer for interest rates. There is no guarantee of income. There is no indebtedness. By sheer definition, Traffic Monsoon truly is not an investment. The website gives the buyer clear expectations; outlines the services offered. The website and videos produced by Charles Scoville clearly describes the ad services being offered, and openly advises the potential customer that their purchase is in no way, shape, or form an investment.
If something communicated by the company as not being an investment to the potential buyer, then the company is clearly advising the buyer their purchase holds no definition which would match an investment. The buyer cannot possibly expect the purchase to be an investment, and couldn't possibly expect returns because they are told up front their purchase is for ad service, and not an investment.
When ad services are purchased on traffic monsoon, the buyer also agrees to the terms of service. Agreement to the terms of service is part of the sign-up process. No customer could purchase anything without first agreeing to the terms of service. The customer agrees that when they are buying a service on traffic monsoon, that when they buy service on traffic monsoon they are buying an ad service and not making any investment. They cannot expect any returns. They also agree to a no-refund policy. The company has made sure to provide clear expectation to the buyer that they are ad service customers and not investors.
The services sold on traffic monsoon create a profit margin. Like any business, there is cost for delivering the service provided by Traffic Monsoon. When a customer spends their money on ad service the company receives that money and is able to use that money to purchase ad services on external advertising websites for an amount less than what the customer had paid to traffic monsoon.
The problem that traffic monsoon faced is a paypal limitation. The money that customers paid for services provided the ad service credits on these customers accounts, but that money was held by PayPal temporarily for 180 days. While PayPal held onto that money, it couldn't be used to purchase the services on external websites to deliver the services the customers had paid for. The amount of money from new sales couldn't possibly purchase the services sufficient to deliver all the services paid for by customers while PayPal withheld that money from Traffic Monsoon.
One way the company delivers the services paid for is incentivizing customers. People who have purchased adpacks on traffic monsoon are invited to click on ads and get paid money for surfing. If Traffic Monsoon is paying for advertising services to be delivered on external websites, why not pay for the traffic to be delivered by its own customers? Money spent on ad services to be delivered is being paid to the people who are helping deliver that service to the buyer. Does this mean that a customer who buys an adpack would always be able to get paid for surfing ads? No. Traffic Monsoon doesn't pay a customer forever for clicking ads. Is it set to a time frame that they get paid for clicking on ads? No. Traffic Monsoon's website simply said that when these clickers reach $55 in earnings from clicking other people's ads, they will not be paid anymore for surfing ads in the traffic exchange. The $55 is reached because money spent by the buyer of the services is being paid to the people who are delivering the services.
Since the traffic delivery on external websites could truly be met within the business model, the math in the way things work, and the profit margin would provide the company profits, Traffic Monsoon (Charles Scoville) is simply being generous by giving those profits to the customers who are helping deliver the services paid for by other customers.
This is not an investment where interest rates promised -- or returns which are promised -- are given to earlier investors by the investment of later investors. There is no guarantee of return. No guarantee of income. However, it is more accurately stated that the money spent on ad services by customers is paid to people who are providing a service to traffic monsoon. Sales for service might not happen, and the company provides clear expectation to the buyers of adpacks that the money available to give them for clicking ads depends on the purchase of services by customers, and cannot possibly be considered as an investment. It's a purchase of ad service. Buyers are customers, not investors.
PayPal's limitation also caused the company to be unable to pay what people had earned. This caused several people to believe Traffic Monsoon is a scam, and unable to pay what people have earned. People who have earned money selling the ad services couldn't get paid either. This limitation crippled the business because not only could the services not be purchased through external websites, but people clicking on ads and selling the services to earn commissions couldn't be paid."
"Yes Charles we know for the 3,000+ time you have preached this mantra. I guess if you think if you keep saying it that it will somehow come true. Talk about delusional. Charles you are now embarrassing yourself by keeping repeating this nonsense.
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08-13-2016, 02:15 AM
#5498
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
Who the hell wrote this? It sounds a bit like Sharon to me. And where did judges refusing to take the case some from?
Leanne Curran apparently. Haven't seen the original screen shot but it was sent in as a quote. These people are barmy. No, I take that back, they're 'brainwashed'. The Ponzi Cult has struck again.
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08-13-2016, 02:43 AM
#5499
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
HARRISON
Leanne Curran apparently. Haven't seen the original screen shot but it was sent in as a quote. These people are barmy. No, I take that back, they're 'brainwashed'. The Ponzi Cult has struck again.
Are you saying it was posted at TaraTalks? Their barmy and brainwashed, a dangerous combination. Charles has also been posting rubbish again this morning, he's doing a good job of following his lawyers advice.
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08-13-2016, 04:12 AM
#5500
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
HARRISON
Leanne Curran apparently. Haven't seen the original screen shot but it was sent in as a quote. These people are barmy. No, I take that back, they're 'brainwashed'. The Ponzi Cult has struck again.
That was written by a TM member? Seriously? It sounded like a parody spoof of what has been happening, and I thought it was really funny. Talk about needing medical help.
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