Thread: Robert Neklewicz a.k.a. "Vegas Bob"

This Bob sure does make some outrageous claims....

CONSIDER A MONEY TREE A SAVINGS SAVINGS PLAN....BUT IT HAS A CHANCE TO EARN 10% WEEKLY WHICH DOUBLES YOUR SAVINGS IN 84 DAYS!

CONSIDER A MONEY TREE AN INVESTMETM PLAN...STARTED WITH A FEW BUCKS BUT HAS A CHANCE TO MAKE YOU RICH!

CONSIDER A MONEY TREE A SMALL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY OR HOME BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY TO PRODUCE EXTRA MONTHLY INCOME!!!

And his picks are not cheap....$150 per month.....Only a fool would pay this....

I CHARGE ONLY $40.00 FOR MY 20+ BEST PICKS FOR THE WEEK OR ABOUT $2.00 PER SELECTION. MY PRICES ARE SO LOW THAT SMALL BETTORS DO NOT NEED TO MAKE EVERY WAGER OR WAGER EVERY DAY....JUST WAGER DURING THE WEEK WHEN YOU WANT AND YOU WILL STILL MAKE MONEY AND HAVE FUN EVERYWEEK.

I ALSO HAVE A MONTHLY PROGRAM TO REDUCE PAPERWORK, YOURS AND MINE. FOR $150.00 MONTHLY, YOU RECEIVE THE SAME 20+ BEST PICKS PER WEEK PLUS EXTRA PICKS WHEN AVAILABLE THRU AN EXTRA EMAIL OR TWO. AND IF I SEE SOME LOW RISK OPPORTUITIES DURING THE WEEK FOR A 3-TEAM OR 4-TEAM OR 5-TEAM OR 6-TEAM OR 7-TEAM OR 8-TEAM PARLAYS I BRING THEM TO YOUR ATTENTION. A 6-TEAMER PAYS 40 TO 1 AND AN 8-TEAMER PAYS 150 TO I. THERE ARE ADVANTAGES TO PAYING MONTHLY!

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Boy there is an old wives tale for you....just do it yourself....it just takes a little time and effort. Oh do the sportsbooks like to hear this, just more pigs will go slaughter and go broke.
The average player needs plenty of help, they will never have enough time to keep up with all there is to learn, never in a hundred years. The issue is being able to or lucky to find people who can help us win.

You do not need guys like Vegas Bob, you know what you are doing. But we would go broke following your 4 rules. But we need Vegas Bob, he makes us money and his fees are incredibly low....the lowest we have ever seen. We will be sticking with him for a long time.

We use Vegas Bob and two other sports services because they do help us with everything including saving us time, money management and making us money....more money than we have ever made before. But it took us a few years to find these folks.

Please, do not tell us that we are not being helped when in fact we are being helped. Please do not tell us we are being taken advantage of when we are very happy with the services. We have no complaints....none....not one.

Hmmm, kind of makes you wonder how much Vegas Bob "PAID" for that endorsement.

Considering that he also advertised that same ad in Atlanta, Georgia, the fraud I waned you about before has continued, theUSCGuys.
Namely, the law against sports wagering across state lines.

And considering the consistency of his "wins" I'm starting to suspect that he's running a Ponzi here, paying investors off with money from other investors. That's just a hunch, mind you, without definite evidence like I have of his violations of the Wire Act.

You know... I may just drop all this in the hands of the IRS via Form 3949-A, and let the tax men make sure that all of Bob's clients are paying what they owe on what they earn from him. The numbers he's claiming are high enough that the proper tax forms ought to be being filed for each winner. Why don't I do that and make sure that they are?

This sportswagering business that you so dislike has been around for about a 100 years and is now booming all over the world. Recent growth has come from "Fantasy Sports" and future growth will be fueled by technology. It is impossible to halt the growth, it is easier to tax it.

Vegas Bob, Don Best, Jim Fiest, Covers and EOG and 50,000 other guys have sportsbetting websites but none have investors or any type of Ponzi schemes because none of them ever get the investment money, that money goes to the sportsbooks all over the world, 200 of these are in Las Vegas.

We pay Vegas Bob a few bucks per month to teach us the sportswagering business, to help us stratigize and for his advice, consulting and suggestions for daily wagers to keep our Money Trees, Progression Plays and over-the counter wagers winning rather than losing. Tonite I paid Vegas Bob $10, he told me to wager on Indiana in college basketball. I am at Ceasar's Palace so I wagered $1100 to win $1000. I expect to win. The result will be...Vegas Bob gets $10, I win a $1000 and Caeser's Palace loses $1000. That's how it goes everyday and that is not a Ponzi scheme. You either win or lose, my pocket has cash or is empty. We use guys like Vegas Bob and Sportsinvestors to keep us winning. Fortunetly for Caesar's Palace Sportsbook, most people lose lose lose which makes Caesar's management very happy.

Sportsbooks do provide us with all necessary tax documents which we file with our returns.

Since you are so concerned about a Ponzi Scheme, why don't you fix the one which is hurting all of us everyday.....our screwed up Social Security System.

If you are looking for schemes and scams just start with Taxation Policy at the White House and State Houses. You will find hundreds of taxes that are just scams to generate revenue. They are destroying our country..

our screwed up Social Security System.

If you are looking for schemes and scams just start with Taxation Policy at the White House and State Houses. You will find hundreds of taxes that are just scams to generate revenue. They are destroying our country..

Well, well, well,

now we KNOW, with absolute certainty there's something illegal going on WRT Robert Neklewicz a.k.a. "Vegas Bob.

When people start with the tired old "Social Security is a ponzi" argument to justify their behaviour, there's no need to look any further for evidence of wrongdoing.

Mr "USC student" is conveniently forgetting to point out that Prof Higgins has repeatedly explained he is talking about Robert Neklewicz a.k.a. "Vegas Bob ACCEPTING SPORTS BETS ACROSS STATE LINES IN THE UNITED STATES.

Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

ProfHenryHiggins

Re: Robert Neklewicz a.k.a. "Vegas Bob"
The problem isn't that he's doing sports wagers, theUSCguys. It's that he's doing it in a fashion which itself illegal, over email, phone, and Internet. And having viewed his ads, he is soliciting additional clientele via the Internet, which violates the same law.

His email ads also violate FTC guidelines on financial claims and personal testimonials, if you look up the changes that went into affect in 2009.

Lastly, he has a prior securities fraud matter on his court record. What do they teach out there at USC about legal matters?

http://www.realscam.com/f8/robert-ne...927/#post12817

Now, if "the USC guys" want to argue the law is wrong, unjust or silly, that's a completely different matter for a completely different time and completely different forum.

However, as things stand it IS the law and Robert Neklewicz a.k.a. "Vegas Bob is breaking it.

theUSCguys,

Must you yell? It is obvious you are losing the debate here lads, but screaming over your opponents isn't winning you any points, so cut it out. Save the big and bold for something nice any juicy, will you.

Soapboxmom

TheUSCguys will never tolerate all this stupidity. Jim Fiest, Don Best, Phil Steele, Marc Lawrence, Vegas Bob and others never never never never never never never accept money....not one dollar for making wagers across anyline anywhere....how stupid can you be! However, for a service fee, they will teach you how to wager and suggest wagers for you to make anywhere in the world without violating anything....the technology has just passed you by. The sportsbooks are developing the technology and the instruments and giving them to the players like me to use to make the wagers.

I made a $1000 tonite legally with their (Vegas Bob) help...it only cost me $10.00. I had dinner while I was waiting for my wager to win. So I am supposed to stop trying to make extra money for my family because of your "wacko" advice. Never. Please stay out of my wallet!

And you know very well that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that needs to be tweaked before it collapses. Only a fool would conclude that Social Security is performing as constructed. The people on Social Security need a raise, but they may now get one every 5 years instead of every year......there's a scam for you....go fix it!

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

theUSCguys,

Must you yell? It is obvious you are losing the debate here lads, but screaming over your opponents isn't winning you any points, so cut it out. Save the big and bold for something nice any juicy, will you.

Soapboxmom

Take it easy on the poor child, Mom.

It appears he has a vision impairment and can't see what he's typed unless it's bold.

I can't imagine a "law student" would think using a large, bolded and/or coloured font would enhance his argument, so a vision impairment seems the most likely reason for its' continued usage, in which case he deserves our pity and not our criticism.

As for the "social security is a ponzi" argument, talk about stretched logic.

We don't even have to get into an discussion as to whether Social Security IS a "ponzi"

Capital punishment is legal in Texas, I believe.

Does that make it OK for Texas citizens to murder people ??

Does the US Constitution have a "tit for tat" clause ??

i.e. "The government does something with which I don't agree, therefore I can break the law too"

Who knows, maybe they teach "Nonsense 101" in law schools now.

Originally Posted by theUSCguys

TheUSCguys will never tolerate all this stupidity. Jim Fiest, Don Best, Phil Steele, Marc Lawrence, Vegas Bob and others never never never never never never never accept money....not one dollar for making wagers across anyline anywhere....how stupid can you be! However, for a service fee, they will teach you how to wager and suggest wagers for you to make anywhere in the world without violating anything....the technology has just passed you by. The sportsbooks are developing the technology and the instruments and giving them to the players like me to use to make the wagers.

I made a $1000 tonite legally with their (Vegas Bob) help...it only cost me $10.00. I had dinner while I was waiting for my wager to win. So I am supposed to stop trying to make extra money for my family because of your "wacko" advice. Never. Please stay out of my wallet!

And you know very well that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that needs to be tweaked before it collapses. Only a fool would conclude that Social Security is performing as constructed. The people on Social Security need a raise, but they may now get one every 5 years instead of every year......there's a scam for you....go fix it!

A word of advice, but I doubt if you will take it. My grandfather told me "it is one thing to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

Is English your second language, or is Prof. Higgins using too many big words for you bright college kids to understand? In case he is, have you heard of a dictionary? Do you know how to use one? If not, then what are you doing in college besides taking up space and wasting your parents money? Please don't tell me you are on scholarship. If so they need to revoke it immediately.

Very funny.

Now if Vegas Bob isn't accepting money, why is he advertising and soliciting for people to come wager with him?
Why do his emails to those who respond to his ads include statements about unnamed individuals making X dollars from Y investment amount that they sent him?


As far as these others you name, well, I could contact them and point out how this thread is dragging their names through someone elses' mud. Or I could investigate them and report irregularities.

Jim Feist apparently has a bad rep even in Vegas itself:
any expierence with jim fiest - MajorWager Forums
http://www.ctd.uscourts.gov/Opinions....Valentine.pdf
HMW: MATT THOMAS AND JIM FEIST: A REAL "ODD COUPLE" (PART 2) - MIKE IN DA - 9-15-11

Nice history of fraud and bad business practices there.


Now, either play nice and honor Soapboxmom's reasonable request as the site moderator here, or I may have to say something blunt and to the point.
One might also do well to remember that governments often write loopholes in laws, allowing them to do things not otherwise permitted to
their citizens, or granting specific exemptions to a business they support. Case in point: Monopolies are illegal in the United States of America, with
one notable exception. Major League Baseball was granted immunity from the anti-trust act.
In a similar vein, Social Security, being a government-run program, is exempt from laws against schemes of the kind that Charles Ponzi made famous.
That doesn't assure anyone that it is well-run, however. Recall the time when the US government tried to run a whorehouse in Nevada.

Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins

Very funny.

Now if Vegas Bob isn't accepting money, why is he advertising and soliciting for people to come wager with him?
Why do his emails to those who respond to his ads include statements about unnamed individuals making X dollars from Y investment amount that they sent him?

The simple answer is that he offers for the punters to give him access to their money(via the money tree method) and he will place the bets for them.....This is for the lazy punters....
Of course one can just pay the $150 per month and then place the bets themself after getting the email with the picks....

With those who pay the $150 knowing the bets b4 they are made I would doubt that he is running a ponzi scheme....
JMO of course....

Originally Posted by theUSCguys

You do not need guys like Vegas Bob, you know what you are doing. But we would go broke following your 4 rules. But we need Vegas Bob, he makes us money and his fees are incredibly low....the lowest we have ever seen. We will be sticking with him for a long time.

Rubbish!!....$150 per month is not cheap....It's top price you paying there....

Of course I know what I'm doing...That's why I make profit from it....
You too can learn....I'll teach you....And I'll do it for free....

A couple more simple rules to help you win....
Never bet in the first 3 weeks of the season.....You got no form to go by....You throwing darts at the board....

From the half way mark of the season onwards if you bet only on favorits you'll win 75-80% of the time....That's better then Bob's 60% target....

How hard is it to look up a teams previous performance at the venue they playing at this week??....All teams go on the road so look up this info and you halfway there to picking the winner....

It's not rocket science...Just use your brain....

Originally Posted by theUSCguys

We use Vegas Bob and two other sports services

This is where your argument falls flat on it's face....

If Bob is so wonderful and he makes you all this money then why the need for 2 others just like him??????????.....

Here is another FREE lesson for you....
Limit how many games you bet on per week.....If you bet on every game you are bound to lose....
In Aussie football there are 8 games per week....I bet on no more then 3 of them....

And never chase big odds....You'll lose more times then you win....
Football is a 2 horse race....If the sportsbook got one of the teams at $3 or more for a dollar then they done this for good reason....Sportsbooks are not stupid....They know what they doing...
Be happy with $1000 on a team paying $1.20 for a dollar which gives you 20% or $200 profit....Not bad return in 2 hours!!!
If team A is at $1.20 then team B will be over $3 and you'll be lucky if the team at $3 wins 1 in 10 times....

And don't stick to the one sportsbook....You can often improve your return by 5% or more if you shop around....

Originally Posted by theUSCguys

I made a $1000 tonite legally with their (Vegas Bob) help...it only cost me $10.00. I had dinner while I was waiting for my wager to win. So I am supposed to stop trying to make extra money for my family because of your "wacko" advice. Never. Please stay out of my wallet!

You're a typical mug punter.....You'll tell the story of your wins to anyone who'll listen but you never tell of the days you did your arse

Originally Posted by Perry Mason Jnr

Since you are so concerned about a Ponzi Scheme, why don't you fix the one which is hurting all of us everyday.....our screwed up Social Security System.

One wonders why the (presumably) high priced lawyers for Bernie Madoff didn't try the "Social Security is a ponzi" defense during such a high profile trial.

Perhaps they didn't/don't have the benefit of a USC Lawschool education.

I must admit, though, I find it slightly disappointing that such self proclaimed well educated defenders of illegal activities stooped to the level of the lowest newbie HYIP ponzi stooge with the Social Security/taxation red herring argument and oversized, coloured and bolded fonts.

Still, that's the state of modern education, I guess.

Vegas Bob is more than wonderful but "Come-on Man" you know why we need others. One, we wager in soccer and Vegas Bob does not offer service in soccer. Also, sometimes we need a selection and we can not make contact with one service so you need to call others. Last night we called SportsInvestors about the Laker-Clipper game, they had no opinion so we called Vegas Bob and he said do a parlay for $500....Steelers 2nd half under 17.5 and LA Clippers. I did, but for $1000 and won $2400!

I am sure your rules work for you, they are good rules but we need much more help than your rules.. There are 7 guys in our group now, we have a huge bankroll and wager thousands of dollars per day.

Vegas Bob should increase his fees, they are way too low. He charges a onetime $150 fee for the first month. Then 2 to 5% of our monthly profit and if no profit, then no fee. Currently if I make $20,000 for the month, he gets $400, I get $19,600, seems fair to me considering SportsInvestors cost us $1495 per month just for soccer! Then I put extra cash in the bank and my banker insults me by paying 1% annual. So Vegas Bob helps me on the frontend and my banker screws me on the backend. There is another scam for you guys...our banking system!

I am glad you are making money your way....and theVegasguys will continue to make money our way...with the help of guys like Vegas Bob, SportsInvestors and Krackerman etc.

Am I ticked off? You bet I am ticked off watching our country self-destruct and enter a path to becoming a very poor 3rd world country with no middle class and no future....with everybody leaning on the government for a few crumbs!
I just hope you do not have kids that are going to have their dreams shattered in the next few years.

And it all could have been avoided if we would just solve the problems as they arise. But the new way to solve problems is to avoid them, push them to the next generation and try to solve them only after they become a "crisis". Very soon that won't work either because there won't be any money to fix anything! You won't have to worry about getting a yearly raise in social security....there won't be any annual raises for anybody.

We

Originally Posted by theUSCguys

Vegas Bob is more than wonderful but "Come-on Man" you know why we need others. One, we wager in soccer and Vegas Bob does not offer service in soccer.

Soccer??....We covered this in our first lesson....It was rule #1....Never bet on a 3 horse race....
Do I need to make you stay back after class and write 100 times, "Only shmucks bet on a 3 horse race"??....

Last night we called SportsInvestors about the Laker-Clipper game, they had no opinion so we called Vegas Bob and he said do a parlay for $500....Steelers 2nd half under 17.5 and LA Clippers. I did, but for $1000 and won $2400!

That's that Simon guy who claims to be related to Lefty Rosenthal??....And you believe him??....That guy is worse then Bob and that's saying something....

For those wondering....Lefty is the charector played by Robert Deniro in the movie Casino....

I am sure your rules work for you, they are good rules but we need much more help than your rules.. There are 7 guys in our group now, we have a huge bankroll and wager thousands of dollars per day.

And they can work for you as well.....Heck, if I had your bank roll and lived in your time zone I'd be looking at sports arb bets....Find a good one and that would be worth paying for....

Vegas Bob should increase his fees, they are way too low. He charges a onetime $150 fee for the first month. Then 2 to 5% of our monthly profit and if no profit, then no fee. Currently if I make $20,000 for the month, he gets $400, I get $19,600, seems fair to me considering SportsInvestors cost us $1495 per month just for soccer!

Are you serious or was that a typo?????

I am glad you are making money your way....and theVegasguys will continue to make money our way...with the help of guys like Vegas Bob, SportsInvestors and Krackerman etc.

etc????.....Exactly how many of these people are you paying????

Please stop preaching...we know what we are doing and do not appreciate your criticism and preaching.

You do it your way and we will do it our way and we will all be happy and profitable.

Originally Posted by theUSCguys

I am sure your rules work for you, they are good rules but we need much more help than your rules.. There are 7 guys in our group now, we have a huge bankroll and wager thousands of dollars per day.

That sounds like you're addicted to gambling. Haven't you seen how easily addictions can ruin a family by now?

I don't know about anyone else but I am seriously concerned about the USC's education facility, Especially the Law section. I had no idea that they had fallen this low. Are you sure you guys are in California and not in South Carolina where the education system ranks in the bottom 10 in the US?

I have been sportswagering for 25 years made over 50,000 wagers and I have a huge bankroll. I am at the point where I consider my activity sports investing, not gambling. Table games and slot machines are gambling activities to be avoided.

Sadly, the stockmarket and real estate markets now have become become "gambles". Job losses and 401k stockmarket losses and homeownership equity losses are now destroying peoples lives a 1000 times faster than traditional addictions. And you can look right to Washington and find the useless human beings who have caused all this misery with no hope in sight.

Originally Posted by theUSCguys

I have been sportswagering for 25 years

WOW !!

And, yet, you're still at USC ???

Amazing education system they have there in the USofA.

Originally Posted by theUSCguys

yada,
yada,
yada.

That's as may be.

BUT,

Robert Neklewicz a.k.a. "Vegas Bob" is STILL breaking US federal laws by conducting sports betting over state lines and people STILL risk prosecution and/or the loss of their money by utilizing his services across state lines.

We can talk about Social Security being a ponzi, politicians being lazy, courts being ineffective, systems being corrupt and Santa Claus being a figment of childrens' imagination all day long.

The facts still remain the facts and "the USC guys say it's OK" makes no difference in the real world.