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    Eh? Who was the original author of that piece, EagleOne? And where was it posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    Eh? Who was the original author of that piece, EagleOne? And where was it posted?
    JustBeenPaid - justbeenpaid.com

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    It is easy to file a complaint to IC3 about this scam and it doesn't require standing either. All it takes is a few minutes of ones time and it's all done on line.

    Link:

    Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home

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    Let's explain about what the US can and can't do when it comes to having jurisdiction regarding investment opportunities.

    If an investment program offers investments to just one US Citizen, US laws and regulations must be adhered to and followed. It makes no difference where the company/program is domiciled (located), they still must comply with US securities laws. That is the requirement of the SEC.

    It is a myth that being offshore, in cyber space or in a galaxy far, far away, the US laws don't apply. The US had extradited dozens of people who were running an illegal Ponzi outside the borders of the US to stand trial. In fact, extradition proceedings are underway for Peter Roor (Pedro Dispenza online moniker), who is a Dutch National, and his wife to stand trial here in the US.

    The same is true for most other western countries, so this nonsense that because JBP operates on the Internet makes them exempt from securities laws in the US, or in other countries, is all bunk, a myth and a lie.

    Every HYIP program and non-HYIP Program admin tries to make this bogus claim. Just because the gullible and the players in these programs accept it as being true, does not make it true.

    So much for I'm offshore or in space somewhere so the laws don't apply to me mantra.
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    Another one who gets it, and this is from the MIN forum, which is now closed for failure to pay hosting fees:

    January 31, 2012
    Braden @ 3:32 pm
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    I have been in JBP since May of last year and I have earned over 30k. The rumblings you are hearing are about the last restart. This is a feature where the program restarts once the obligation to pay becomes greater than the money coming in. When this happens the positions that earn daily (short term) are converted into matrix positions (long term). Your daily earnings decrease, but your overall portfolio increases in value. The issue people had is the last restart came sooner than people were expecting. I for one love the restart feature; much rather take a hit on my daily earnings than have the program disappear.

    And that my friends is a classic definition of a Ponzi. The only problem with his logic is that Fred Mann will not keep doing these restarts for very much longer. People are beginning to learn that they indeed lose money every time one is done, and as each one is done they will continue to lose even more. But for the claim this is sustainable indefinitely using this formula is hilarious.

    Fred knows the longer he tries to keep his Ponzi running, the greater chance he has of the authorities moving in. So he will only do this a couple more times at best before he runs with the money. Unless of course the feds move in first. No doubt the clock is ticking, and it remains to be seen who punches the timeclock first.
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    Now all the major pimps of JBP/JSS have claimed this is a legal program. Of course it is not registered anywhere, but it is still legal. So if this is such a legal and upstanding program, why do they insist upon these two clauses:

    6. I affirm that I am not an employee or official of any government agency, nor am I acting on behalf of or collecting information for or on behalf of any government agency.

    7. I affirm that I am not an employee, by contract or otherwise, of any media or research company, and I am not reading any of the JBP pages in order to collect information for someone else.

    in their membership agreement? Hmmm, now why do you suppose that is?

    I think Fred should become our Treasury Secretary, and handle all the US investing so we could end our national debt in just 2-3 years. Then we could get Greece, France, Italy, Germany, or any other country for that matter to join also. Why with all the money these countries could infuse into his program, world debt would be eliminated in 2-3 years. Yet he doesn't want anyone of them participating. How narrow minded of him.
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    HeHeHe,

    Don't ya just love those "membership agreements" ??

    Ya gotta laugh, though.

    Can you imagine Freddy Mann or his sycophant, MoneyMakingBrain fronting up in court and saying:

    "I object to this witnesses' statement, Your Honour.

    He signed the membership agreement certifying he isn't a reporter or Government agent, and he told a dirty rotten lie.

    The defense moves he should be sent to the naughty corner"


    What a lot of poppycock.
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    As well as the obvious questions,

    The other question nobody has yet answered is: how is "Frederick Mann" able to produce 2% per day interest WITHOUT fraud being involved..
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post


    As well as the obvious questions,

    The other question nobody has yet answered is: how is "Frederick Mann" able to produce 2% per day interest WITHOUT fraud being involved..
    Oh that's an easy question. The answer is HE CAN'T. 100% impossible, never been done (or even close) and never will be.

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    Damn, buy a premium membership and wait "35 days" at the tail end of a HYIP ponzis' life, I DON'T THINK SO:

    Only newbies would think of "investing" new money at this late stage.

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    Sigh,

    remember the good ol' days of Just Been Paid, when it was all so simple ???

    2% per day. No hoops to jump through, no "restarts" no need to continually pay more to "upgrade"

    I'm tellin' ya, anyone who sends money off to Frederick Mann now had better kiss it goodbye BEFORE they send it,

    'cos they sure as eggs won't be seeing it again. Not in this lifetime, at least.

    Anyone missing all the hints and clues being put out there really deserves to lose their money now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post


    Sigh,

    remember the good ol' days of Just Been Paid, when it was all so simple ???

    2% per day. No hoops to jump through, no "restarts" no need to continually pay more to "upgrade"

    I'm tellin' ya, anyone who sends money off to Frederick Mann now had better kiss it goodbye BEFORE they send it,

    'cos they sure as eggs won't be seeing it again. Not in this lifetime, at least.

    Anyone missing all the hints and clues being put out there really deserves to lose their money now.
    LOL, it is looking like their going to have to rename this from "JustBeenPaid" to JustBeenPhuqued...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    LOL, it is looking like their going to have to rename this from "JustBeenPaid" to JustBeenPhuqued...!
    JustBeenLAID? lol
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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    I couldn't decide whether to post this in the Just Been Paid thread or the When times are tough, HYIPs become more ridiculous thread

    Which is more ridiculous ??

    2% per DAY interest

    OR

    a HYIP ponzi promoter claiming he will now, or will ever, be able, to pay out $1 MILLION

    OR

    the B/S membership claims:

    JSS-Tripler now has 306,677 members -- having grown by just over 12,000 new members during the past 48 hours

    Still, I suppose desperate times call for desperate measures.

    Freddy is obviously desperate.
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    Guess they want to get in on this list:

    The 10 Nastiest Ponzi Schemes Ever | Business Pundit
    The King of Get Rich Quick, Charles Ponzi became a millionaire in six months by promising investors 50% return in 45 days on international postal coupon investments. He earned $15 million, which in 1920s terms was serious money. After Ponzi was caught, investors only received $5 million back.

    Nastiness Factor: Mythical. This ancestor of fraudulent men passed his name on to the many schemes that would follow his own. His legacy, and his scheme, are forever memorialized, earning them a unique Nastiness Factor label.

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    The pressure is building for a restart. The amounts he is having to pay out is getting too much for him to keep this going much longer without one; or he just runs with the money.

    He will be lucky if he makes it to the end of this month before he has to pull the plug claiming it is a restart. The longer he runs this, the more he knows the authorities could be closing in on him. What will be most interesting to see is if he does shut it down claiming a restart and instead just disappears. The CONSOB shut-down was a warning shot, and there is no doubt he is worried other countries won't be far behind.

    It has now reached critical mass, and that's when these go bye-bye, or the feds raid. The next few weeks are going to be interesting indeed.
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    Patrick Pretty's latest! Patrick is the best!

    SPECIAL REPORT: Hollow Claim: Caller Brings Up AdSurfDaily Ponzi Prosecution In JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid Conference Call; Frederick Mann Tells Affiliates Operating In United States That ‘We Don’t Have An Office In The U.S.’
    By PatrickPretty.com 6:41 pm Mar 17, 2012

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    SPECIAL REPORT: Hollow Claim: Caller Brings Up AdSurfDaily Ponzi Prosecution In JSS Tripler/JustBeenPaid Conference Call; Frederick Mann Tells Affiliates Operating In United States That ‘We Don’t Have An Office In The U.S.’

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    Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain


    irrelevant, rationalizing, justifying nonsense


    Any further off topic posts while be similarly dealt with

    Please remain in your own rubber roo......thread
    Last edited by littleroundman; 03-18-2012 at 05:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain View Post
    And that link is one the reasons this crackpot forum was set up. And how can we forget Eagle, right Lynn?

    MMB

    Reason it was set up? Are you now claiming that mortals can time travel, MMB? Because I would call you a liar if that were the case.
    2012 is later than 2010.

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    Originally Posted by MoneyMakingBrain


    irrelevant, rationalizing, justifying nonsense

    Any further off topic posts while be similarly dealt with

    Please remain in your own rubber roo......thread
    Last edited by littleroundman; 03-18-2012 at 05:49 PM.
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    As I've said before, I am neither Lynn nor Patrick, nor am I an Australian.
    One would think that you would grasp the concept of cities and counties, not to mention states, having a population rather than singular, Borg-like inhabitants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    As I've said before, I am neither Lynn nor Patrick, nor am I an Australian.
    One would think that you would grasp the concept of cities and counties, not to mention states, having a population rather than singular, Borg-like inhabitants.
    It is rather apparent that he has no grasp on anything.....!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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