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Originally Posted by littleroundman

What's with all these fraudsters and their threats of suing for slander/libel/defamation all of a sudden ???

Sounds like young "Detecht" might have grown some over the Christmas break and wants to join in:

NAH. Detecht/time4change/peakr8 is just doing the obligatory strutting and puffing before he moves on to the next excuse...!

The latest Horse,,,,,, I mean update.

UPDATE!


As of immediate effect, I have suspended ALL future deposits using Alertpay. This will be opened up again once I am handed control of the future alertpay deposits. Once Alertpay has been added again, there will need to be a period of non-withdrawal (possibly 15 days) while we build up funds again. Once we have sorted out the account transfer of the past funds, these will be added and FULL AP withdrawals will resume.

We are now approaching the final hours that Chris has been given to respond positively to the situation. There has been no response.

I will be pursuing legal action to get full control of all the past transactions and funds. I have enough weapons in my arsenal to get this done easily in our favour.

SimpleFreeWeb.com

We are now the proud owners of My link Which is a free website hosting solution, giving members free cPanel web hosting on an unlimited use basis. This website seems to be tremendously successful and is bringing in a very good income. This will allow us to have our websites hosted on currently 6008 websites and rising daily.

All traffic is organic and it is getting around 35,000 unique visitors per month. We have plans to increase this by a lot. We also plan to open up many of these websites and it will give members the opportunity to promote and earn via their own referral links.

We will keep you updated on this.

SUBSCRIPTIONS.

Some members will have been experiencing some strange anomalies with their subscriptions. Please ignore these for now, it is all occurring because we currently have 2 database tables that the subs are being handled from. In a week or so, we can delete one of these tables and everything will run smooth. Please do not send in a support ticket unless you have been debited twice.

Also.... I am receiving notifications that a lot of members still have NOT cancelled their subscriptions with alertpay or STP.... As a result we get a whole load of support tickets complaining that they have been billed twice... I forget just how much publicity we have given to getting this message across. This is taking up way too much of our time to put this right. So we are giving everyone one month to cancel their subscription, after that, we will NOT refund the double credit, as we have to have someone on support almost full time to deal with this, and that person needs to be paid. maybe when it starts costing people money, they will get the message to cancel.

Happy New Year to all the members and their families.

Dave

Originally Posted by baylee

The latest Horse,,,,,, I mean update.

UPDATE!


As of immediate effect, I have suspended ALL future deposits using Alertpay. This will be opened up again once I am handed control of the future alertpay deposits. Once Alertpay has been added again, there will need to be a period of non-withdrawal (possibly 15 days) while we build up funds again. Once we have sorted out the account transfer of the past funds, these will be added and FULL AP withdrawals will resume.

We are now approaching the final hours that Chris has been given to respond positively to the situation. There has been no response.

I will be pursuing legal action to get full control of all the past transactions and funds. I have enough weapons in my arsenal to get this done easily in our favour.

SimpleFreeWeb.com

We are now the proud owners of My link Which is a free website hosting solution, giving members free cPanel web hosting on an unlimited use basis. This website seems to be tremendously successful and is bringing in a very good income. This will allow us to have our websites hosted on currently 6008 websites and rising daily.

All traffic is organic and it is getting around 35,000 unique visitors per month. We have plans to increase this by a lot. We also plan to open up many of these websites and it will give members the opportunity to promote and earn via their own referral links.

We will keep you updated on this.

SUBSCRIPTIONS.

Some members will have been experiencing some strange anomalies with their subscriptions. Please ignore these for now, it is all occurring because we currently have 2 database tables that the subs are being handled from. In a week or so, we can delete one of these tables and everything will run smooth. Please do not send in a support ticket unless you have been debited twice.

Also.... I am receiving notifications that a lot of members still have NOT cancelled their subscriptions with alertpay or STP.... As a result we get a whole load of support tickets complaining that they have been billed twice... I forget just how much publicity we have given to getting this message across. This is taking up way too much of our time to put this right. So we are giving everyone one month to cancel their subscription, after that, we will NOT refund the double credit, as we have to have someone on support almost full time to deal with this, and that person needs to be paid. maybe when it starts costing people money, they will get the message to cancel.

Happy New Year to all the members and their families.

Dave

But didn't alertpay pull the plug on them anyway? And why would there be a need to 'build up funds'? Since they claim this isn't a ponzi (lol), aren't the funds building right now from their outside revenue stream (lol again) anyway? There should be funds laying around since no one's been paid. lol.

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Dave, Dave ...

I have absolutely ZERO interest in the spat between you and and some guy named 'Chris'.

That is a situation that YOU must deal with and get straightened out.

I don't want 'Chris' phone number nor his home address and I definitely will not be pursuing him legally.

If I purchased JeeJeeBees from Corporate Entity A and Corporate Entity A is not owning up to what was promised,
then the buck stops with Corporate Entity A.

If Corporate Entity A has a bonehead partner, Vice President or CEO or Board of Director member,
I could care less about that. Corporate Entity A is fully responsible.

Just as you wrote in one of your emails, Dave./ You said that you are 100% responsible. And, there I agree 100% with you.

I truly find it unnecessary to continue to get the members involved in your business relationship with 'Chris'.

Whatever it takes, David. Just get it done. Updates would be great but Chris drama serves no purpose.
And whether he goes to jail or not does absolutely nothing for me nor the membership, Dave.

You are the guy in charge here.

I joined T2.

Dave, you are the only representative of T2 that I know.

So, dear, get it DONE!

And yes, this is my OPINION.

Happy New Year

Faith Sloan

Originally Posted by Whip

But didn't alertpay pull the plug on them anyway? And why would there be a need to 'build up funds'? Since they claim this isn't a ponzi (lol), aren't the funds building right now from their outside revenue stream (lol again) anyway? There should be funds laying around since no one's been paid. lol.

Excellent point! One I didn't think of!

if I were a troll like you guys I had better stuff to post.
You guys are really dumb and stupid :P

Originally Posted by strosdegoz

if I were a troll like you guys I had better stuff to post.
You guys are really dumb and stupid :P

And....and.....and......my dad's bigger'n your dad......and......and......and.......you're scared of spiders.......so HUH !!

Originally Posted by strosdegoz

if I were a troll like you guys I had better stuff to post.
You guys are really dumb and stupid :P

Hey Stros...Nice to see you....How's the scamming business going??.....You and Ken Russo kissed and made up yet???

Now I got it after reading it several times.

Actually I went to Mount Everest and bought two cases of chocolate while cooking the chicken!!!???

Originally Posted by okosh

Hey Stros...Nice to see you....How's the scamming business going??.....You and Ken Russo kissed and made up yet???

Is Carl Haarvarlden from Adlandpro still making videos for you? Or is he still promoting those dodgy matrices like Fortune 2x2 for Roger the Lodger to hawk on Adland What a plonker?

Great points made about the irrelevance of infighting and who is doing what to whom and who is to blame when there is trouble in paradise

if it wasnt for the irony that the post quoted was made by the queen of ponzi pushers herself, the one and only...............................

I joined T2.

Dave, you are the only representative of T2 that I know.

So, dear, get it DONE!

And yes, this is my OPINION.

Happy New Year

Faith Sloan

LOL

Ya oughta see what is going on over there now! The T2 MMG thread has been locked, except when mmgcjm unlocked it to claim innocence and do a PA on "ElmerFudd". The the attacks at the T2 HQ forum are running rampant, but since the attacks are from supporters and mods it's okay! Hypocrisy is alive and well in ponziland...!

Well they just unlocked thread at MMG for a little while as long as posters play nice.

This is better than any soap opera. It is funny to watch the members going after each other, and they thought us naysayers, negative people were bad.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Well they just unlocked thread at MMG for a little while as long as posters play nice.

This is better than any soap opera. It is funny to watch the members going after each other, and they thought us naysayers, negative people were bad.

Well, it would seem that Dave aka peakr8 aka detecht can't handle truth. A member of his forum pointed out that allowing a mod to engage in personal attacks was not appropriate and that member is now banned.
Here are some of the exchange:

[quote name='t2cjm' timestamp='1325605668' post='14113'] (Note: t2cjm is mmgcjm, mod in both T2 and MMG)
Thanks for helping to clear that up Dave.

I honestly can't believe how quickly people believed 2 OF THE MOST WORTHLESS, USELESS, VINDICTIVE SCUMBAGS AROUND!!!!!! BAYLEE AND
ELMERFUDD are 2 of the most worthless "investigators" on the internet. Do not believe anything they say! Do your own research and
DON'T jusmp to conclusions or shoot your mouth off before you have decisive, clear evidence!

wgunn- I am certainly glad to see the forum rules here being followed, especially by someone whose job it is to enforce similar rules on
another forum!!! I guess character is who you really are when you don't think someone is looking!

View PostYourBallyHoo, on 03 January 2012 - 09:36 AM, said:
It's a ridiculous argument when you are taking someone's good name who is 100% transparent as Chris Morrell versus someone hiding
behind a cartoon character mask. It's like me saying Mickey Mouse is a cheating rodent. Surely people are wise enough to see the
difference here.

wgunn-That's fine, YBH, Elmer made a mistake. It still does not excuse name calling and personal attacks, especially buy a mod! If anybody
came in here and called anyone those things they would likely be banned, but since he's a mod or program supporter he gets a pass?
Being in a position of responsibility requires better emotional control than that.

From the T2 forum....

That is exactly why I have to control the withdrawals from AP funded accounts.

Chris has NOT got any control over the money, alertpay has.

Also, There are still enough funds available for building income streams in the STP and LR accounts. So really we are only dented, not totally knocked over.

We alrerady have some money coming in, so that means we are officially NOT a ponzi.

This time next year, everyone will be singing a different tune altogether.

We alrerady have some money coming in, so that means we are officially NOT a ponzi.

Is this true??....I thought that even if there is some outside money it is still a ponzi if they use new members money for payments.
Or have I got it wrong??

Originally Posted by okosh

Is this true??....I thought that even if there is some outside money it is still a ponzi if they use new members money for payments.
Or have I got it wrong??

Doesn't matter in the T2 forum whether it's true or not, if you call them on it you will likely be banned like wgunn was when he(she?) pointed out they were breaking their own rules.
Per wikipedia, "
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from their own money or the money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation."
It would seem that if ANY money from investors is used for payouts it is a ponzi. Peakr8 inadvertantly admitted that it IS a ponzi by verifying that money was stuck in AP and not invested to produce income.

peakr8 and whatshisname are just throwing things out there to take members minds of how much trouble t2 is in. Lawsuits, money tied in in AP for who knows how long, and the hoopola that a member must jump thru to change payment processors if needing to change from the frozen AP to a different payment processor for withdraw and the required 80% rule of fresh money for changing the processor that a member can withdraw from.
They need to get members thinking of other things as soon as possible.

Originally Posted by okosh

Is this true??....I thought that even if there is some outside money it is still a ponzi if they use new members money for payments.
Or have I got it wrong??

No, you have it right. Notice they didn't say that they have outside, legal, verifiable money coming in. Guess I should have made that clearer for them for when they come here to read. I'm sure the queen crippler will be back to explain it all thoroughly.

Originally Posted by okosh

Is this true??....I thought that even if there is some outside money it is still a ponzi if they use new members money for payments.
Or have I got it wrong??

The most long term "successful" ponzis are those which DO have "outside sources of income"

For example, if the ponzimaster invests most of the money at normal bank interest rates, then adds a couple of percent to the interest rate the ponzi is offering, made up from members' money, he can extend the life of the ponzi greatly, with the added bonus of giving the scam more credibility, the longer it runs.

That way, the old maxim "if it looks too good to be true, it probably is" doesn't necessarily apply.

If you look closely at the Madoff scam, that is precisely how he managed to fly under the radar for so long. The returns he was offering were higher than normal, not outrageously so, but high enough to attract some solid, respectable institutional investors, which in turn gave his fund added credibility

His interest rates were not so high as to raise too much suspicion, because he WAS investing some of his clients funds, albeit in low return, low risk investments, and was only returning a few percent higher than average interest rates.

Unlike your average HYIP ponzi game, which depends entirely on members money and offers extremely higher than normal returns, of necessity ALL of which come from members.

The most long term "successful" ponzis are those which DO have "outside sources of income"

Glad you made that point. There are far too many people that think that ANY outside income legitimizes a pònzi. What they fail to understand is that the outside income has to be sufficient to cover ALL their liabilities to their members, not just a small part. Added to that, any absence of real product or service still lands most of them in the category of selling unregistered securities.

What people sometimes fail to see is that, if you can make enough money legally to meet all the liabilities of a high yield ponzi, you probably have the requirements to succeed in a real business and could most likely raise your capital legally through a bank and forget starting a ponzi. So to have "outside income" financing a ponzi is a contradiction in concepts anyway. No honest businessman is going to raise capital by starting a ponzi.

A further point worth mentioning is the fact that it is virtually impossible for a ponzi master to go "legit" using the proceeds of his/her ponzi and satisfy the demands of the victims of the original ponzi.

Bryan Marsden of P.I.P.S. fame is a prime example.

Marsden and his wife purportedly bought a fashion business and several coffee shops during the heyday of his HYIP.

But they simply could not sustain the kind of payouts needed to keep P.I.P.S alive, no matter how successful the legit businesses were.

Specialty retailers and general merchandisers -- department stores -- were the most profitable sector of the retail economy in 2009, according to "Fortune"magazine, with a 3.2 percent average profit margin. Food and drug stores operated on a 1.5 percent margin. That year, automotive retailers posted losses, with a -7.9 percent profit margin, although the previous year, they operated on an average margin of 1.1 percent.

What Is a Good Retail Profit Margin? | Small Business - Chron.com

Double or triple the "average" profit margin and you STILL couldn't pay out HYIP ponzi rates.

Not to mention the funding of his legal enterprise with monies gained through his illegal one!

Seems our T2 admin freakr8/detecht/oh-never-mind, has hit upon a new way to suck in traffic, keep it "positive" and create a bunch of paid tattle-tales at the same time

Earn mega-bucks for simply socializing in the T2 forum.

Did you know that you can make in excess of $0.20 a post and even more if it is really interesting. Did you know that the forum average No of replies per new topic is 15? That means you can earn around $0.20 per new topic, when T2s earned are traded in for free DPs.

Here is a breakdown of how many $T2s you can earn.

Points per topic = 20
Points per reply = 10
Points to Topic Starter per reply = 5
Points Per Positive Rep (giver) = 3
Points Per Positive Rep (receiver) = 5
Points Per Negative Rep (giver) = 3
Points Per Negative Rep (receiver) = -5 (yes... minus

Note that he'll give 3 points for a negative report AND subtract 5 points from the person reported...WTF is that a preschool class over there???