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    It looks like he hid out in his private forum to blame MMG for his problems.
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    CLOSED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE!!

    DUE TO INCESSANT UNDERMINING BY THE STAFF AND A SELECTION OF 'STAFF ASSISTED' MEMBERS OF MONEYMAKERGROUP.COM
    He doesn't get it(they never do) that the success or failure of a program is solely the responsibility of the program admin...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    It looks like he hid out in his private forum to blame MMG for his problems.

    He doesn't get it(they never do) that the success or failure of a program is solely the responsibility of the program admin...!
    Of course he did. Now he's a full blown whiney ****. Hilarious.

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    As has been pointed out at another forum by his own members:
    I got an email from Yippee some months back. Included in it was one line I will never forget.

    Elmer and his friends will NEVER be banned from MMG, the owner wants them there. To create 'interesting discussion'.

    My kids found this doing a search about T2MK... The youngest is 9 years old, the oldest is 13... they cried.

    Hope you feel great about that Elmer and friends.. Hope you all feel great!!

    I am closing both programs down as of NOW, and i will leave it to the processors to distribute the funds.
    This post is total BS. His kids found an email from Yippee while doing a search on T2MK...??? Really??? Yippee said that Elmer and his friends would never be banned??? HUH??? WTF is this guy smoking? Or has he been exposed to MMB?
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    As has been pointed out at another forum by his own members:

    This post is total BS. His kids found an email from Yippee while doing a search on T2MK...??? Really??? Yippee said that Elmer and his friends would never be banned??? HUH??? WTF is this guy smoking? Or has he been exposed to MMB?
    This admin will go into the Ponzi Hall of Fame excuses Section of the Handbook. I think it ranks right up there with the "Coma" excuse that St Nick used.

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    Boy!!! The T2 thread on MMG is one hot SOB today...!
    @baylee. Yep, gonna have to publish a new edition of the Scammer's Handbook to include the new excuses Davey boy came up with. I wonder when or who he will come back as for the next "opportunity"...?
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by path2prosperity View Post
    ISpy is not a guy LRM. ISpy is female. She is also known as Sydney. Sydney and the notorious Mutt were two of Kent Black's mods. (his favourites.) Sydney has seen a lot more than most pimps including some of the inner workings of Kent and Nickers Smirnows organisations. If Sydney is a poacher turned gamekeeper, I will eat my hat!
    Judy, you are wrong. ISPY is a male; I know him personally. He lives in the next state over from me. He is a veteran of this industry, been burned many times, and is an enemy of scammers, ponzis, and pimps.

    The Sydney that you are talking about was ispy4u (or something like that) at Kent Black's forum, and yes, she was female. The ISPY at MMG got his username from the old tv show; he posted that there, and I knew it before he posted it.

    I am a regular reader of MMG, though I don't post there. It might help you to do some reading before you post inaccuracies.

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    Well, it now seems that Dave has had a change of heart yet again. He changes his moods and mind more than a yo-yo. But here is the latest that is said to have been posted on the private forum for T2 that was copied and pasted at MMG:

    Hi T2MK Members.

    Just a quick update to confirm that even with the recent dramas surrounding both programs. I have decided that nothing is really going to change.

    I have reopened C150 and I have processed all pending withdrawals there. All daily credits have been updated so everything is on track there.

    At the moment, not so many members have updates their info on their T2MK profiles, we NEED this information to sort out payouts as quickly as possible.

    This is how the system works....

    Members requesting 100% withdrawal and partial withdrawals will be processed first from smallest amount owing to largest amount owing. IN STRICT ROTATION!

    Members wishing to remain in 100% will have their position 'skipped' in favour of those withdrawing.

    Members who who are withdrawing but have not yet chosen their preferred processor to pay to will be skipped.

    Members who have not yet chosen their option on their restart summary page will be skipped.

    All payments of processed members will be credited to the member's main account and will show in their 'transactions' page as 'Restart Payout'..

    We are going through the list of 2600 members in the above fashion, at the moment we are in the region of 1200th position in the list. Once we reach the end of the list, we will enable the withdrawal button.

    Members requesting 100% out will have their accounts closed as we process the payment to their chosen processor.

    We will then go back to the start of the list and go through it again, processing payouts of the members who were late submitting their processor and restart options.

    We will continue cycling through the list until we have been through it 5 times. Any member who has not chose an option or put in their processor choice will be deemed to be remaining 100% in the program.

    Once a member has made their restart option choice IT CAN NOT BE REVERSED. As this would create logistical problems with the payouts, as it is dependent on what processor is requested and how much is requested. We need to know where we stand with the accounts at ALL times.

    FUTURE OF T2MK

    I am considering options for the future of T2MK. I have several avenues available to me that would all be very beneficial to the members and the program as a whole. Once I finish thinking them all through. I will update members and hopefully spark a discussion.

    I am also working on things to improved the profile of the MNF forum. It is my intention to make MNF a force in this industry. I will be approaching the biggest and the best leaders in the industry with regards to implementing some very useful areas.

    This will be in a separate email update. So stay tuned.

    C4C

    CashForComments is underway and things are improving. We will put it on the same servers as the website stock that will be worked on and this should clear up some of the niggling bugs that members were experiencing when they were putting it through its tests. Once again thanks to the members for taking the time to do the tasks, it has been essential to the future of the programs.

    I would also wish to thank all those who supported me during the past few days. These are the people who are actually responsible for keeping these programs going, and to all those who fought my corner in the other forum. *I would also like to apologize for any distress caused to members during that dark period.

    Onwards and forever upwards.

    Now there are a few things that makes me wonder if Dave really did post this. One is he sounds civil, rational and logical; none of Dave's characteristics, and it is not signed by Dave. It is possible the person who C&P'd the content didn't copy his signature, but still this seems so out of character for Dave that we have seen in the past few weeks.

    Anyone who is dumb enough to stay on board with this deserves everything they get. They would have to be as delusional as he is. This guy is either on drugs, bi-polar or both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne
    Anyone who is dumb enough to stay on board with this deserves everything they get.
    That's the whole point, though.

    Nobody has had any choice in the matter since this whole sorry saga began.

    There's nothing anyone CAN do.

    Call it what you like, "restart" "round 2" "processor problems" "dengue fever" "infinitely sustainable" or whatever, Dave/Peakr8 has the money and isn't giving it back.

    These days, there's a vast difference between what HYIPs are "supposed to do" and how they're "supposed to work" and what actually happens.
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    With as many times as Dave has switched directions, why would anybody believe anything he says? @ Lynn, yeah I kinda wondered if it is him also. It sounds kinda like him in his more lucid moments but some areas make one wonder... He must be perverted and sadistic to put his members through the constant turmoil. Gotta love the part about, "biggest and best leaders in the industry!" What freaking industry? The Scam Industry???
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    It would seem that Davey is quite devious. It is beginning to appear like he intentionally made the closed announcement to drive T2 to the closed folder. When it was mentioned that he did not announce in the other scam (C150), he went there and announced. Then his update announced that C150 was reopened and T2 was being rethought. Meanwhile he may have threatened members with expulsion if they post in MMG. Remembering that he has a mod that also mods for MMG, he has a "mole" so to speak. Speculation, but hey, with this guy, anything is possible. Also notice he has lurked in the T2 thread without posting.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    For some time now I have been wondering if there weren't two Dave's. It seems we have the good Dave and the bad Dave.

    When he first started posting here about his program, he did not fly off the handle when challenged about his claims. Then when the program launched, we saw a new Dave at MMG totally different from the Dave we saw here. Either the guy is bi-polar, Schitzo, or there are two different people posting as Dave.

    Even if he wanted T2 put in the closed folder it still doesn't stop people from posting. It also does not make it disappear from rankings either. He may have been hoping by having it moved to the closed folder no-one would bother posting, but I don't see that happening any time soon. Especially if those who opted out continue not to be paid. They will definitely keep posting until they do, or they finally give up after a few months that it's not happening.

    Others thoughts on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    For some time now I have been wondering if there weren't two Dave's. It seems we have the good Dave and the bad Dave.

    When he first started posting here about his program, he did not fly off the handle when challenged about his claims. Then when the program launched, we saw a new Dave at MMG totally different from the Dave we saw here. Either the guy is bi-polar, Schitzo, or there are two different people posting as Dave.

    Even if he wanted T2 put in the closed folder it still doesn't stop people from posting. It also does not make it disappear from rankings either. He may have been hoping by having it moved to the closed folder no-one would bother posting, but I don't see that happening any time soon. Especially if those who opted out continue not to be paid. They will definitely keep posting until they do, or they finally give up after a few months that it's not happening.

    Others thoughts on this?
    I'd say what Barney Fife said about Earnest T. Bass on the old Andy Griffith show: "He's a nut!"

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    Personally, I'd be more inclined to believe none of it's true, it's ALL part of the fantasy scenarios that make up the world of HYIP ponzis.

    What does anyone REALLY know about the whole JSS/T2 saga ??

    Anyone actually met "Dave" face to face ???

    Can anyone prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt "Dave" really exists or that "Dave" is "peakR8" ??

    That either one of them IS in Thailand / got married / had Dengue fever ??

    Prove JSS/T2 existed, other than in "Daves" mind ???

    What would be different today if "someone" had made the whole thing up and simply run a good, old fashioned HYIP ponzi "game"

    How would the outcome be any different ??
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    Fresh poop from Dave....
    Hi T2MK Members.

    Just a quick update to say that the first cycle of the restart payouts is complete.

    If you were in the first cycle, then your withdrawal request amount will be waiting in your main account balance. Enter your dashboard HERE.

    If your balance is zero, then it is one of the following reasons.

    You did not choose your option in your restart page.

    You did not input your processor info.

    The processor account you chose maxed out before getting to you in the queue.

    You were skipped because of a bug in the chosen processors of your account (more below).

    Please do not panic or complain. You are all in the queue, and you will all receive what is due. Remember, it is pretty much unprecedented that a program admin is doing this, when most would rather skip town with the remaining money (as the vast majority know all too painfully).

    WITHDRAWING YOUR MONEY.

    The withdrawal button is now live in your main account area. Please allow up to 48 hours, although I will try to keep on top of them. There is no withdrawal fee, and no minimum withdrawal amount.

    BUGS

    There was a bug pointed out by a few members regarding the default processor for payouts and some STP processors were inadvertently marked as AP by the system. This has now been sorted out, and the little few members have been moved to 'priority' in cycle 2. My coder is sorry for that.

    The AP and STP funds are currently at 'exhaustion point' apart from funds reserved for C150 payouts. AP exhausted rather quickly as many members using AP seem to want to pull out of it. Also because of the $60,000 they are holding for 180 days which will start to unlock in a few weeks.

    I am also pushing money from the income streams straight into AP and STP to cover cycle 2.

    If you have not yet chose your option or input your processor details into you dashboard, then you won't be in any cycles. I only queue members for payouts who conform to the above criteria.

    There is a delay in the new C4C site as we need to do a bit more dynamic coding so we can include forums and social networking sites in our webstock portfolio, as these are the hottest sellers on flippa.

    I am also in the middle of having a new site build using a different coding company. There will be more details on this in the next day or two.

    T2MK REDIRECTING TO FORUM.

    In a bid to get more members caught up on the 'goings on' in the program, I have set both the jsstripler2 and T2MK domains to redirect to an 'intermediary page' on this forum where it will have some useful links to your dashboard as well as helpful areas in MNF.

    FINALLY.

    I would once again like to thank all our members for their continued support and patience in this torrid time. For those staying with us, you will not regret your decision. I have great plans, I know my mistakes and have learned from them, and I am determined to give you everything I have said.

    I will be the first to agree that I can be quite a controversial figure in this industry, but I do respect the members, and to me, that is the most important thing. By doing these payouts, I am showing my respect to you.

    For those who receive their payout amount and have their withdrawal processed to their processor. Please take the time to post your payment proof and shut up some of those naysayers.

    Thank You.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopey Dave
    If your balance is zero, then it is one of the following reasons.
    1) You didn't jump through enough hoops.

    2) You didn't stand on your head in the corner munching water crackers while simultaneously juggling and whistling the theme tune from The Sting.

    3) There's no money left to pay anyone, other than a chosen few who have promised to post on all the forums to make it look like refunds are being paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Judy, you are wrong. ISPY is a male; I know him personally. He lives in the next state over from me. He is a veteran of this industry, been burned many times, and is an enemy of scammers, ponzis, and pimps.

    The Sydney that you are talking about was ispy4u (or something like that) at Kent Black's forum, and yes, she was female. The ISPY at MMG got his username from the old tv show; he posted that there, and I knew it before he posted it.

    I am a regular reader of MMG, though I don't post there. It might help you to do some reading before you post inaccuracies.
    Very sorry but I have just seen your post. I was not in any of Fred Mann's programs and I do not look at this thread very often.

    You may be right about the fact that ISpy and ISpy4U are different people. Sydney got most of the data she used for Kent Black from MMG and I read MMG very thoroughly when I was following her activities. If there is a male ISpy who is a genuine scam buster, of course I will apologize profusely.

    It would help if the man would contact me directly and we could get to know one another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by path2prosperity View Post
    Very sorry but I have just seen your post. I was not in any of Fred Mann's programs and I do not look at this thread very often.

    You may be right about the fact that ISpy and ISpy4U are different people. Sydney got most of the data she used for Kent Black from MMG and I read MMG very thoroughly when I was following her activities. If there is a male ISpy who is a genuine scam buster, of course I will apologize profusely.

    It would help if the man would contact me directly and we could get to know one another.
    Actually, he tells me that he knows you, that he used to be in touch with you years ago when he thought some of these programs were for real. He said he has always liked you. Hey, and that goes for me, too. :)

    I've learned quite a lot from the veterans of this internet moneymaking stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Actually, he tells me that he knows you, that he used to be in touch with you years ago when he thought some of these programs were for real. He said he has always liked you. Hey, and that goes for me, too. :)
    If that is the case, please tell him that he is welcome to renew any association. I played autosurfs for a while and I knew some very trustworthy and some very undesirable characters from those days. ISpy4U ( Kent Black's favourite mod,) Sydney was one of the largest sewer rats whom I had had the displeasure to encounter on my cyberspace travels.

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    Fresh load of poop from admin....

    Hello T2 & C150 Members.

    I will start with an apology for my lack of communication over the past couple of weeks.

    Like I said earlier, no matter what I say, only an element will believe it, and it will always end up with me being bombarded with question after question and a raft of PMs. then I find I am no longer able to give my 100% focus to the task at hand, which to me is the most important thing.

    Oh, I could give all this service, but then you will all be wait 2 to 3 times as long for your returns. Although it has been interesting to hear some of the insane conspiracy theories and 'scam' accusations.

    But I have been working like a Trojan to try to complete some things that will not only be providing income to pay the outgoing members, but also to give a full and complete revival to both T2MK and C150.

    I am talking back to 'business as usual' in both programs. I think that would be a lot better received than just scraping together the cash to finish the payouts.

    I will be looking to team up with another admin to bring this to you all. I always said 2 heads are better than 1. With all the work involved, it will be a relief to get the extra help.

    PAYOUT CYCLES

    We managed to get almost through cycle 2 of the payouts before the funds dried up. We did manage to get another $6800 from Chris into Payza, and that is also now dry again, but I have emailed him as the rest of it should be released into his account by now, and I am just awaiting a reply from him. That will give us a boost.

    C150

    There has been a lot of speculation about C150 withdrawals. I have been hoping to be able to get some funds in to keep it going, but it looks like we are not going to get them in time. So unfortunately it looks like I am going to have to freeze the withdrawals until we have the funds. But there is no need for the program to follow the same direction that we are with T2MK. Although, as from tomorrow I will close purchasing from outside money, but it is OK for people to compound there seeing as it is a much smaller member base and only half the daily % as T2MK. I will return pendings to member accounts so they can compound it instead of having it locked up and unusable.

    OTHER PROGRAMS

    At the moment I am involved with some other programs (AS A MEMBER ONLY). This is funded with MY OWN money and is starting to show profit which is to pay for the high development costs associated with building some unique programs which are designed to provide some lucrative income streams FOR YOUR BENEFIT. Which is why users of this forum are seeing banners for UNSTOPPABLEWHIRLWIND.COM Which I will go into detail about a little further down.

    I have put the jsstripler2 domain name to some good use, as there are around 400 backlinks to it around the internet and still gets around 3000 hits a day. So I have redirected it to unstoppablewhirlwing.com, this leads to quite a few referrals which can bring in a lot of money for the projects. Which is a lot better than just having it sat there not doing much.

    I chose the unstoppablewhirlwind because to me, I like their blueprint. The daily subs is a way of keeping a matrix cycling strongly and prevents it from stalling. It is also because I had the opportunity to get in very early which is also a benefit. Also the admins seem to be very devoted to bringing people something a bit different in that sector of online opportunities. So if I was to recommend any other program to my members at this time, it would that one.

    At this point, I would also like to put some stupid speculation to bed that i am in some way connected with this program. This is ludicrous, I have absolutely zero affiliation with the admins of UWW and any connection between me and that program ends totally as a member and recruiter. It was also pointed out by a tiny element that they would resist joining any program if I was involved. Well all I can say is that would be your own choice. But if it meant resisting out of pure distrust, then I ask you this.... Why am I still here? I could have quite easily taken the easier option that almost ALL admins take under similar circumstances. I don't think i need to explain what I am talking about.

    Despite the negative content spread out all over the internet about myself, my intentions and my level of honesty... I continue to 'resist' all this abuse to continue to strive towards your success.

    Despite the 'demands' for instant repayment or instant success, because the lack of it up to now means I am an 'incompetent', a 'crook', a 'loser'? Many great things have been produced by many people. But how many were instantly successful? Like I said on this very forum... how many years of abuse and chastising did Thomas Edison have to suffer before people realised that they were so very wrong.

    I am not comparing myself with Edison, but the things are still the same. he was an innovator that need many attempts to get it right, and when he did, he changed many lives for the better.

    Just remember, I could have taken the easy way out, I could have easily done that. I keep going, because that's what the best people do. Not the weak, not the crooks and not the losers.

    I have been asked quite a few times why I don't just start up some matrixes and get the members to support them? I did have it planned, but as things were going it was looking more and more like I would be wasting my time, which has been echoed by recent comments about resisting just that.. But I have a question of my own. Why would someone refuse to help ME to help THEM?? Why would they deliberately resist and continue to label me a scammer? Does it make any sense at all? If i was willing to give the T2MK and C150 members the first jump into some matrix programs, they would refuse it, even though it was a win win situation, getting in first meaning almost guaranteed profits, also with funds being created for the 2 main host programs giving a benefit on the backend of it.

    So I have decided to put it to a vote. Before I waste any more time, I want to know my current level of support. So here is a link for you to add your vote... Basically, are you done with me and will rebuff any further involvement, or will you support someone who is trying hard to get things to what I promised.

    Please be sure to read the first post from me before casting your vote, because it can not be undone.

    http://www.moneynetw...oll/#entry33808

    If you are interested joining unstoppablewhirlwind.com then it is less than a week old, and this is surely the time to be getting into it. It is actually quite exciting, because the cycling is very frequent.

    Feel free to click one of the banners in the forum or in my signature, and remember, you are helping me to help you. I am only able to cover so much of the development costs with my own money before I have to do other things to raise the cash.


    MNF FORUM.

    It has been mentioned that MNF is a very controlled forum. I am sure people who actually come here and read what is written will agree that is is anything but controlled, as a matter of fact, this forum is a lot less controlled than almost all other forums I have seen which hand out warnings, suspensions and bannings like they were candy. I have tried to give everyone a voice and I have allowed people to say as they wish about me here, but I will be starting to clamp down on it with immediate effect.

    I will no longer tolerate any speculation without concrete proof from the poster especially to me and anyone else connected to this forum or the programs. I am not saying that everyone must turn into cheerleaders, but if you want to be seriously negative about anyone or anything, then bring something with you to back it up and post it along with what you have to say. Please try to be positive. because most of the anxiety actually is spawned from the negative comments. It helps nobody, not even yourself. If you want to vent, then vent elsewhere. believe it or not, the majority of people do not want to read moaning and whinging, they all know what the position is, doom-mongering will not help. not even yourself.

    I am not giving up, so neither should you.

    Once again, I apologise for the long wait for this update and any anxiety it caused. I will try my best to spend more time in the T2MK HQ thread so long as i am not constantly bombarded with questions.

    I will try to work out say a couple of question and answer periods per week. Where you can hit me with questions.

    Thank you all again for your continued patience.

    Dave.
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    For those curious as to what Stros posted that was deleted at MMG here is the post....

    It was a post by Dave to Ken Russo I guess attacking him and mmg poster Blondie...

    Ken.

    Stop being a dramatist...

    You have always had my personal email address and if you were so concerned about your downline why didn't you bother to send me a direct enquiry? I ALWAYS answer my personal emails. You are one of the very lucky people to have a direct line to me, where you are able to be privy to normally private information,and you choose to ignore it.

    I am still here, I don't open my PMs because I get so many of them and it slows me right down, not only having to personally respond to each one, but also having to action every request if there is one.

    As for YOU Blondie. You have the absolute gall to lead your poor followers from one car crash to another. You turned against me and lolalola because of pure personal reasons because of a silly quote on the other forum where I called Lola the new queen of MMG. I even emailed lola straight after I posted it, and said that this was going to cause a real **** storm, and boy was I right. the very next day on your blog you went nuts, and a day later, lola was banned then I followed shortly after even though I hadn't posted in MMG for weeks. So I got banned from there for absolutely nothing apart from your own influence with the staff there, and the way you kiss their butts on that forum (for all to see), as well as on your blog.

    I would say that I have learned a lot from my first experiences in this industry, I would say that you are probably the WORST example of a leader that I have ever known. You can't take people into a program and then undermine it in public for personal reasons!!! I can't believe you are posting here after the things you have got up to. You are one sneaky person. the way you cling to the major program under-miners of MMG (you know who I am talking about) and call them your friends, another case of kissing what you believe to be the right butts. Everyone in the background knows that it is only because you fear them and if you remain pally with them, they will leave you alone.... lol, it's almost laughable.

    Judging by your blog Alexa rank it is plain to see that you are not a very successful leader, and in my opinion you never will be. All you ever seem to do on that blog of yours is to whinge about admins, programs and the more successful leaders in the industry.

    I think you have a bare faced cheek to come on my forum at all, considering since the day it was launched you crowed constantly about it being a controlled forum and that people were not allowed to say what they think, well there is plenty of proof on this very forum that people can say exactly what they feel as long as it is within the rules (which every forum has). I even allow people to say bad things about me, I don't allow people to say bad things about each other. If you want to see a controlled forum, got to MMG, such as banning me because I banned Yippee from here.... Then banning Lola because it annoyed you that she was a lot more popular than YOU on there... well you can't get much more controlled about that.

    Anyway, I am deleting your account on here, I will show you what control is all about.... one thing you were right about though, that WAS your last post. :assassin:

    For all the other members. I am writing an update next, and you will all be informed of exactly where we are.

    Ken, send out your scam alert if it helps make you feel important. But beware of the consequences with the Payza and STP accounts... As they say in Thailand (all the time) "Up to you".
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    What a load of crock. Before he launched this, all he could do was tell everyone how he had figured it out to run a clean program that was not a Ponzi, and he would single-handily change the face of this industry.

    Now he has hat in hand claiming that this time he is going to get it right. Dave I hope you are reading this because you are full of it. By the way, that's not being negative, that is being truthful.

    Why anyone would stay in anything you do is beyond me. As the old saying goes, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

    If I were you, I would walk the talk instead of talking the walk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    What a load of crock. Before he launched this, all he could do was tell everyone how he had figured it out to run a clean program that was not a Ponzi, and he would single-handily change the face of this industry.

    Now he has hat in hand claiming that this time he is going to get it right. Dave I hope you are reading this because you are full of it By the way, that's not being negative, that is being truthful.

    Why anyone would stay in anything you do is beyond me. As the old saying goes, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

    If I were you, I would walk the talk instead of talking the walk.
    Typical of the head cheerleaders deserting the sinking/sunk ship! ken DrDave russo , lola, stroes and all the rest trying to put as much distance from peakr8/dave bell as possible. Scam from the start and I stopped believing long ago that lola is/was a true believer. I think she was/is hip deep in this scam.

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    Interesting that this "I'm not a ponzi" Purveyor is now joining and pimping hyips and ponzis such as "unstoppable whirlwind". This is apparently his idae of "outside income"...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Admin Dave to start a new scam.....

    Hi T2MK and C150 Members.

    Please read this important update on the MNF forum.

    http://www.moneynetworkforum.com/ind...-our-way-back/

    Also for those who can't make the forum for whatever reason. here is the content here.

    Hi T2MK and C150 Members.

    Sorry about the slight delay to this update. I had to wait until I spoke to a few people before issuing the details.

    Firstly, I want to touch upon the current state of the poll about supporting a future matrix program. It is extremely humbling for me to see that at the time of writing this update it shows just under 90% still support me, and would be happy to support/promote the upcoming cycler.

    Yes, it is official, we WILL be launching a matrix program (possibly more) with the initial one being designed along the lines of theGoldenPath.biz and UnstoppableWhirlWind.com But with a slight difference to improve the payouts and speed up the cycling without bulking out the entry levels, so members will see more consistent cycling.

    The program payplan will be released just prior to pre-launch of which, ALL T2MK and C150 members will have the first public headsup giving you all a chance of getting in the early positions. If you are not familiar with cycling matrix programs, then you must learn that these programs are set up in such a way, that there is a massive earnings advantage for the early-birds. Just ask anyone, they will all say the same.

    If you get in with the first YOU CAN NOT FAIL!

    Another great attraction of cyclers is that they do not incur a debt like a daily % payer. All positions are cycled with real money. Money in.... money out.

    It will be a daily subs based 5 level matrix, but as stated earlier, it is not set up the same as UWW and TGP.

    So far, I have spoken with some of the higher profile T2MK/C150 members regarding helping to run the program from technical duties to support staffing. This time I will not be alone in running this program. We may possibly still require some 'live support' staff. This would be a great opportunity to get your links out there by helping visitors to the site who are maybe confused by the opportunity.

    We will also require volunteers to look after a facebook and twitter account that will also benefit the program.

    Please be aware, that I am going to give the HIGHEST positions in this program to the staff who will be helping me run this. here is the structure as it will stand.

    highest spot is company and that account will be a feeder of positions to the main matrix system. It won't remove funds at any time.

    Next in will be a T2MK/C150 member account, this will (obviously) be the highest earner.

    Next will be Matrix Staff.

    Next will be T2MK/C150 Members who pre-register (see below for details) We will urge those of you who already have a regular sponsor to continue to sign under that sponsor. Anyone else who normally signs up to programs on an ad-hoc basis will be asked to sign under the T2MK/C150 account link to maximize revenue for the program's revivals. But please sign under your sponsor preferably if you use one. We will issue steps later to follow.

    Next will be a small list of leaders (essential for gaining fast traction).

    Then we will do the public launch. Soon after, the cycling will begin and you will ALL start cycling within minutes so long as we get this launch right.

    If you wish to get the early positions, then please apply by visiting this thread and follow the instructions.

    http://www.moneynetw...-matrix-cycler/

    I will be asking people to promote as much as they can, because this is our chance to get T2 and C150 back where it should be. We all need this to succeed. We need the members to get their links out there as much as possible, we need the leaders to support us who already have sponsors affected by the suspensions of T2MK and C150. More importantly.... WE ALL WANT TO MAKE MONEY. Yes and others would like to start making money by having you refund or pay them money that you owe them. This would be a great way for people to make money back from you.

    Here is a great chance for us to totally recover.

    Let the good times roll once again.

    Thank you

    Dave.
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