Ha ha ha ha. Why would they pay 2% the day after they said they couldn't?Originally Posted by littleroundman
And the ole 'script issues' 'security on the server' excuse comes out. It's not long now.
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Anonymous. As are you all
Ha ha ha ha. Why would they pay 2% the day after they said they couldn't?
And the ole 'script issues' 'security on the server' excuse comes out. It's not long now.
Senior Member
But, but, but admin has come up with a new form of math that makes Einstein look like a dunce....
It's a new cycler/matrix where no one will lose...ever....
It's all in the latest poop....
Hi Members.
Thought I would give everyone a new update on how we are progressing with the T2MK restart.
I am currently waiting for Mark to finish setting up the report system. Hopefully this will be available for everyone over the coming 24 hours. Also I will have access to my own version of the reports system, where i can section out the repayments schedule which will largely be dictated by those most in arrears receiving their first payouts as priority and then moving down the list a section at a time.
We will not be able to tell people where they are in the list, as this is not a public record. But I will try to give people some indicators once i see the report setup for myself.
We will be making the payments directly to your main account, this will be the deposits payments first, and once they are all paid out, I will pay out the 15% bonuses in the same order. Please remember that if you are already in profit of 115% of your total combined deposits, you won't be eligible for a payout, this is for members 'in the red' only.
The reason we will be paying into your T2MK main account is that many members will be continuing with us, and that will save on processor fees. There is no point paying to your processor if you are just going to deposit it back in again.
Some members may wish to leave the program once payouts have been completed, they will be able to do this if they wish. But any member cashing out ANY partial amount of money, then re-depositing, will be charged the processor fees up to the amount they cashed out.
After the re-launch it is likely we will be scaling the withdrawal fees to suit the relevant processor fees. Those who use Alertpay will be charged the most, (rates to be confirmed later). There will also be a new rule where anyone wishing to use Alertpay, will NOT be able to deposit via any other processor, and they must accept a clause to say that in the event of an AP freeze, that they agree that their T2MK account will be frozen until such time that the Alertpay account becomes un-frozen.
I have noticed that a lot of accounts have used split funding. For example, adding $600 by AP and $500 by STP, then all monies being withdrawn to Alertpay which seems to have the cheapest bank wire option. This will be controlled after re-launch, members will be asked to use a single processor. This keeps the funds balanced, and seeing as we intend to be around for a long long time, we need to have a system that gives us easier accounting.
After re-launch we will also be putting together a new type of matrix system, this will be of my own design, I don't think anything like it exists and will comprise of a cycler system but with a difference. I won't go into all the mechanics right now, but it will be not only part of the program where a certain amount of your expiring DPs will create entries, but it will also be open to the public.... Why do I think this is a good twist to the program?.... Because not only is the momentum assisted and maintained by non-program members buying entries, but also it is very very appealing to the public because it can't stall!! Why can't it stall??... because it is constantly being fed by expiring DPs. So in essence it acts as a two way feeder system.
the math will be set so that members will all profit, and that it is self sufficient but with the added help of the income streams giving it even more momentum... I am also thinking of marrying it with the C150 membership for even more movement. (Yet to be decided)
I don't think that a cycler system has ever been set up in this manner, and I can't see why it shouldn't be a huge hit. It will NOT be the same matrix system as before, it will be unique, and quite passive.. Stay tuned.
Daily payout...
The daily % is to be set in accordance with the amount of income at the time of re-launch, and we will be sticking with the 150% until expiry format, whether it be 2% for 75 days or 1.5% for 100 days remains to be seen. But as soon as I know, you will know.
Commissions...
We will be paying a slightly reduced commission of 8% and 3% after re-launch, this saves the program 4% and we will only pay commissions on purchases from outside deposits. Compounding will no longer attract any commission. This will also reduce a strain on system funds.
Outside Income...
I have already spoken to a few members about running positions in our websites. I still need to talk with a few, if i can ask members who have applied to be patient, I will get to each and everyone of you. Again, I am waiting for something from Mark, so we can move forward. But won't be much longer.
C150 members.
Other than possibly being merged with the T2MK/Public matrix cycler... The c150 program will be unaffected by the restart.
That's it for the time being, and I will get another update to you as soon as I can. Have a great weekend.
Dave.
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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Peakr8 works in close collaboration with some of the greediest ref whores in ponziland (the likes of Strosdegoz, YourBallyhoo, Krusso and others). Anything concocted by these bottom feeding leeches will naturally aim at lining their own pockets first and foremost, at the expense of regular members again.
Administrator
Unfortunately for the "regular members" the ref whores have taken their money and are long gone, leaving nothing in the pot.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Elite Scambuster
Another not so happy opt-out...
T2moneyklub - T2moneyklub.com
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
Senior Scambuster
WOW! dave/freaker8 just threw his right hand man/woman under the bus here. Is there trouble in paradise, I wonder????
Link:
T2moneyklub - T2moneyklub.com
Administrator
Some of the old cliches are still the best.
"There's no honour among thieves" comes to mind at times such as this.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Senior Member
It's a great post....Just in case it gets deleted there....
Hello Dave , I am one of the opted out lied by you coming here to tell you a few words. The fact that you have taken possession of my money does not take away my freedom to tell you what you deserve. It's the least I can do when I meet a scammer.
FYI I would accept your T2 failure without complaint if you had had the humility to admit publicly that it was wrong at some point , that you mistaken something, etc. however you always kept the arrogance of someone who knows everything…
what are you KNOW-HOW at last?
IMO actually you’re a great copier and program launcher but what about the results? Results ... get it ? that’s what separates doers from dont’s .So, guess what you really are right now ... what is your worth ...
However, I must praise your boldness and courage. Even in the course of your copycat failure you have the courage to announce “new and AWESOME opportunities" speaking of a matrix never seen before, etc.. (no mentioning your second 150boat still sailing. WOW, who goes for it ?)
Please , allow me to add to it , that no one will ever see, later, I mean, WILL NEVER SEE the money of who jump on board this new boatMatrix of yours … if it GOES SAILNG ...
I wonder what is your real purpose with this untimely pre launch? To make us forget our loss ? treat us like children? do you think this industry is your play ground where you can play with other people’s money? .... and then return with a solution (still not served) with the appearance of honesty. It is not, since not counting our time lost , not paid mandatory tasks etc . I can’t take in silence your arrogance and crookedness by forcing us to do tasks ( not prior stated) when you already knew that your copy cat boat was sinking.
So, even if you return my money with more 15,%( what I doubt) , it will not make you honest and correct person , but just another scamer PONZI Guru out there whose present power TO act this way comes from you cowardly kidnapped our money, money of people that gave credit to your fluff " WE ARE NOT PONZI " "WE ARE DIFFERENT" " WE NEED NO NEW MEMBERS TO SURVIVE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCE OF INCOME, ETC.
So, get informed .You have no power , our money gives you a transient power. . .
BTW Regarding your awesome coming AWESOME NEVER SEEN IN THE INTIRE WORLD matrix ... is it original or another copy? I am out anyway, of course. If you can’t produce good results when you copy something successful ( an admited PONZI), what can we expect from something brand new created by you?
If my post makes at least one person give up following you, I'll be satisfied.
Cul copycatPONZI scamer
Darn English. LOL
Elite Scambuster
LOL. does anybody see the irony in this post...?
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it's nice to see an admin that is so happy to communicate with investors and I really appreciate it.
anyway, this question is still unanswered:
QUOTE (mauritos @ Apr 30 2012, 11:22 AM) *
when withdrawals will be available??
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
Senior Scambuster
I don't know about the irony of the post but to guess at the answer to his/her question is the third Tuesday of the ninth week of June in the year 2712, except of course to the major pimps.
Member
In all likelihood members won't be getting any of their money back. The major pimps aka ref whores have all but disappeared after emptying the pot. They know it's game over and have already moved on to their next scam. Payments stopped because there was no more cash left to pay members, and now Peakr8 would have them believe he can suddenly come up with the cash to refund everyone not in profit plus an extra 15%. Only the most delusional will buy his BS.
Senior Scambuster
As I was reading the different forums I came across this by none other than faith sloan and thought I would share. ( I love it when scammers have a falling out)
Read the latest T2MoneyKlub update for yourself.
I will NOT elaborate on any of the details but I will start
with a quick historical synopsis of JSSTripler2 / T2MoneyKlub.
In this way, Dave (or the loyal promoters, Dirson (Stros) or Ken Russo)
won’t say that I am being biased or crazy.
HERE ARE THE FACTS about JSSTripler2 T2MoneyKlub!
Link:
Faith Sloan Gray Matter: Making Cash, Advertising/Marketing, and Ramblings - faithsloan.com
Elite Scambuster
A rather interesting phenomenon observed in all these marvelous opportunities is what they call "compounding", which occurs a lot when the suck....err members can't get their money out. I am not sure if any of them are aware that what they are doing is not actually compounding. If it were these ponzis would go broke several times faster than they already do. Compounding, in the true sense of the term is taking the periodic interest earned and adding it back to the principle and earning interest on that new principle amount. Example: If the starting principle is $100, and the interest is 2% daily for 50 days, that means that the second day the $2 earned is added to the principle and then interest is earned on $102. The formula is: P*(1+ i)raised to the power of p(period) In this case, 100*(1+.02)^50=$269.16. In a very real sense what they are doing is not "compounding" but letting their bet "ride" and hoping the house will pay off.
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
Banned
I can tell you this...the admins of these hyips rely on suck...err members 'compounding'...To the 'members' it looks so very, very good on 'paper'...to the admins everytime a member 'compounds' that means they don't have to 'pay those particular members 'out' which means they have more money to 'play' with so to speak...This buys them (the admins and the pimps) more time to scam yet more money from the unsuspecting.
Senior Member
Word is that Dave is back and will post some new poop soon....
Elite Scambuster
...And I am positive "poop" is the correct term...!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
Anonymous. As are you all
Think this will finally be the meltdown about it being all the members fault?
Elite Scambuster
Ummm, he might take a crack at blaming those nasty naysayers first...?
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
Anonymous. As are you all
I think he used that one already didn't he? Not to say he won't throw that one out there again.
Senior Scambuster
As Elmer Fudd said over at MMG, freaker8/dave has more stories than Walt Disney so maybe a new one will come out.
Administrator
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Administrator
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Senior Member
Well here is the poop.....
Hi T2MK Members.
Sorry to keep you all waiting. I had important business to take care of regarding my new visa status in the country, and needed to be done which created 4 days running around with all the usual dross involved with government business.
Anyway, I am thrilled to tell you that your personal restart report is now available in your member areas. You can log in to your dashboard and the link is on the popup as well as right at the top of the dashboard screen.
The report will display all outside money invested, and then 15% bonus. It will then show amounts withdrawn, and the balance.
If your balance is in positive, then that is what you will receive. If it is in negative, then well done... you are already in profit here.
I am putting a load of websites on sale today, and from tomorrow, I will be appointing a manager to select and look after the 'webstock staff'. these are members who have applied to run different T2MK websites to provide income for the programs. Thank you to all who applied.
We are currently putting together the new website that will be handling the tasking from now on, this will be on a profit share basis and will provide a large income for the club.
My main focus is on getting the members their seed money back and then their 15% bonuses. then I will be putting together a full re-launch based upon the active income at the time of the startup instead of the original launch which was based on the blueprint of a out and out ponzi scheme which will collapse eventually leaving debts in excess of tens of millions of USD (if not hundreds of millions).
We won't be going anywhere near that territory. It will take far too long to build up income streams to accommodate that model even with limited members (knowing what I know know). So when you here 2% a day, or 2.55 a day, I suggest you listen to someone who has had experience in the field working from behind the scenes.
That is not to say that we can't offer a program that can still deliver outstanding results and safe profits. But we need to build from the income base and not from the ideal.. then evolve to grow the program rewards. So far, C150 has shown a much better format for our type of program, and should have been the formula from day 1, but hey... we are all learning. Now it's time to be responsible, and realistic. I am not saying that 2% a day is impossible, but what I am saying is that it needs time to get there, you can't just offer it on a whim and expect it to fall out of the sky. Everything looks good on paper, but a few little bugs and an inconvenient temporary processor freeze and the whole thing goes haywire, and members are too quick to call the admin an incompetent. Considering the amount of work that goes on behind the scenes here, I find it quite insulting (and who wouldn't?).
So, to any member who thinks this way, then please remove your money once available and put it into something that promises these things without the bother and trouble of income streams that are 100% visible to your eye. and I will show you a member who is incompetent with money. Those who understand what I am trying to say... well done, you just passed the first test of how to understand the theory of making money online.
Anyway. I will NOT be reopening registrations in this program, that is now my final decision.
Right... Now that you have your reports, I need to see the members put their processor details in their member area. There are about 30% of members not yet done this, and I need to know what processor you are using. Once you choose, then that will be final. It should be the processor that you used mostly to fund with.
Members will have 3 days to do this (if not already done). If not done, then those members will be skipped in the payments queue, and will go to the end of the queue.
Remember, we will pay the remaining balance minus the 15% first, the 15% will only be given as a bonus to members remaining in the program
Members will then have 3 days to withdraw, any member who has withdrawn their entire balance will be deleted from the T2MK program and will not be returned. Withdrawals will be locked for each member after 3 days.
If a member removes more than 50% of their remaining balance to processor, they will not qualify for the 15% bonus.
The more cash removed from the system, then the longer we all wait for the restart.
Any member leaving their full remaining balance in place, will gain an extra 5% bonus, making 20% bonus payment payable to them on restart.
We will also be looking to change the payout structure so that those we owe the least amount to will be paid first, this will clear a huge amount of member's debt and will cause a great many more to be repaid faster. It could also half the amount of time before the re-launch.
The new tasking website will be up on the servers this week hopefully, and members will have the first opportunity to join and get in place to recruit a downline and earn a load of residual money as well as working for the program and helping it towards the re-launch and a much stronger future for the program.
Only remaining members will have a 3 day head start on recruiting for the new tasking program.
the domain name I have chosen is cash4comments.com
That's all for now.
Elite Scambuster
...And we were right! Poop it is...! I notice that he has apparently reneged on paying the 15% bonus to the opt outs for their patience. He also admitted that he started it as a ponzi, even thought at the time he claimed it wasn't....surprise, surprise, admins lie...!
Okosh, you were right on the stories, I hadn't seen the "visa" one before...!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
Senior Scambuster
It will be most interesting in reading how the ref whores and cheerleaders try to put a spin on this turkey.
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