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What a learning experience this has been
I'll never forget being invited to Cliff & Eleanor Maiers the first time. I told a couple close friends and the paperboy I was going to the Moonies. I was joking, but out of the mouths of babes.... I couldn't have imagined seeing a day when a former top-level Moonie named Steve Hassan would emerge as a renowned cult expert and state flat-out, Amway is a cult. A destructive one at that. And the Maiers were distributors of Amway and didn't tell us one bit!
As a younger person I just wanted to read the Bible before I was a certain age, and stay out of trouble to boot. Yes, I had a real uneasy stomach once at the Maiers. But at the time it seemed like problems I went through were exactly remedied by the bible study themes. To the point I now entertain the notion The Maiers, Santti, a couple punks named Troy and Curt, weren't inclined to care about the bible, rather the Kubler Ross grief cycle.
When we experience grief, loss, separation and other hardships, we can go through stages of The Kubler ross Grief cycle (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance). What these people and cults do, is find people who are at the acceptance stage, and hustle them up to the bargaining stage. And are they ready to bargain! To be clear, their version of the Bargaining stage involves your stuff ending up with them. Whether it's money, help, your reputation, exploitation of your friends.
When that doesn't work, that is, if you go telling people you don't think that's very Christian of them, the strangest problems emerge, out of the blue.
I took a lot of **** from these people, and i can't tell you how many times i'd hear people near them who didn't go along with the Amway, or Time for Change or any of the scam-of-the-week - i can't ell you how many times I'd hear people telling me they were considering suicide. The pressure placed on these marks from many angles using shills in churches cannot be overstated. These people are evil and we ain't seen nothing yet.
To everyone who is participating in this thread, topic. THANK YOU. From the bottom of my heart and many, many innocent people who were betrayed by people claiming to be "Promise Keepers" or been "Baptized in the Holy Spirit". I suppose, if the Good Book says blasphemy of the Holy Spirit isn't forgivable in this world or the next, then who am I to even think of forgiving them?
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I'm sensing another MAPs or just straight out Ponzi here...Quite frankly I'm not sure what it is, but feel it warranted this category.
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I especially dig the fact that they straight up don't accept PayPal;)
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I especially dig the fact that they straight up don't accept PayPal;)
That's the first clue it's a scam.
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I especially dig the fact that they straight up don't accept PayPal;)
You won't need Paypal , bingalicous you're on a beach retired...
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Just one more.....In case you were wondering the difference between an ILLEGAL and LEGAL pyramid/ponzi scheme....start watching around 3:40....from this "legal expert" promoting "Five Dollar Funnel"
Enjoy
https://youtu.be/PwvTEsthmTg
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He compares it to the food pyramid! And I quote...."It doesn't make food illegal." I have to stop now.
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Pyramid SCHEME = aka "endless chain recruiting scheme" = illegal
Pyramid shaped BUSINESS STRUCTURE = legal
Someone who makes video deliberately confusing the two = pimp looking to confuse potential victims
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These e-mails are getting funnier. Do people ever respond? They must, or why would they keep doing it?
Attention: Fund Beneficiary,
This will be the first and last we the entire FBI Head Office NYC will
remind you about this issue, because it has been long and I believe by
now you have got this below message at least more than 4 times still
you haven't respond; Note that the grace given to you as a legal
Beneficiary has expired therefore you should entitle of 6 Years Jail
Sentence which will be taking care by Police Interpol of your Country.
So this is our last warning to you because there is no way you should
abandon your TRUNK BOX at JFK because of Custom requirement fee $150,
which they later allow you to pay half of it as of now while the
remaining half will be pay by you after confirming your BOX. You can't
reject the box without good reason; else you will be arrested and
believe me that the paper attached to the box has all your full
personal details that will lead to your immediate arrested any were
you are. BELOW is the same message.
We the Federal bureau of investigation (FBI) Washington, DC., believe
you received the previous message we sent to you, prior you are
dealings with the U.S Custom Authority at (JFK) John F. Kennedy
International Airport New York as regards to your over-due contract
payment consignment trunk box worth $4.500.000.00 USD (four million
five hundred thousand dollars only), which was endorsed in your favor
and like we stated earlier, we have dully screened through this
project as stipulated on our protocols of operation and have finally
confirmed that your contract payment is 100% genuine and hitch free
from all facet and of which you have the lawful right to claim your
fund without any further delay.
This is to bring to your notice that we have just been informed
through secrete source that the U.S Custom Authority atat (JFK) John
F. Kennedy International Airport New York are making arrangement to
have your contract fund wired into the Bank account of Mrs. Jane
Frederick, the lady that contacted them, earlier and presented some
documentations evidencing your claim purported to have being signed
personally by you for the release of your contract fund to her, since
you have chose to ignore their messages and refuse to pay the required
$75 for Custom Clearance Certificate charges as imposed, despite the
advise we gave to you. I want to personally assure you once again that
you will have every course to smile and be happy upon conclusion of
this project, as we will continue monitoring all your services with
them at all level as well as your correspondence, until you have
received your Metal Trunk Box accordingly. As a LEGAL OWNER, we are
here to
protect your interest and that is the reason why we are doing all we
can to make sure all goes well, this is a huge amount of money which
we don't wish for you to lose.
We understand that the imposed fee might be too much for you to pay so
to further make things easier for you, we have discussed with the U.S
Custom Authority at (JFK) John F. Kennedy International Airport New
York pleaded on your behalf for them to give you the grace of sending
half of the charges $75 for now after which the Diplomatic Agent
delivery your consignment trunk boxes to you then once you receive
your fund, you can then pay the balance $75, All we want you to do
right now is to send the half of the money with the name listed below
so we can forward it to Benin Republic Customs authority to help us
obtain the Custom Clearance Certificate and the diplomat will make the
delivery to your home address tomorrow morning.
Receiver's Data / information: Send the fee through money GRAM money
transfer outlet around.
Receivers Name: UZO JAMES OKECHI
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Text Question: A
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Contact us right away and let me know when you send half of the
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Also be informed that we came to an agreement with the U.S Custom
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you will be sending half of the fee, latest before the end of tomorrow
so please we will advise that you send the fee right away because if
you fail to do that, then they will have no other choice than to
release your fund to Mrs. Jane Frederick who is ready to work with
them, and that am sure will be a very great loss to you as we
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Gina
These e-mails are getting funnier. Do people ever respond? They must, or why would they keep doing it?
This is one of the best sites to see the fun that can be had.
Welcome to the 419 Eater
But yeah people do respond and end up sending millions each year from some variation of what seems like a pretty silly ruse.
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Pyramid SCHEME = aka "endless chain recruiting scheme" = illegal
Pyramid shaped BUSINESS STRUCTURE = legal
Someone who makes video deliberately confusing the two = pimp looking to confuse potential victims
10:48! The guy's mouth went dry because it was so full of sh...
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I'm not entirely sure this one is even serious. It was in my spam folder, but "Wednesday"? I think that was on purpose and this is a ruse.
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I'm relieved to report this Easter Day, the State of Michigan shows its serious, cracking down on those who use religion as a pretext to scam:
Man accused of using religion to pull off scam gets prison : News : UpperMichigansSource.com
@ Gina thanks for the video; am at a loss for words except to thank you.
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I've got bad news, but please allow me to review:
We've shown Jeff Santti pitching Ponzi schemes, watched a video Jeff promotes featuring his old Amway Distributor Eleanor Maier; together they demonstrate known fake tests that show the snakeoil juice they sell gives the buyer powers to touch their toes. We've not only seen proof he is a scam artist but in his own words.
And Eleanor, we've covered her Evangelism Explosion roots in which they extol the "Great Commission" (probably an inside sales joke as well) where Jesus told his Apostles (not scam artists) to spread the gospel. And by the way they'll plan the distribution of your estate for "free". And we saw a Church Newsletter where Eleanor and Estate planning are more than a little conspicuous... enter the new kid, same as the old kid...
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Uhm.. what about Jeff Santti's scams we just witnessed?
Occupying one whole page (14A) in the Mining Journal April 24, 2015, is a thank-you to the great volunteers who help terminally ill patients. I'm quite sure we are all grateful, SO grateful in fact, I'm calling Jeff Santti out. THERE IS NO WAY Jeff Santti is fit to be around terminally ill people because of the scamming we've seen.
If you feel the same way and wish to help raise the red flag - and if investigators in Marquette are willing to look to see if Jeff has had "donations" from terminally ill people - not only could families be spared unimaginable grief but the good volunteers could be spared from false association.
Jeff Santti is known for decades of scamming vulnerable people and discarding them after he gets his sustenance. And now that he's got the most vulnerable, we NEED action.
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Another one. Mula Matrix. Enjoy.
Mula Matrix
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I especially dig this quote....
"The freedom of no-one owning you (working for other people can really be a pain the ass)....."
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Beef Jerky Direct!
Sorry if this has been posted before somewhere, but it's an MLM FOR BEEF JERKY! I don't know about you, but I hardly ever buy beef jerky, but when I do, it's usually bought for someone else and purchased in a convenience store or something. I just can't get over that there's an MLM for beef jerky.
www.jerkydirect.com - Your Online Wholesale Portal for Wholesale Jerky
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Uh Oh, another one of those "All you have to do is pay $12 then find six friends.........
who find six friends......
who find six friends"
6 who find 6 = 36
36 who find 6 = 216
216 who find 6 = 1296
1296 who find 6 = 7776
7776 who find 6 = 46,656
And that's only five levels AND it's (trying to) sell overpriced beef jerky
HILARIOUS, all right
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Thank you, LRM....I'm dying. Can you imagine trying to sell this to your friends, or ANYONE? What on earth would you say without sounding insane?
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I don't know what's it's like in the US, but here, every corner deli and service station has jerky near the till - most of them five or six flavours, as well AND way, way cheaper than the stuff this silly man is trying to flog.
I predict a whole lot of v--e--e--r--y strange looks from the friends and relatives of anyone trying to become a millionaire selling beef jerky via MLM
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littleroundman
I don't know what's it's like in the US, but here, every corner deli and service station has jerky near the till - most of them five or six flavours, as well AND way, way cheaper than the stuff this silly man is trying to flog.
I predict a whole lot of v--e--e--r--y strange looks from the friends and relatives of anyone trying to become a millionaire selling beef jerky via MLM
I know, right? It's exactly that way in the US as well. It's so ridiculous I had to actually do a double take on it. I literally thought, did I just see that? And yes, yes I did.
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