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    Quote Originally Posted by covs67 View Post
    I don't think the (ADMIN note: no disguised links to your own website please, cov67)
    The article link is very relevant to the discussion. Anyway, i have fished the images from the site and attached it on this thread.

    In summary, guys, Forex MMCIS is not a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by covs67 View Post
    I don't think the (ADMIN note: no disguised links to your own website please, cov67) is a scam program. You can read that article. Kondakov is a well known professional trader at myfxbook and many traders have already subscribed to receive signals from him. I monitor his account on a weekly basis and found out that he out-performs the other traders i monitor.
    I think you are not paying attention what been said here.

    He is a criminal, whole country knows it, but rich and he bribed the politicians.

    First of all it is pretty simple to show any stats and nice growing charts on MyFXBook , specifically when data to it fed from a "forex–broker"
    who he himself controls :) . Signals he shares, are not his, the guy is dumb on anything forex. Might just as well subscribed to those signals himself and reposts as his. You should read "his" books to realize it, he even scams people on publishing other people books as his :)

    Second, he operates this forex-broker illegaly, unlicensed. There are more scam schemes done just by those "forex-kitchens", but some people think it is the real trading thing. If a broker is not audited, monitored – it would be very hard for him not scam the clients, and for this guy it would be impossible not to scam.

    Third, he and MMCIS gang are directly involved with multiple ponzi schemes , latest in that index 20.

    Fourth, MMCIS was also caught manipulating stocks on Ukraine's security exchange, they been banned from the exchange.

    Even sale of the name MMCIS was a scam.


    Everything about MMCIS is covered in so many lies, it is hard not to laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by covs67 View Post

    The people calling this program scam believes that there's no easy way to make 10% ROI monthly and therefore the program must be a scam.
    Folks if someone ever tells you there is an "easy" or "risk free" way to make 10% PER YEAR they are stretching it. PER MONTH, that has NEVER happened in history on a consistent basis and there is 100 years of publicly audited track records that prove this out. Warren Buffet probably the best known investor in the public eye has done about 20% per year. And he is one of the best, let's not forget all the investors/funds that blew up along the way losing every penny people trusted to them.

    So yes, if you hear anything similar to 10% a month it is a scam or run by a dreamer.



    Quote Originally Posted by covs67 View Post
    Please take a look at Ribshaw's trading activity below and see for yourself how he's been leading his team at the Biscuit and Bison fund. It's a couple of pictures on the interweb so it has to be true


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    Until know everything its ok with this broker .I have an investment in Index Top20 and it pay me regulary , so I can not complain about anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    Folks if someone ever tells you there is an "easy" or "risk free" way to make 10% PER YEAR they are stretching it.
    To be fair, one of my very low risk(it's literally insured by the government) investment does easily yield an annual return of around 10%(more or less) for more than a decade with very little involvement on my part, so I would say that it might be possible depending on which country you're from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nourjan View Post
    To be fair, one of my very low risk(it's literally insured by the government) investment does easily yield an annual return of around 10%(more or less) for more than a decade with very little involvement on my part, so I would say that it might be possible depending on which country you're from.
    This one claims to do 10% a month, month after month.
    Unlicensed , and claims that funds are insured by Radian and Deutsche Bank, which both denied :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nourjan View Post
    To be fair, one of my very low risk(it's literally insured by the government) investment does easily yield an annual return of around 10%(more or less) for more than a decade with very little involvement on my part, so I would say that it might be possible depending on which country you're from.
    Is this investment available to the public, non-citizens, or is it part of a retirement plan? Is that the rate someone would get today, or was that the rate 10 years back when you locked in?


    In being a little more specific what I meant by "risk free" and "easy" , these are 10 Year government bonds yielding over 10% in today's environment. The "risk" is either default or being repaid in depreciated currency. As for "easy" watching these things bounce around can make them hard to keep in the drawer until maturity.

    Brazil GEBU10Y 11.88
    Pakistan PKIB10YR 13.28
    Kenya KENYAGOVBON10Y 12.00
    Nigeria NIGERIAGOVBON10Y 12.31

    Government Bond 10y - Countries - List

    More specifically, there are any number of studies like this, maybe "easy" isn't the best adjective.

    "To better understand what I am to talking about, let’s look at a study conducted by Fidelity Investments. Fidelity conducted a study on the performance of its flagship
    Magellan mutual fund during the tenure of its famous manger Peter Lynch. Peter Lynch ran the Fidelity Magellan fund from 1977-1990 delivering an astonishing 29% average
    annual return during his tenure. Despite his remarkable performance while running the fund, Fidelity found that the average investor actually lost money during his 13 year
    tenure. How is this possible? According to Fidelity, investors would run for the doors during periods of poor performance and come rushing in after periods of success."

    http://www.tuveinvestments.com/docum...dinvesting.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    Is this investment available to the public, non-citizens, or is it part of a retirement plan? Is that the rate someone would get today, or was that the rate 10 years back when you locked in?

    It is basically a government issued trust fund which is issued by its investment wing(which also has ties with the multiple GLCs, Government Linked Companies) .It is available to the public but only to citizens of my country. It is not a retirement fund ,the official government issued retirement fund here(called EPF, short for Employees Provident Fund) average at around 5-6% return per annum.It is not a bond nor locked in, it is as accessible as a standard saving account (you can basically withdraw all the money a day after you deposit them,it its very liquid in a way) albeit with a slightly more hassle to withdraw (requiring you to be in person and be able to present proof of identity through government issued IC and matching fingerprints),but you can withdraw or deposit at any affiliated banks or simply at the post office on business days.The dividend will only kicked if the money is kept there for more than a year and there is a limit(capped at around USD61K) on how much you can invest, beyond that the capital can only grow through compounding interest.The dividend rate vary yearly depending on the performance of the portfolio, the 10% ROI (it could be more or less than that)is just the average that I get during the last 13 years( I kept the calculations from last millennia in a separate bracket).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nourjan View Post
    It is basically a government issued trust fund which is issued by its investment wing(which also has ties with the multiple GLCs, Government Linked Companies) .It is available to the public but only to citizens of my country.
    Thanks that is an interesting set up for citizens. We have a Social Security program, but the returns are so low it would almost be better to ride the Ponzi.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    on russian HYIP forum mmgp.ru mass reports of non payment since september,

    MMCIS now demands notarized copies of passports to be mailed to Cyprus "to pass verification"
    multiple people state after doing that they still cannot withdraw, few sums under $1k were paid out.

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    Re: Forex-mmcis.com scam?

    All of the sudden a new director of MMCIS was announced on Oct 2nd.

    Роман Александрович Комыса / Roman A. Komysa
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    replacing a non existing Mitchell Nunis ?

    The released bio of Roman says he was a vice–president of MMCIS before that and was the founder of MMCIS, which is strange and funny at the same time, nobody ever heard of him before. Unconfirmed rumor suggest that Roman has a long criminal record in Ukraine (will verify)

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    According to a police response Roman A. Komysa spent pretty much time in jails.

    Answer of the Zaporojie district , Ukraine Police deptartment (as was posted by Investbag):

    mmcis_komysa_police.jpg


    According to the posted response, Roman was sentenced multiple times on wide range of crimes:
    theft, rape, rape of minors, narcotics and gun possession, etc.., last time out of jail in 2012.
    Investbag draws a conclusion that Roman is a fall guy (a person getting paid to do the time for someone)



    And here is MMCIS company order issued by Roman on oct 7th: https://forex-mmcis.com/order/
    (also attached here)

    some snippets from it:


    Quote Originally Posted by MMCIS
    In accordance with the Charter, the Regulation on Document Management of the Company and the Internal Guidelines for Actions in Emergency Situations dd. 14.08.2008, to protect the Company against the raider attack, to normalize the work of all departments of the Company, to eliminate the panic among customers of the Company, I ORDER:
    ...

    1.1. To unload the queue of requests, to remove all customer requests from the company's database that have not yet passed the final verification and have not been sent for payment to Financial Department.
    1.2. To increase the number of processed requests per day, until further notice, to introduce the temporary time limit on the maximum withdrawal amount in a request – no more than USD 200.
    1.3. To prevent the recurrence of panic among customers, until further notice, to introduce the temporary restrictions on the number of withdrawal requests – no more than one request per 7 days per one client.
    ...

    3.4. To implement comprehensive measures against PR attacks of competitors, which would allow to neutralize their messages directed at the panic fomentation among company's customers.

    ...
    4.2. To take measures to prevent PR specialists hired by people attacking the company from working in company's social networks official groups, as well as on the company's forum.
    4.3. To increase the number of moderators in the official resources of the company and to tighten the rules of moderation to block the opponents' possibility to distort the essence of the positive measures being implemented.

    ...

    6.1. To implement technical restrictions on the company's website so that unscrupulous users were unable to bypass the new logic request processing introduced by this Order.
    6.2. To take measures to prevent future unauthorized access to the databases of the company and its infrastructure.
    6.3. To prepare materials for law enforcement agencies concerning the hacker attacks on the company's servers.
    6.4. To provide financial department with the necessary technical support for the integration of new payment instruments and resume temporarily disabled payment systems.

    ...

    7.4. To develop a single model for interaction with law enforcement agencies concerning complaints by provocateurs and company customers, in order to clarify for all parties the economic nature of the relationship between customers and the company and the transfer of all claims into the court sphere.
    7.5. To conclude outsourcing contracts with the required number of lawyers to protect the company's interests in court.
    7.6. To organize permanent work with claims and filing lawsuits against mass media, which are involved in the PR attack against the company and publish untrue information about it.
    ...

    9.1. To carry out all the necessary steps to identify individuals who take illegal measures towards the company to cause damage to it.
    9.2. To systematize data in respect of all persons who have violated the law in relation to the company or its employees, and to prepare materials for their transfer to law enforcement agencies.
    9.3. To take measures to organize the protection of employees and to prevent pressure on them by third parties, including a psychological pressure.
    9.4. To carry out activities aimed at protecting the company's assets and the creation of conditions under which persons attacking the company will not be able to seize them or block them.

    This ship is sinking .......
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    It's already done if they are using the 'hackorz attaxxx' line already.

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    Forgive me for so much crap in this post but i thought you should see what happens when ukrainian investors are being cheated

    1. I hope it was mud thrown in MMCIS office:




    2. A pile of cow manure left near MMCIS office in Dnepropetrovsk with a sign "MMCIS-bitches, Kondakov - a theif and fraudster , return our money":

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    3. Another office was set on fire


    4. Protests near another office (starts at 9:30)
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    Rats are running from a sinking ship.


    First, a fall guy Roman A. Komysa becomes a CEO of this scam.

    Today Konstantin Kondakov announced on his personal VK page that he is no longer associated with MMCIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Kondakov/auto-translated

    Dear friends, I leave MMCIS.

    This decision was given to me is not easy, so I gave the company many years of his life. However, to continue trading career at this information, I can not tension.

    Anyone who has ever traded on the Forex market itself, I understand. The most important thing here - it's endurance and self-control, and just enough to stumble once that all drain and finish his career, which has invested years. I realized that it's difficult to continue to trade under such conditions, and that I may stumble at this pressure and negate his entire career and all the indicators. That's why I decided to end career as a trader.

    I did a lot as a trader, I wrote three books, hundreds of articles and reviews, conducted numerous workshops and performances, but the main thing - I managed for many years keep records of trade in positive territory, and not in the reports or in the meantime. My trade for many years could watch people online with the help of the investor's password and monitor my bill passed through open sources. I am proud that I got to do, and, as they say, I want to go on a "positive note."

    Maybe once I decide to come back, but now I obviously need to pause and rest. I'm tired :).

    Also, this step was necessary to me to determine its position in relation to people who became clients MMSIS due to the belief it is in me. They ask me who you are in this situation - the customer or the company? I get somewhere between. On the one hand, I have a large client with a large bill, which has the same difficulties as they are, on the other - I'm an analyst in the company. I felt it was time for me to make a choice, and that choice in favor of investors. From tomorrow, I do not trade. Starting tomorrow, I'll be just a customer, like many of my friends and acquaintances who came to the company because of me.

    This does not mean that I'm in opposition to the management of the company, on the contrary, I will do everything to help her get out of the crisis. But now I'm going to do the part of investors (clients).

    My departure does not mean that I have lost confidence. Vice versa. I believe and I will fight for the company, because once I linked his name with it, because once I believed in her good purpose. I'm not someone who changes horses in midstream, or, as they say, "comprises the rear." I believe in the positive and the good initiatives of the company on the stock market, and I know why I decided then to be the face of their advertising campaign, and I know that the current difficulties in the company have arisen due to external factors and not because of the dishonesty of the company's management .

    However, I now believe that my help and the company will be more effective if I take off the load from the shoulders of the merchants. Describe how it is hard work, very hard. For this is my book. It is not just hard - it's unreal difficult. Discipline is the most severe, and over the years I got tired of it.

    Thanks to everyone who believed in me, thank you to everyone in the company MMCIS, thanks to everyone who worked these years with me and helped the company and all its employees to develop, thanks to everyone who supported and all those who attacked. It was a great part of the way, which I'm sure will be continued.

    I see that now the company to improve their situation, first of all, you need to refinance because of the frozen funds, and I'll try to help her find investors who can invest in it. In the near future, I decided to concentrate on this. I'm sure I can do it, the only question of time.
    He also said he is not gonna trade forex anymore.
    They are covering their tracks in Ukraine.


    The operators of this scam Alexander Volkov and Konstatin Kondakov are running for the Ukrainian congress on october 26th election.
    Kondakov is on the ticket of right-radical Lyashko's party.
    Volkov is on the ticket of current president Poroshenko's party.



    Looks like they will get the seats and an immunity from prosecution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
    Forgive me for so much crap in this post but i thought you should see what happens when ukrainian investors are being cheated

    1. I hope it was mud thrown in MMCIS office:




    2. A pile of cow manure left near MMCIS office in Dnepropetrovsk with a sign "MMCIS-bitches, Kondakov - a theif and fraudster , return our money":

    mmcis_manure.jpg




    3. Another office was set on fire


    4. Protests near another office (starts at 9:30)
    What's up with this? Everyone knows these are just harmless money games and no-one ever, ever gets hurt playing them. They only fail because the members weren't following the rules, recruiting enough new people to join, and talking bad about the company. Why would any member be upset with them to do these kind of things? Don't they realize it is all their fault?

    Hmm, wonder if Roman Komysa is our missing Roman Novak of ProSun fame? OK SARCASM & JOKING over.
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    It is not an usual HYIP/ponzi scam.
    People were recruited on the street, TV ads, their Forex daily reviews were aired on major russian and ukrainian financial programs,huge amount of investors were not even internet literate.
    It was operating in the open, #1 Ponzi in Ukraine, 99% of investors had no idea what they got into.


    As for Roman Novak link, this guy (according to that source) got out of jail in 2012, has 0 english language skill.
    Roman is very common name in slavic countries. There is no likely any link to ProSun, prosun is cheap change comparing to MMCIS.
    If there is any link to past ponzis it is "MillTrade", there are many things pointing to connection with MMCIS, and of course mmcis-investments was theirs as well as "Konadakov's assets management" registered in NY but did not wake up yet.



    I estimate millions investors in MMCIS.
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    few minutes ago MMCIS posted on all social pages that the payment processors and banks are freezing their assets, urging investors to stop complaining

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/forexmmcis/...65817280106590

    Quote Originally Posted by MMCIS/auto–translated
    Provocation with payment systems (New attack)
    Dear customers, those who are trying to destroy our company, controlled forums, calls You to complain in the payment system the company and some of You do it.
    As a consequence of the payment system block for us vital tools for transfer means for You!
    In other words, following provocateurs, You hurt yourself.
    If anyone of You believes that complaints to the payment systems and banks will help the withdrawal of You, You are mistaken!
    Complaints lead to locks and so missing tools and reduction of power input and output means, and therefore more complicated and so complex position of the company.
    We encourage You to be aware that some of You do, and stop.
    Those who write complaints, just got under the influence of the behaviors that Your hand is cut below the branch on which You sit!
    We encourage all who have filed to withdraw them, and those who receive such offers, not to react to them.
    Because if there is no payment instruments, at all desire the company will not be able to work until their recovery.

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    Volkov (founder of this MMCIS scam) runs for Ukrainian parlament on Oct 26th.

    MMCIS_volkov.jpg
    photo from : http://volkov.ua/

    social pool shows that Alexander Volkov is leading and 26.9% of voters (most) in his district will likely vote for him
    (33.1% on the graph is "undecided"):

    mmcis_volkov_representative.jpg
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    Milltrade - a Forex-kitchen and a ponzi scheme which was set the same way as MMCIS and was suspected to be affiliated with MMCIS also stopped paying at the same time as MMCIS, also started doing ID verifications.
    Their "The Golden 7" is exact replica of MMCIS's "Index Top 20" scheme.

    In past, MMCIS denied any connection to MillTrade, and even accused that MillTrade stole their technology and threaten to sue MillTrade.

    But an interesting update to MillTrade incorporation record in Russia happened on Oct 13, 2014 –

    a 50% shareholder of MillTrade is now the same Roman A. Komysa :)

    milltrade_komysa.jpg

    (full inc record attached)
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    Yesterday Komysa posted a letter to clients on all MMCIS social pages.

    In that Letter Roman states that the law enforcement is ignoring their requests to help them to stop a "raiders attack".


    Now they also blame their affiliated partners who "broke the agreements with MMCIS" and froze payment accounts.
    In this letter MMCIS threatens that in 1 week they will release all the information on partners (companies and individuals)
    who is responsible for blocking the money, if they (partners) do not unblock the accounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMCIS/translated
    ...
    the following Monday I will go to extreme measures, and break the confidentiality agreement with partners and publicly will name all intermediaries who blocked the money, give evidence of this, as well as publish the story of our relationship and the amount of money they earned (pocketed) dealing with our company.
    ...
    And now, it means for them , that tomorrow (one day), thousands of our customers will come to them, we will just say, where are their money, and how to take them out. In fact, many customers today already asking that of us and we will simply forward them. We have all the documents , and will prove that the money of our clients are not with us, but with them - those who now decided to play against our company.

    ...

    One such "partner" was established to be a russian payment processor RBK Money.
    A representative of RBK Money confirmed that they limited operations on account of MMCIS because of multiple complaints from clients
    and violation of terms by MMCIS, but representative said the block on MMCIS is only to prevent new incoming deposits to the account,
    MMCIS is not limited to pay the outgoing withdrawals at all.

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    Re: Forex-mmcis.com scam?

    Another Hilarious lie I dissected today.

    On Sept 20, 2014 MMCIS posted on their website that they won
    "Best Forex Broker in Asia" title at 13th China Guangzhou International Investment & Finance Expo .

    mmcis_best_broker2014a.jpg

    mmcis_best_broker2014b.jpg


    So is it a big deal? no. that expo is mostly clueless who they deal with. Like at 10th (2013) expo there was the Uinvest ponzi scheme exhibited there

    But anyway, i wanted to find some pictures of MMCIS being there.
    and to my surpise i could not find any, and it looks like they did not even attend there.

    Well, I said to myself, maybe they did not attend but still won the award and i started looking for pictures of when awards were given.

    And to my surprise:

    mmcis_best_broker2014c.jpg

    URL: Best Forex Broker in Asia 2014 Award | CommexFX


    Yep, Commexfx was the one who got that award, and who actually attended it.



    Common, how dumb the people are according to MMCIS ? :)


    P.S. Other awards you can see at the bottom of MMCIS site are not important, they are all from russian exhibitors where MMCIS had a financial stake at.

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    Where did all the brainwashed went to ?

    Hey guys, common, tell me again how great this "broker" is and how you making regular profits investing in their "Index Top 20" scheme :)

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    Re: Forex-mmcis.com scam?

    Roman A. Komysa posted today his promised dislosure of partner who holds the money

    He named DengiOnline (Money Online) - a russian money laundering service as the one who holds most of MMCIS money, as well he said he will do same for the rest "partners" if they still do not unfreeze assets.

    He also accused another "forex-broker"–competitor "Alpari" as orchestrator of attacks on MMCIS

    He also finally gave up and acknowledged that MillTrade forex-kitchen and an investment scheme is also now theirs.


    (interesting parts in Bold)

    Quote Originally Posted by MMCIS/auto-translated
    Address to clients of the President of the Company

    Dear clients of the company! As well as I promised a week ago, I again address to you to keep you informed procedures of passing of this difficult stage by the company. I will try to make the addresses to you weekly that you knew about all key processes for today.

    TREACHERY

    If to look back, I can accurately tell that the biggest loss of the company was caused by treachery. Employees and partners who betrayed the company, having gone on a string at attacking or having given in to thirst of a profit, struck it the biggest blow.

    I said earlier that our former employees damaged a database and drew unauthorized withdrawals of money from the company. It was, certainly, the strong blow for us, but we saw a way how to stand and as to cope with it. We thought up algorithm of restoration of databases and blocking of opportunity in the future to make unauthorized payments to somebody. The order No. 142 had to help us with this question, and it really helped, having allowed to start the companies over again to work normally, let and with limits.

    Today the situation became complicated even more, actually to a limit. We were betrayed by our key partners who were part of the company. And it isn't simple any more people who got paid are people who for many years went together with us nearby and provided activity of the main functions of the company.

    Today I can note that we were betrayed by those who was responsible for input and output of funds to clients, and a liquidity of positions to Interbank. We were betrayed by those who always got the maximum profit on work of the company and was responsible for financial side of a question of its work.

    Having used a difficult situation of the company, traitors decided to take client means and many other company funds, having appropriated them.
    A week ago I still amused myself hopes that we will manage to force to return by negotiations them money that we could do payments to people, however week of unsuccessful discussions didn't lead to any result.

    I promised all clients that if in a week I will have no result, I will make public all process round blocking of money, and I keep the promise.

    I declare that the lion's share of money of clients of the FOREX MMCIS group company is at the Dengi Online (Money Online) company (dengionline.com) which positions itself as payment system.

    It is at the moment obvious to me that owners of the Money Online company decided to appropriate simply money of clients of FOREX MMCIS group and under cover-ups refuse to return them.

    But we don't intend to give up, and we will use the best efforts in order that money of our clients returned them. For this purpose we will appeal both to court and to law enforcement agencies and we will simply tell clients as they can take away the money at "Money Online".
    For us an act of the Money Online company that other as banal theft, and today I declare that personally I, as well as all employees, faithful to the company, will make everything in order that the stolen means were returned, and organizers of theft were punished.

    HISTORY OF RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MONEY ONLINE COMPANY

    The Money Online company developed in parallel with the MMSIS company and actually all the time was the aggregator of financial streams of FOREX MMCIS group and if to look logically, was financial heart of the company.

    Via various payment tools which were organized by the Money Online company, money from clients was accepted, and also went them back. Except input and output of funds, the company through the offshore under control to it brought money for the auction to Interbank and answered to the FOREX MMCIS group company for operations on input-output of money to banks and brokers for trade implementation, as well as for a refund to people when they wanted to remove the deposit.

    Thus, considerable part of all company funds of FOREX MMCIS group always I was under control "Money online", and the center of liquidity of MMCIS was under control "Money online".

    Actually MMSIS and "Money online" was always one company which developed activity and scales of work in the FOREX market for many years.

    For years of work we had confidential relations, and many schemes weren't even fixed by contracts, we always took the word each other as partners and partners with one purposes. We resolved every day tens issues when it was necessary to remove quickly money from InterBank, or the money right there accepted for the whole day from credit cards to send to the account of the big customer, for example, to WebMoney. All this was done by the Money Online company. It was responsible for converting of funds from one payment system in another, for withdrawal of funds on Interbank and back, for their reception and payment to people. On each logical link the percent of the commission for "Money online" which made its profit which for all the time of work is measured by millions of dollars was provided.

    If to look at circulation of money in FOREX MMCIS group, it will be visible that exactly "Money online" received always the lion's share of profit on activity of MMSIS. "Money online" drew the interest at reception of money, is farther when sending than them on Interbank, after that for their return back to Russia and even for payment to the specific person. The MMSIS company gained income only from spreads which most part left on payment of the commissions "Money online".

    For decrease in commission expenses and expansion of geography of work, and also for strengthening of safety of payment FOREX MMCIS group mechanisms decided to obtain the license in Europe and to diversify cash flows. I participated in this process, and the Money Online company which as the main operator of money had to transfer them from work through an offshore in work on the European market. The Money Online company became the initiator of start of process of verification in MMSIS to transfer means to the adjustable sphere and to fulfill requirements of the regulator with which "Money online" allegedly conducted negotiations on an occasion of withdrawal of funds in the legal sphere.



    Today, looking at a situation at the end, it is possible to assume that already course with verification could be than other as the first actions of the Money Online company with the purpose to do much harm and in the future to appropriate to MMSIS means of clients which they had under control. Because today what the Money Online company unambiguously does says that it is involved in attacks to the MMSIS company from within and participated in process of destabilization of our work.

    Negotiations which lasted two weeks with the head of the security service "Money online" Yury Telman and one of the owners Igor Ivchenko, didn't bring any results.
    The former partners and colleagues simply turned into lawyers opponents who began written communication with the requirement of providing various documents from MMSIS on issues which were resolved orally or by correspondence earlier. The Money Online company declares in the letters that very much wants to return money to clients of MMSIS, however in practice does nothing for this purpose, but, on the contrary, does everything that to drag out this process, and the taken money was appropriated.

    Using what not all moments were documentary described, now representatives "Money online" try to overwind some moments in logic of our work and to reduce scales of the participation.

    Perhaps, they it is simple, as well as other forwards, decided that we won't defend up to the end the interests and interests of our clients and we will throw everything. But they were mistaken!

    We have enough documents to confirm that money of our clients is at the Money Online company. And we are sure that this company won't manage to keep them and to avoid punishment. We have on hands many contracts with them, we know their many legal entities, an offshore, payment tools and electronic purses.

    Our employees who resolved with them issues of input-output earlier, are ready to give evidences, our clients have confirmations of payments, and the main thing we have registers of clients which did payment through "Money online" and received payments through this company back.

    I promise that I will make everything that to return illegally stolen money, and I will use for this purpose all tools available to me.

    PLAN OF ACTION

    1. Soon we plan to prepare and submit statements of claim for "Money online" with documentary confirmations of our relations and that money of the FOREX MMCIS group company is blocked exactly here, with the purpose to return illegally taken money.

    2. We plan to file in law enforcement agencies a petition for commission by the management of the Money Online company of plunder of money which they under the law could hold only at the relevant decision of court which wasn't.

    3. To publish the address to our clients, with instructions how to help us to return money from Money Online system.
    All our actions will be public, and I promise to publish copies of the submitted applications with proofs and data of respondents and accused in order that each our client knew the truth, and the one who really stands behind problems in the FOREX MMCIS group company.

    Despite all this, we don't plan to give up and we plan to continue work, we work on search of investors who can fill the center of liquidity and resume work of the company. We are sure that to make it really. We are sure that we will make it sooner or later – a question only in time.

    BLOCKING OF FUNDS IN OTHER SYSTEMS

    "Money online" not the only payment system which was connected to attack to MMSIS, and we consider that this arrangement is coordinated by our direct competitors. Says about it even that from the site "Money Online" in the section of partners the MMSIS logo disappeared, and instead of it there was a logo of the company Alapri which was convicted of aggressive actions against our company with the purpose to stop its work.
    As for the name of other payment systems, so far I don't tell their names as I still have a hope for return of means of our clients by them. I hope that on an example "Money online" they will understand that we won't be silent, and will return that took. If they don't make it, soon I will publish also their data, in the same way, as well as in the relation "Money online" and I will take in relation to them all possible steps with the purpose to return means of clients of MMSIS. We have on hands all contracts, correspondences and proofs to make it – a question only of time.
    Another thing is that at this time out-of-pocket we won't be able to work and trade, and on it and count payment systems. Perhaps they count what we will have no money for lawyers to win courts? Perhaps. But we already agreed with lawyers who will go all the way and to fight for the truth.

    Besides, the blocked company funds are and in some banks with which we also still conduct negotiations. And also we have all supporting documents which in case of a non-return of means we will publish.

    MILL TRADE

    We absorbed the MILL TRADE company. It was difficult process at difficult history of relationship, but we decided that will be so correct.
    Initially the MILL TRADE company was created by part of top managers of MMCIS who broke away, and our relations were very unfriendly, and even at the beginning of attack to MMSIS came into the judicial plane. However after the MILL TRADE company I came to us for the help as met the same difficulties, as we.
    It happened because attacking the MMCIS company, attacked also the MILL TRADE company, thinking that it is affiliated with MMSIS.

    Independently the MILL TRADE company couldn't consult and therefore decided on absorption, and absolutely free, in exchange to the aid in opposition and restoration of liquidity.

    We didn't see for ourselves a difference that to rescue one company that two - and decided to take this step.
    Soon rules of work of both companies will be synchronized, and key departments are joint.

    In the companies there will be a uniform financial service, a support service and financial monitoring. It will allow to release additional human resources for optimization of work during the crisis period.
    We kept this information in secret according to the contract on nondisclosure between MMCIS and MILL TRADE which worked until completion of legal procedure of absorption. Today it is complete.

    ORDER NO. 142

    Today it is possible to note that the order No. 142 was the effective tool and, perhaps, it caused an aggravation and blocking of our fixed assets in the Money Online company as our opponents saw that the company started being restored. And if not treacherous actions from outside "Money online", it is possible to claim with confidence that we would leave dive and would return to a normal rhythm work. Today at us not only the blockage by number of demands, but also isn't enough liquidity, and also there are no sufficient tools for workmanship of demands.

    In this regard, today I signed addition to the order No. 142 which decided:

    1. Once again to cancel all pending withdrawals submitted till 27.10 with the purpose to unload financial department.

    2. To expand the term of possible submission of the subsequent wd request till 14 days.

    3. To change the term of processing of the demand till 14 calendar days, having equated time of processing of demands by the time of their possible repeated giving.

    4. To apply all actions of the order No. 142 and additions to it to clients of the MILL TRADE company.

    5. To reduce staff of a support service of the company for decrease in account part, having left only support by means of E-mail of messages.


    CONCLUSION

    Further work of the company will depend on behavior of the payment systems which blocked money and reactions of law enforcement authorities to our statements. It is clear that out-of-pocket the company won't be able to work and will be compelled to suspend the work, having left only legal department for upholding of affairs in vessels and government bodies.

    Anyway, whatever occurred, we will inform you on all changes on the site of the company and on social networks.
    Also anyway we won't close the company and sooner or later we will reanimate it - either after the won vessels or after finding of refinancing.

    We won't give up and we will fight up to the end because MMCIS for us is more, than the company is our life.

    We already have the reserve plan of revival even at loss of all assets, but it will be real only in a year.

    Even at the worst options we will simply not sit and wait – we will achieve justice and return of the taken means in the shortest possible time. It is able to allow us to start over again to work, as earlier, even if with partial liquidity and restrictions.

    For us truth! Our purposes and acts never were criminal, and we have no place and there is nothing to run! I believe that it wasn't considered by those who attacked us!

    Not to hide the truth about capture of money of MMCIS by payment systems and banks, and we will speak about it publicly, and we are ready to answer all up to the end. We believe that to us will be possible to pass it and to revive the company.

    In end I want to tell many thanks to all our clients who in spite of the fact that their means are blocked, continue to trust in the company and to support us. Thank you! For the sake of you we will pass this way and we will revive the company that on it costed!

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