Thread: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??

I still don't get the concept of charging a merchant for the privilege of giving something away that they can do for free themselves.

They are trying to "scare" merchants that an army of customers will show up if they play along and it will be worth it :)

In the world of network marketing, it only needs to sound plausible to scam people. And it also sounds so much better when you think you're gonna make a gazillion dollars. Reality is a different matter yet people continue to believe.

Originally Posted by Whip

I still don't get the concept of charging a merchant for the privilege of giving something away that they can do for free themselves.

Even the Beepxtra 2.75% charge seems pie in the sky for most business. Much less the double the discount model Flexkon is trying to push. They are pricing these things like retailers are at 40% profit margin and this is just a little change. I could see a Nickel per transaction, or the S&H Greenstamps way- a customer has spent $1000 at participating merchants they can get a lawn chair or ice chest.

There are businesses where I look for a coupon and generally won't go without. The neighborhood kids sell a bonus book which has two car wash coupons, so I go twice a year. Coupons or no, I am not going 12 times. Does the FK discount change behavior, I suspect not? And couldn't a non FK merchant just give a discount to people who ask?

All the technical failures aside, seems more and more like a pipe dream.


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Originally Posted by Whip

I still don't get the concept of charging a merchant for the privilege of giving something away that they can do for free themselves.

The explanation I was given last summer, when "introduced" to it, is that FlexKom is providing an advertising platform for the shop. The shop publishes the new special offer, or discount of the week, and FlexKom has a database of customers who are (a) in the market for that product and (b) in that local area, thereby drawing that customer in through "targeted" advertising, whereas the customer would have been ignorant of the special offer otherwise, and would have not been a customer.

My main objection at that point, last year when told this, was that it seems to me that there needs to be a "threshold" population level in a certain area, in order for it to work. In other words, it sounds plausible for central London, if you truly do have the customer database, and only for products which are good for "snap" or "impulse" purchases - like pizza. At that time, I just couldn't see how they would accumulate the millions of customers using the app that would be needed. Who would install a "spam app"? Just because the spam is "targeted"?

*** Breaking News ***

Stone me dead and **** me sideways! Today, near to where I live, in the UK, I saw a shop, that had a FlexKom logo in their window, next to the "We accept Visa" logo. On their service desk, I could see some FlexKom leaflets. I couldn't see a POS device, but it might have been behind the till or something.

The shop is a genuine high street shop, selling printer ink cartridges and similar products. I've made a few purchases there over the years, but not loads.

So this is a chance to ask or say something to a shop owner, in order to learn more about this. I'm quite happy to go in there and begin a conversation.

Please suggest what questions I should ask, or what I could / should say.

(Please remember that I want to stay friendly with the shop - I may yet need some printer ink in the future )

Originally Posted by Stewart

Please suggest what questions I should ask, or what I could / should say.

The first time when you go in there, do it when there are little to no other customers in the shop so that the store owner has all the time for a little chat with you. Then purchase something and don't mention Flexkom at all. Just pay and leave.
The shop owner should bring up Flexkom by himself. Otherwise the system wouldn't work, right? Flexkom sales reps believe that store owners will make tons of new Flexkom customers so that they (being the sales reps) can all benefit from it.

If the store owner fails to mention Flexkom at a quiet time in the store, then that tells us something about the willingness of store owners to make new Flexkom customers and/or use the system at all.

When you guys do get a conversation about Flexkom (if the store owner failed to mention Flexkom, just come back a couple of hours/days later), you could first start asking what he thinks are the benefits for him.
How does Flexkom make more customers for him?
How exactly can the store advertise on the Flexkom platform?
How many Flexkom transactios does he make on a typical day, and how much revenue does that generate for Flexkom?

Then you can ask questions that relate to you as customer;
How safe is the system? Are your personal data safe with Flexkom?
Does the discount also apply if you do not want to use Flexkom? And can you get a bit more discount if the Flexkom system is not used during the transaction?

If you're feeling like it, you could also ask the store owners opinion on these matters;
How does he feel about it that there are quite a few Flexkom sales reps that get a portion of his turnover, without doing anything for it? (the magical passive income)
How does he feel about it that he's using a system that's also (or; in the first place) a pyramid scheme?
Is he aware of the lies being told to Flexkom sales reps about the business opportunity?

Is he also an affiliate and at what level? That would be my first question.

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And what does the owner think about the heads of Flexkom and top promoters being linked to pyramid schemes in the past and victims losing money? Banners Broker, Lyoness, and IQ-Concept to name a few. Is he even aware of that? Maybe it's time to enlighten him if he isn't.

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Why people don't find this concerning is beyond me. Frankly, I cannot comprehend it. If any affiliate would like to explain their reasoning for ignoring the past history of scamming individuals, I'm all ears. All I can figure is that greed and the lure of riches overtakes common sense or they too are scammers. I suppose desperation in third world countries could be an excuse, but not for the educated, affluent types living in normal civilization. Enough info is available about Flexkom now that for even the newbie, who has made their first mistake in the networking/MLM/ponzi business, should see the light.

Originally Posted by freighttrain

The first time when you go in there, do it when there are little to no other customers in the shop so that the store owner has all the time for a little chat with you. Then purchase something and don't mention Flexkom at all. Just pay and leave.
The shop owner should bring up Flexkom by himself. Otherwise the system wouldn't work, right? Flexkom sales reps believe that store owners will make tons of new Flexkom customers so that they (being the sales reps) can all benefit from it.

If the store owner fails to mention Flexkom at a quiet time in the store, then that tells us something about the willingness of store owners to make new Flexkom customers and/or use the system at all.

Ok, so I got a new black printer ink cartridge. There was no one else in the shop. Nothing was said or mentioned about FlexKom, but the leaflets are there in a little display holder.

Onto phase two ....

Anyone know where to find a list of merchants so people know where to go?

This guy might have a list.

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Originally Posted by Char

Anyone know where to find a list of merchants so people know where to go?

A list like that would be as hard to find as rocking horse droppings.

If Flexkom were to release such a list, the whole world would know how unsuccessful the business is, how few real customers Flexkom has and how the bulk of Flexkom "members" are in it for recruiting others into the pyramid.

Originally Posted by Stewart

Ok, so I got a new black printer ink cartridge. There was no one else in the shop. Nothing was said or mentioned about FlexKom, but the leaflets are there in a little display holder.

Onto phase two ....

So the sales rep who signed up that store is certainly not getting any richer.

Originally Posted by Char

Anyone know where to find a list of merchants so people know where to go?

The only way is to get the FlexApp on your smartphone. If you do not own a smartphone, then Flexkom is not for you.
If you have got the FlexApp, then you will have to go on a journey to find a sales rep of Flexkom. You need him to activate the app. Without a sales rep, the app can not be activated. If you do not know a sales rep near you, then Flexkom is not for you.

This again shows how little thought there has been put into Flexkom.
Let's imagine that Flexkom really has a great system and gets some coverage on a big TV show. All of the viewers would like to use Flexkom. But they can't just download and use the Flexkom app, as they would need to find a sales rep.

If you have succeeded in installing the app and finding a Flexkom sales rep, then you can see a list of stores near you. But most of them do not actually use Flexkom. I believe that Hooters has been discussed earlier. Hooters was mentioned in the app. Only the Hooters did not know anything about this. Now they're removed from the FlexApp.

The spamming of the app reviews by suckers affiliates is hilarious. the flexapp allegedly has 98 reviews but there are only about 20 left that are 5 stars and all in English*. Driscoll the scammer reviewed he flexcard app and said the same thing he said about the banners broker ponzi. Shocking I know.

*Went back again and more loaded so it must have been an issue with my phone.

Things are evolving AS USUAL when it comes to these "change the world, get in early, phenomenal, retire on residual "opportunities".

Lightbulbs are coming on in twitter land.
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‪#‎Flexkom‬ Obtainer Magazine claims income for two GTM'S out of the 90,000 that was recently claimed on a public radio broadcast by a National Director, GTM and member of the advisory board for USA .

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‪#‎Flexkom‬ Obtainer Magazine claims income for two GTM'S out of the 90,000 that was recently claimed on a public radio broadcast by a National Director, GTM and member of the advisory board for USA .
Ask yourself a question why is every positive article ever writen about Flexkom from obtainer Magazine? Why is this income below unable to be verified? Why did Volker say turkey does 280 thousand pounds a day after taxes in November of 2013.
Why did Flexkom Collect over 1 Million Dollars from purchasers(investors) in Georgia last weekend for the POS 4 and say it will take 30 Business days to get delivered.
The same weekend they announce they have a pos 5 and you can order those and have them in 14 days.
They have 100's of GTM that paid for terminals months ago and they still have not received them like myself. They Took our Money 6 Months ago and still have not delivered. The large percentage of us don't want the terminals any more and just want our money back. They don't answer calls email or communicate with people at all.
If I was a merchant I would worry that first I have to give them a big deposit to get my service turned on and hope my money is safe. Then if I have a problem the company does not call there sales people back so what are the odds they will call the merchant back.

I am just thinking out loud tonight but things are not adding up for me and I think there will be lots of unhappy purchasers in 30 60 90 days.

Stay tuned for more information that does not add up.

Naci Acis
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954,000 USD
TURKEY
Salih Kilic
FLEXKOM
44,000 USD
528,000 USD
TURKEY

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Longcore admits he was "stupid" about Flexkom.

Originally Posted by Char

Longcore admits he was "stupid" about Flexkom.

he should just admit he's 'stupid' and get lost.

Another broken arrow. These beepers are doing all the work for us now:)

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Is it True that the Flexkom USA leaders have put a deal together with Steven Aust public company VRDT to take Flexkom USA to the Stock exchange?
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Is it True that the Flexkom USA leaders have put a deal together with Steven Aust public company VRDT to buy Flexkom USA because they don't have faith in Flexkom International?
Is it true the new USA company will make there own terminals in california and will be able to do credit card processing ?
Is it true that The KTM event in Atlanta Georgia was considered a failure by Flexkom international because they sold less then 2000k Terminals.
Is it true the Flexkom USA leaders have had and will continue to have to pay their own way to leadership events because they are unable to meet the minimum requirement.
Is it true as many USA Flexkom Leaders have said in public meetings that Flexkom paid 6 Million Dollars and now own a Bank.
Is it true that The USA only has 200 Active Global team members after 1 Year of operation in the USA?
Is it true that Attorney General in several states have and open investigation on the Flexkom leaders in those prospective states ?
Is it true that Flexkom has sold 25K POS 4 devices world wide ?
Is it true that you can only find 4000 Merchants on the App?
Is it true that 1000's of GTM's around the Globe are still waiting on Terminals?
Put your questions on here and maybe we can get them all answered !" http://on.fb.me/1p218S8

I'm having a slow Saturday:).

Looks like Ian Driscoll has a new website and a new "opportunity". Rockwell-Partners Hyip 3.5% a day.
Already a thread on MMG: Rockwell Partners - Rockwell-partners.com

Ian Driscoll uk flexkom network marketing expert

Lol, "Network Marketing Expert" involving people in scams I'd add. But really, is there any other type of NWM?

Originally Posted by Char

I'm having a slow Saturday:).

Looks like Ian Driscoll has a new website and a new "opportunity". Rockwell-Partners Hyip 3.5% a day.
Already a thread on MMG: Rockwell Partners - Rockwell-partners.com

Ian Driscoll uk flexkom network marketing expert

Lol, "Network Marketing Expert" involving people in scams I'd add. But really, is there any other type of NWM?

Ian is devolving. Rockwell is just flat out ponzi w/out the pretense of a "program".
Judging from the advertising slowing down it later in its life cycle.

Hmmmmm?

This lady Deborah Livingston of Rockwell Partners seem to have two identities.
She is also known as Nicole Young over on Share Results site strange?

Be careful Ian it looks like you may be getting involved in yet another scam.

Just how unlucky can one guy be?

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Originally Posted by Fat City, LA

Ian is devolving. Rockwell is just flat out ponzi w/out the pretense of a "program".
Judging from the advertising slowing down it later in its life cycle.

Looks like the first post hit MMG Ponzi forum on March 6, 2014. As a funny side note, one poster complained that he was the first to start the thread but it got deleted and someone else got the first post with their link. That poster was complaining about how unfair it was. Lol

Have to wonder if Driscoll will be phasing out Flexkom? And strangely enough, he still has Banners Broker on his list of credits. Scammers feeling that past Ponzis are an accolade really says so much about NWM.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Flexk...53709781338460

There is a new post on Facebook about Flexkom losing a court case in Turkey. Unfortunately, there is no translation available. Anyone have info on this?

Originally Posted by Char

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Flexk...53709781338460

There is a new post on Facebook about Flexkom losing a court case in Turkey. Unfortunately, there is no translation available. Anyone have info on this?

looks like it's from 2013

Originally Posted by Whip

looks like it's from 2013

Yes but I think the ruling is new information although I could be mistaken.