Thread: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??

Im just curious. Have people in the US received any checks yet?

Originally Posted by Char

Im just curious. Have people in the US received any checks yet?

No Checks

We have a Visa card we transfer the money on there or direct to our Bank account. Yes we get paid every week without fail.

@Watsco Thanks for confirming what I have heard. In fact, I have heard some of the early Investors turned Promoters have received more than $100,000 in commissions and overrides for getting others
to Invest and pay the $2,200. As we pointed out earlier, they are getting paid to recruit others into the MLM scheme even though the actual service is in ONLY "beta testing" currently.

Is it legal to get paid to recruit in your state Watsco?

Originally Posted by watsco

No Checks

We have a Visa card we transfer the money on there or direct to our Bank account. Yes we get paid every week without fail.

Thanks, you've just confirmed that Flexkom is a pyramid scheme.

You recruit others and get paid for that. There is no product being sold, making recruiting others the sole purpose of joining Flexkom.

That explains why you can not answer the questions. There is no answer to these questions, as Flexkom is nothing but a pyramid scheme.

Originally Posted by watsco

... Yes we get paid every week without fail.

For What ? :o

Originally Posted by watsco

No Checks

We have a Visa card we transfer the money on there or direct to our Bank account. Yes we get paid every week without fail.

Watsco, Thank you for answering my question and it does appear that you are genuine in your belief that this is a real opportunity. However, your presence here suggests that there might be a little voice inside you that is unsure. We are not your enemy. Many of us have been scammed once and were so infuriated that we were duped that we've made it a hobby/mission to warn others. Now, it's easy to pick a scam when you know what to look for and this one has it all.

For one minute set aside the focus on the product, service, cards, opportunity, or whatever and ask yourself about the people behind this organization. It has been pointed out numerous times that the leaders have a track record. Read the blogs from the european community and how this is a scam. You are getting paid for recruiting as there is no product. And the list goes on......

I hope you will continue to post here with your information and we will give you ours.

Here is what it looks like when NOT going so well goes well

Proof is relative but when you see stores in all parts of the world using FlexKom, well maybe it is time to put 2 & 2 together.

http://flexbiztoday.com/video/jasonmarksprogram.html

Originally Posted by watsco

Here is what it looks like when NOT going so well goes well

That transaction took far too long for a busy store.
I wouldn't want to be at the back of a long line of customers all wanting to do a Flexkom transaction, I think I would walk out.
Customers prattling about with their mobile phones taking pictures of the Flexkom POS & possible poor mobile data signal strength, sod that for a lark!

Watsco - if you did even bothered to do 10 minutes worth of research, you would know the Promoters in Turkey said the same thing.
Flexkom Scam Turkey - Germany & the Netherlands : Scams
Andrew Penman: Is FlexKom REALLY 'the future of business' or just another hopeless 'get rich quick' scheme? - Andrew Penman - Mirror Online

We did the math and 2 & 2 DID NOT EQUAL 5.

Don't you see the pattern here? Flexkom opens a NEW COUNTRY and gets people like yourself to SELL THE DEAL to their friends, in the case of the USA, that would be $2,200. They put out a few units
and then take videos to PROVE their system works. In fact, this doesn't prove ANYTHING. They so-called Flexkom System has yet to experience ANY KIND of reach in the 4 1/2 years ANYWHERE.

Where Flexkom has been "SUCCESSFUL" is in their ability to get PROMOTERS like yourself to sell the deal to others.

EXAMPLE - Of the COMMISSIONS you have been paid so far, what percentage came from ACTUAL CUSTOMERS USING THE SYSTEM?

AND.....why not ask your LEADERS (or some of the many who have come and gone) the same question about ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD where Flexkom has sold their deal to others?

Watsco - come on man - don't you see the pattern here? Or, as I actually believe, you see it but don't want to admit it. Why? You and others who have promoted this MLM scheme
are TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD to turn back now.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

That transaction took far too long for a busy store.
I wouldn't want to be at the back of a long line of customers all wanting to do a Flexkom transaction, I think I would walk out.
Customers prattling about with their mobile phones taking pictures of the Flexkom POS & possible poor mobile data signal strength, sod that for a lark!

Here are few more why not:

How about where the Terminal sits? I am sure it can be knocked down on the floor. Or maybe someone could punch in a million dollars when the clerk turns her head. Or maybe the math is off in the system. Or maybe it was staged anyway so then it wont matter if it took so long because the store doesn't exist in real life. Did I catch the clerk unplugging it at the end of the transaction? If I go to their website it says nothing about FlexKom, it was for sure staged. The terminal was to expensive. QR codes are not really going to work they say. Why did we have our own terminal they should be able to use their own tablet for less money. There is no proof the system is working anywhere this video included. People don't use APPs most apps are only used once. merchants do not want to pay for this. The math doesn't work out at all. To many GTM's in an area. They shouldn't charge for a license before the system is proven. Prove the numbers before you can sell a license. The app doesn't work. They didn't sell 9,500 terminals in Paris as it states in the below Video from Paris.

http://flexbiztoday.com/video/jasonmarksprogram.html

Or maybe, just maybe this is actually all real. Is it a scam or isn't it? You decide!

Watsco,
OK, we get it. You are reading our questions but don't want to answer them, which is fine.
But if you don't mind, I WILL ANSWER yours.

QR CODES - Sure they work. But why would you ask your customers to go through the hassle of downloading MORE APPS onto their mobile phone in order to READ THEM?
Why QR Codes Are Dead. (And 6 Other Things You Should Know About Mobile.)

Source: Why QR Codes Are Dead. (And 6 Other Things You Should Know About Mobile.) | @AskJamieTurner
Pete Morawski • 2 months ago
And here I was just about to start using QR codes. I guess I'll scrap that now :)
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Jamie Turner Mod Pete Morawski • 2 months ago
Hi Pete -- You an still use them, it's just that they won't be around for much longer. Maybe 2 to 3 years. Good luck!

"They shouldn't charge for a license before the system is proven. Prove the numbers before you can sell a license."

Watsco - hmmmmmm - Flexkom has had 4 1/2 years to perfect their so-called SYSTEM yet in the good ole USA, here you sit with a few terminals in "beta test" mode. WHY?
I have seen other Flexkom distributors talk about the lack of quality management at Flexkom being the problem. Others have talked about issues with the POS (you got the name right at least). I even read where in Turkey the POS turned itself off after 2 hours of not being used. Seriously? There are videos where the CEO of Flexkom uses this accuse for the fiasco in launching Turkey.

So, yes....Flexkom should have proven their system before selling people like you $4,000,000 worth of what - an opportunity to make money on others doing the same.
And that Mr. Watsco, is the classic pyramid scheme.

Now your turn. The actual results to date speak for themselves. Figures DON'T LIE but as we know, LIARS DO FIGURE.
Give it your best shot. The State of Georgia does not allow for this type of activity (selling opportunity for profit) as we have already shown. What percentage of YOUR COMMISSIONS have come from the selling of the OPPORTUNITY? What percentage have come from the CUSTOMER USING THE SYSTEM? You can use ANYONE that has EVER been in Flexkom as your example. The floor is yours.

"They shouldn't charge for a license before the system is proven. Prove the numbers before you can sell a license."

Watsco - hmmmmmm - Flexkom has had 4 1/2 years to perfect their so-called SYSTEM yet in the good ole USA, here you sit with a few terminals in "beta test" mode. WHY?
I have seen other Flexkom distributors talk about the lack of quality management at Flexkom being the problem. Others have talked about issues with the POS (you got the name right at least). I even read where in Turkey the POS turned itself off after 2 hours of not being used. Seriously? There are videos where the CEO of Flexkom uses this excuse for the fiasco in launching Turkey.

So, yes....Flexkom should have proven their system before selling people like you $4,000,000 worth of what - an opportunity to make money for just SELLING THE DEAL to others.
And that Mr. Watsco, is the classic pyramid scheme.

Now your turn. The actual results to date speak for themselves. Figures DON'T LIE but as we know, LIARS DO FIGURE.
Give it your best shot. The State of Georgia does not allow for this type of activity (selling opportunity for profit) as we have already shown. What percentage of YOUR COMMISSIONS have come from the selling of the OPPORTUNITY? What percentage have come from the CUSTOMER USING THE SYSTEM? You can use ANYONE that has EVER been in Flexkom as your example. The floor is yours.

Typically how ALL transactions in ALL Flexkom video's always end up with a total new balance of 2.00 Flexmoneys. Even if someone just did an transaction in which he saves more than 2.00 Flexmoneys, like the one in Leipzig:FlexKom in Action In Germany At Il Corso Pizzeria in Leipzig - YouTube.

Watsco, Flexkom is not live yet. Not in the USA, not in Europe, even not in Turkey. Over here in Europe, they are blaming the government. New regulations would be the reason that Flexkom is not yet live over here. Allthough the regulations that Flexkom is referring to were already known for years to come, it struck Flexkom by surprise. Or maybe Flexkom is just using this as a handy excuse. ;)

Originally Posted by MLM Broken Model

Watsco - if you did even bothered to do 10 minutes worth of research, you would know the Promoters in Turkey said the same thing.
Flexkom Scam Turkey - Germany & the Netherlands : Scams
Andrew Penman: Is FlexKom REALLY 'the future of business' or just another hopeless 'get rich quick' scheme? - Andrew Penman - Mirror Online

We did the math and 2 & 2 DID NOT EQUAL 5.

Don't you see the pattern here? Flexkom opens a NEW COUNTRY and gets people like yourself to SELL THE DEAL to their friends, in the case of the USA, that would be $2,200. They put out a few units
and then take videos to PROVE their system works. In fact, this doesn't prove ANYTHING. They so-called Flexkom System has yet to experience ANY KIND of reach in the 4 1/2 years ANYWHERE.

Where Flexkom has been "SUCCESSFUL" is in their ability to get PROMOTERS like yourself to sell the deal to others.

EXAMPLE - Of the COMMISSIONS you have been paid so far, what percentage came from ACTUAL CUSTOMERS USING THE SYSTEM?

AND.....why not ask your LEADERS (or some of the many who have come and gone) the same question about ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD where Flexkom has sold their deal to others?

Watsco - come on man - don't you see the pattern here? Or, as I actually believe, you see it but don't want to admit it. Why? You and others who have promoted this MLM scheme
are TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD to turn back now.

So the system was proven in Turkey. Turkey had issues but is doing great. I know you guys have problem with Turkey but that doesn't change the fact that the math worked. The new system has been developed and is launching everywhere as we speak. You can't stop this process when you have begun. You think they should stop recruiting while they build the new system? Why so? What about competitors? What if this is what we say it is? Then you think the multi billion dollar companies will just wait for us to start recruiting across the world when one market goes well? They would crush our little company, if we can't do it fast they will take over. So we come in under the radar and when it is to late everyone realizes what we have. The system is just a matter of time. Who funds this if it wasn't for the reps who will share the profits. Rome wasn't built in one day and so it goes with everything. You think it should go faster? They started recruiting reps in Europe Nov 2012 it is now March 2014 15 months and now it goes live everywhere should it have been 12 months? Or 10 months? I guess you have done something similar and know it should go faster? Maybe they should have funded this out of their own pockets? Maybe they should have used a big money source and kept us out of it? Many ways to do it but this is the way they chose and it is now happening. So when this expands all over the world in the next 8 months will you then learn something?

Time will tell is all I can say

Originally Posted by freighttrain

Typically how ALL transactions in ALL Flexkom video's always end up with a total new balance of 2.00 Flexmoneys. Even if someone just did an transaction in which he saves more than 2.00 Flexmoneys, like the one in Leipzig:FlexKom in Action In Germany At Il Corso Pizzeria in Leipzig - YouTube.

Watsco, Flexkom is not live yet. Not in the USA, not in Europe, even not in Turkey. Over here in Europe, they are blaming the government. New regulations would be the reason that Flexkom is not yet live over here. Allthough the regulations that Flexkom is referring to were already known for years to come, it struck Flexkom by surprise. Or maybe Flexkom is just using this as a handy excuse. ;)

Good you are watching the videos maybe watch Paris and tell me if the amounts change So then maybe your ALL is not all. In the video in USA the amount added was in grey and the Flexmoney in 2 was in green. So they grey wasn't added in the total not sure why that is but it is part of a process of beta testing I hear we are testing our payment process here still.

http://flexbiztoday.com/video/jasonmarksprogram.html

@watsco

Does the information regarding the past history of Flexkom's founders and promoters give you any pause for concern?

Originally Posted by watsco

I guess you have done something similar and know it should go faster?
Maybe they should have funded this out of their own pockets?
Maybe they should have used a big money source and kept us out of it?

YES X 3

Originally Posted by watsco

Many ways to do it but this is the way they chose and it is now happening.

This way ends the same 100% of the time.

Originally Posted by watsco

So when this expands all over the world in the next 8 months will you then learn something?

There is no reason any prudent person would believe given the dismal track record of Flexkom's "leadership" that 8 months from now will be any different than today. The only thing that might change is that you will be asking better questions, and demanding better answers before involving yourself and others with Blue Sky Merchants.

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Originally Posted by MLM Broken Model

"They shouldn't charge for a license before the system is proven. Prove the numbers before you can sell a license."

Watsco - hmmmmmm - Flexkom has had 4 1/2 years to perfect their so-called SYSTEM yet in the good ole USA, here you sit with a few terminals in "beta test" mode. WHY?
I have seen other Flexkom distributors talk about the lack of quality management at Flexkom being the problem. Others have talked about issues with the POS (you got the name right at least). I even read where in Turkey the POS turned itself off after 2 hours of not being used. Seriously? There are videos where the CEO of Flexkom uses this excuse for the fiasco in launching Turkey.

So, yes....Flexkom should have proven their system before selling people like you $4,000,000 worth of what - an opportunity to make money for just SELLING THE DEAL to others.
And that Mr. Watsco, is the classic pyramid scheme.

Now your turn. The actual results to date speak for themselves. Figures DON'T LIE but as we know, LIARS DO FIGURE.
Give it your best shot. The State of Georgia does not allow for this type of activity (selling opportunity for profit) as we have already shown. What percentage of YOUR COMMISSIONS have come from the selling of the OPPORTUNITY? What percentage have come from the CUSTOMER USING THE SYSTEM? You can use ANYONE that has EVER been in Flexkom as your example. The floor is yours.

All my commissions have come from selling packages of QR code apps with credit for international calls on them. This is a customer recruitment incentive. If the QR codes wont end up in customers hands then yes it's a pyramid scheme. But when they go to customers and they end up in use the no its not. So at this point it is not because the attorney general rule is 18 months to show that we have customers. You have to have distributors before you can have customers

Originally Posted by Char

@watsco

Does the information regarding the past history of Flexkom's founders and promoters give you any pause for concern?

Tell me exactly what past? Who and what did he do? What is your source to confirm the story about it? Are there any convictions?Or is this just more internet rumor based stuff?

No Not everytime sprint was started this way and Prime America and Keller Williams Realty. In many scenarios it is a perfect match as it is in our situation.

To all of you who got burnt in a scam.

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Watsco - Interesting that you bring up legitimate Direct Sales Business Model to try and prove your pyramid scheme. Not sure it worked though.
Doing search now to see if Primerica charges $2,200 for the RIGHT TO recruit others.

Well, nice try (again) Watsco.....that is NOT their model at all.

I would say the Flexkom Model is more like Zeek Rewards in that people got paid for basically RECRUITING others into the SCHEME.
Oh.....and they always referred to the nagging issue of "customers" too. But as we all know NOW......the customer model never actually happened.

See for yourself - Clawbacks filed against Zeek insiders & winners
Clawbacks filed against Zeek insiders & winners | BehindMLM

Watsco - let's face it. You are just the newest promoter of the Flexkom Investment Program. There have been MANY prior and sadly, (because people like you failed to do your own due diligence) there will be more. How long will the regulators take before enough people complain?

Here is a list I found online (yes, Watsco.....just search Flexkom on Bing, Yahoo, Google etc) of once Gungho Flexkom distributors who are no longer involved:
Top people who have resigned Flexkcom in Turkey

Nermin DOĞAN SME DİRECTOR... REsignaton
Mustafa KAYMAZ- SME DİRECTOR RESİGNATİON
EROL PAKEL - FLEXKOM %25 OWNERS... RESİGNATİON
ADEM EROĞLU , FLEXKOM PT CAREER... HE HAVE GOT 5000 DİSTRİBUTOR... RESİGNATİON...
İLYAS ÖZSOY - ND CAREER - RESİGNATİON
YASİN KILIÇ - PT CAREER - 15000 DİSTRİBUTOR, RESİGNATİON..
STEFAN HOSTETTLER - SWİTZERLAND CEO - RESİGNATİON..

Please kindly contribute if you find anything else. This is worth investigating before you put any money in.

What happened to Karl Roller? He was the CEO for Flexkom in the USA. There are several versions of THIS STORY too.