Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
Yes I do call entire MLM or whichever you call your scams these day ( network marketing, direct sales ) a scam, it is illegal in several countries and immoral at least.



Got it wrong, not everybody was so excited readin Kyosaki, Big secret, listening pimps in hotel halls and other delusional crap and woke up one day and said "I CAN BE POSITIVE, I CAN DO IT, I VISUALIZE IT NOW" and went on scamming around other folks.

Some can smell a scam miles away.



You got this right.



Lets look at that from another point, 90% of MLM participants loose money, from remaining, 5% make some not sufficient even call it an earning, and the rest are living on top of pyramid.
Do you want to split who are women who are men? than i would say 75% of victims of MLM are women according to your numbers.

Organizers should be locked up and promoters who violate the laws once they are in place. regardless if they are men or women or what kind of crap they trying to sell, those crap products are the only excuse for a damn pyramid. that product has no chance of survival in real market, otherwise it would not use a pyramid but gain retail sales traditional (non-scam) ways.

Sooner or later those housewifes will understand the error of their ways and what pyramid marketing is.
How long you have been in this crap ? one day you will come to the same conclusions, unless of course you the top one and rip money on other people's losses.






Legal for now. and not around the world.

"Niksam is confused as to the challenges in business period. Maybe because he has never succeeded in business or maybe because he did succeed he has a skewed idea of how easy or simple it is in general. The majority of businesses fail in general. Most people shouldn't start a business. They don't have what it takes. They are inexperienced and they don't have the patience anyway to stay around long enough to learn. The Network marketing industry has gone to an area that is actually trying to make it easier and easier. Less money to start opens the industry up for people who think they just sign up and then they will make tons of money. But it is hard to succeed in business not just in MLM. You have to stay in a while. build up your skills and network of contacts who are professional. The majority fail yes because they don't stay around to succeed. So many times I have recruited a person who then never calls me back crazy but true. The numbers "Niksam" is posting is a natural way life, sorts out winners from losers. In school we have winners and losers. In sports the same, in society the same. MLM never said here guaranteed money everyone will succeed. (maybe a rep does but that is on him) And if the person thought that it was a guaranteed ticket to riches then he is just ignorant.

An entrepreneur has to take responsibility for it's own decisions in business. Some companies are complete scams. Some companies have had success for many decades and people have found success working with such companies.

"Niksam" Thinks MLM should have better numbers. A higher percent of winners. It is ridiculous to think MLM should outperform the real world. 6% make more than $35,000 a year. With such a low start up cost and such high potential it should be less people who succeed than in real life businesses. My attempts have been increasingly better as I have matured in the industry. At least in Network marketing someone who doesn't have enough to start a traditional business could succeed in MLM and I have many many friends who have that story.

take a look at the real world results

Startup Business Failure Rate By Industry | Statistic Brain

In business you will fail unless you fight for your life to succeed. Nothing different in MLM fight is just the same.

When "Niksam" says they lost money it's not like a business loss in the real world. My cousin lost $250,000 in a restaurant venture. I lost $200 in a mlm venture. What hurts more? Usually in MLM it starts with a purchase of a few hundred dollars of product. If I use all the product is it really a loss or is it a purchase and consumption. The fee to sell is usually about $50. So all the drama attached to "Niksams" numbers are mostly normal business failures for the most part. Trust me I see it all the time. Many people just love to be involved they don't even care about the success part which is funny but true. So I suggest you let people be people let them fail, let them try, let them figure it out and many failures lead to successes as well don't forget one has to fail many times before succeeding usually.