Thread: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

He claims they have been trading for under two years. To be listed on the NYSE there must be five years of annual shareholder reports (plus lots of other criteria must be met).

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This guy is spouting absolute garbage.


From their Flexkom International welcomes you to a new world of network marketing. home page, there is this quote.


When corporate sites are developed they go through extensive testing by the developers before going live, spelling mistakes and incorrect usage of language just DO NOT appear. A translator fluent in Turkish and English should have been employed to approve the final drafts.

The word "FAZE" would not have crept in (in my opinion) in any corporate site/project I've ever worked on.

For people whose first language is not English, the word should have been "PHASE" which means stage (EG the final stage or final phase).

Faze on the other hand means to disconcert; to worry; to disturb, (and an alteration of feeze which means to drive away or frighten) which given the thread's title is rather amusing, or possibly even karma.

They have no presence in ANY market from what I can see.

Originally Posted by Whip

They have no presence in ANY market from what I can see.

Me either, would be nice to see if any Turkish nationals can tell us about their experiences of purchasing through FlexKon .

One thing that's nice to see is that this *opportunity* has been spotted solely because of Ian Driscoll's involvement, he's often one of the 1st in the UK to be involved in any new internet marketing scheme, because of his involvement with BB and other *opportunities*, IMHO he's definitely marked anything he's involved in as worth taking a closer look at.

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

Me either, would be nice to see if any Turkish nationals can tell us about their experiences of purchasing through FlexKon .

One thing that's nice to see is that this *opportunity* has been spotted solely because of Ian Driscoll's involvement, he's often one of the 1st in the UK to be involved in any new internet marketing scheme, because of his involvement with BB and other *opportunities*, IMHO he's definitely marked anything he's involved in as worth taking a closer look at.

It might be equally useful to see what is happening in Germany as FlexKom has strong german ties and a large number of entries on Google appear in German rather than Turkish. Mustafa Keskin is German based as are others in their so called Management Team. (Don't forget that Germany has a large Turkish immigrant population and there are many German speaking Turks)

Anyone here understand the German entries?

Someone showed me this opportunity today. If it is MLM, then it has no wealth warning on its websites and has no cooling off period.
If it is a franchise, is it a member of the British Franchise Association?

Why was it tested in Turkey of all places.

All MLMs are scams whether they are technically "legal" or not because they make more money off their down lines than they do off the product or service they are selling. Which MLM scheme do you know of that is legit and makes big money for everyone and not just the initiators sitting pretty at the top of the pyramid?

Originally Posted by Tank

All MLMs are scams whether they are technically "legal" or not because they make more money off their down lines than they do off the product or service they are selling. Which MLM scheme do you know of that is legit and makes big money for everyone and not just the initiators sitting pretty at the top of the pyramid?

There is no need to even get into an discussion about the pros and cons of MLM when discussing FlexKom.

It is not even an MLM.

It is a ponzi fraud made to LOOK like an MLM.

Hello, I'm Italian and I wanted to have news of new Flexkom. Does anyone know if it is a scam or is it an opportunity?? Thanks to those who want to respond

Originally Posted by pachita

Hello, I'm Italian and I wanted to have news of new Flexkom. Does anyone know if it is a scam or is it an opportunity?? Thanks to those who want to respond

In here you will find all the negative. So to find out the real story you have to look in other places:

1. The idea. The idea is brilliant! Creating one system for all small businesses on the planet. But with a twist. Pay the businesses when customers shop elsewhere to allow the businesses to share profits and reach with each other.

2. The technology. Do they have it? Go to itunes app store and search for the FlexKom App you can download it now. Watch the video of the terminal I shot in New port Beach CA it shows the terminal doing some actual transactions. To create an app and to get it accepted on Itunes is costly and you have to go through a strict process. This means FlexKom spent a great deal of money on it's creation. Why would they go through the trouble? They could just say we will have it soon. App Dev 101: How Can You Guarantee Your App Will Be Accepted Into the App Store? - YouTube

3. The 4 locations that FlexKom has offices. Why not send someone who is in the area to an office to meet the people who work for FlexKom? I was in Vegas and toured the offices there. Huge space not cheap. Scams don't want to spend money on offices they usually have fake adresses or short term office leasing. To get an office like the one in Vegas you have sign and long term lease which cost a lot of money and you are obligated to pay out the full term which could be 3-5 years or more not a good idea if you are a scam.

4. Awards from other organizations FlexKom International was awarded the Seal of Quality Certificate from EBCON
and representation by a reputable law firm Baker & McKenzie

5. It wont be long now that FlexKom will go into 3rd phase in more countries and all stores will be active in many areas. If you have doubt then wait until then. But check and see how many licenses are available where you live because when they have the amount of sales reps they need they will stop selling the license. Austria is sold out UK is sold out in some areas. No more for sale period. So if you miss it you miss it forever.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

Austria is sold out UK is sold out in some areas. No more for sale period. So if you miss it you miss it forever.

I'll take that chance.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

I'll take that chance.

Most likely you aren't what FlexKom is looking for so don't worry you aren't missing out. FlexKom is clear that they are only looking for strong business to business sales people. I doubt you are that.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

4. Awards from other organizations FlexKom International was awarded the Seal of Quality Certificate from EBCON
and representation by a reputable law firm Baker & McKenzie

I do hope you stick around and set the record straight about this great opportunity. Can you elaborate on the Seal of Quality Certificate and all the organizations past and present that have qualified for this prestigious award. So far I found two references to EBCON under an image search, this impressive plaque:

EBCON1.JPG

And this reference linking back to Empower Network, the other next greatest bestest in the world opportunity that all the same pimps are pushing.

EBCON.JPG

And is this the law firm that you are so proud of? Law Firm Baker McKenzie Sued For $600 Million - Forbes

Baker Mckenzie.jpg

Enron, Arthur Anderson, Bernie Madoff and the most vile criminals in the world can find an attorney.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

I do hope you stick around and set the record straight about this great opportunity. Can you elaborate on the Seal of Quality Certificate and all the organizations past and present that have qualified for this prestigious award. So far I found two references to EBCON under an image search, this impressive plaque:

EBCON1.JPG

And this reference linking back to Empower Network, the other next greatest bestest in the world opportunity that all the same pimps are pushing.

EBCON.JPG

And is this the law firm that you are so proud of? Law Firm Baker McKenzie Sued For $600 Million - Forbes

Baker Mckenzie.jpg

Enron, Arthur Anderson, Bernie Madoff and the most vile criminals in the world can find an attorney.

...but which EBCON is it? There are two. A real one. And a 'not so real' one.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

I do hope you stick around and set the record straight about this great opportunity. Can you elaborate on the Seal of Quality Certificate and all the organizations past and present that have qualified for this prestigious award. So far I found two references to EBCON under an image search, this impressive plaque:

EBCON1.JPG

And this reference linking back to Empower Network, the other next greatest bestest in the world opportunity that all the same pimps are pushing.

EBCON.JPG

And is this the law firm that you are so proud of? Law Firm Baker McKenzie Sued For $600 Million - Forbes

Baker Mckenzie.jpg

Enron, Arthur Anderson, Bernie Madoff and the most vile criminals in the world can find an attorney.

Does this blogger "ribhsaw" have any idea of how the FlexKom system works? So the readers can know he is qualified to give them advice on the company? Or is he just a guy who goes out to find anything negative he can find to cast doubt on a company? That is pretty easy to do it doesn't take much, just enter "COMPANY" And "LAWSUIT" into google search take the link and post here. Nothing to it. Instead it would be interesting if he looked at the model and had comments on the technology pay structure or even system. Challenge the actual business model. But as many of the negative posters here on these boards do, they just do what any idiot can do....search, cut and paste. I do hope people see through that ridiculous waste of energy and time.

Why not respond to this. If "ribshaw owned a company, a store or a restaurant and wanted to send out a marketing message for free to their clients today about a special they have tonight with an offer that expires tonight straight to their text message with a video. What system is available to accomplish that? If they wanted to reward their best customers for spending money at their place frequently what system is in place that can do that? If that store wanted to reach only women ages 35-45 with a video to their smart phone what system is in place that can do that? And then that same system would track their customers so they would earn income from customers shopping in other places. What system on this planet is able to do that? Lets see what "ribshaw" has to say.... What system is out there that the small stores can use to keep up with the bigger chain stores in loyalty system cash back etc. Nothing I have seen. Have you the reader seen anything that you like yet? Please tell me I would like to know. Do you still get those cards that you have to bring back to get a stamp on it or have them clip it?

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

In here you will find all the negative. So to find out the real story you have to look in other places:

Let me guess. For some good, reliable information one has to visit one of the Flexkom meetings?

1. The idea. The idea is brilliant! Creating one system for all small businesses on the planet. But with a twist. Pay the businesses when customers shop elsewhere to allow the businesses to share profits and reach with each other.

Calling your own ideal brilliant is a bit awkward, but that's my opinion. But, you do realize that this sharing of profits really means that a shop owner has to pay another shop owner if he serves a customer of this other shop? On top of that, the businesses have to fund an entire piramid of people in the so called upline. Why would the small and mid-size business want to pay millions and millions of dollars each month of residual income to people who have done little more than signing them up with this system?

2. The technology. Do they have it? Go to itunes app store and search for the FlexKom App you can download it now. Watch the video of the terminal I shot in New port Beach CA it shows the terminal doing some actual transactions. To create an app and to get it accepted on Itunes is costly and you have to go through a strict process. This means FlexKom spent a great deal of money on it's creation. Why would they go through the trouble? They could just say we will have it soon. App Dev 101: How Can You Guarantee Your App Will Be Accepted Into the App Store? - YouTube

Remind you that among the most populair apps are the apps that make fart sounds. Really funny, but not expensive to make. Also, it took months afther the initial release to get the main function of the Flexkom App working. What this function is? VOIP. Revolutionary. Now you can make calls with your smartphone! (sarcasm mode). But really, have you tried to pay with the app in Turkye shops yet? Oh wait.. The app is not available in Turkye..

3. The 4 locations that FlexKom has offices. Why not send someone who is in the area to an office to meet the people who work for FlexKom? I was in Vegas and toured the offices there. Huge space not cheap. Scams don't want to spend money on offices they usually have fake adresses or short term office leasing. To get an office like the one in Vegas you have sign and long term lease which cost a lot of money and you are obligated to pay out the full term which could be 3-5 years or more not a good idea if you are a scam.

Its funny that you mention Vegas. Gambling is legal in Vegas. Most contries define piramid schemes as (mostly illegal) gambling. Also, scams make millions of dollars. With that money, one can easly rent a piece of office somewhere. Stating that Flexkom is not a scam BECAUSE of the offices they rent, is a bit silly if you ask me.

4. Awards from other organizations FlexKom International was awarded the Seal of Quality Certificate from EBCON
and representation by a reputable law firm Baker & McKenzie

EBCON is fake as you can see. Also, the most crooked villains have the most expensive lawyers. A serial murderer gets lots of attention in the media. So, to be the lawyer of a serial killer gets you some nice attention, too. Not that Flexkom is killing people, but I think you know what I mean.

5. But check and see how many licenses are available where you live because when they have the amount of sales reps they need they will stop selling the license. Austria is sold out UK is sold out in some areas. No more for sale period. So if you miss it you miss it forever.!

Classic scam method. Get in now, pay now or you'll be too late!

Originally Posted by freighttrain

Let me guess. For some good, reliable information one has to visit one of the Flexkom meetings?

Here is another blogger "freighttrain". What a piece or work we have here. Yes absolutely it's a good idea for a person who wants to get information to go to a FlexKom meeting and ask the tough questions. Where else would be a good place? If I wanted to buy a BMW should I go to Jaguar to ask them how the BMW's are? Now what "freighttrain" does do is he goes to the public bathroom and reads the walls for his information and then starts posting and saying look what I can do I can search on google. But I am to lazy to analyze the business model or attend a meeting. BUT I am the expert still because I am so smart I don't have to know jack about the system or company I got MY information from the stall I just pissed in.

Originally Posted by freighttrain

Calling your own ideal brilliant is a bit awkward, but that's my opinion. But, you do realize that this sharing of profits really means that a shop owner has to pay another shop owner if he serves a customer of this other shop? On top of that, the businesses have to fund an entire piramid of people in the so called upline. Why would the small and mid-size business want to pay millions and millions of dollars each month of residual income to people who have done little more than signing them up with this system?

Finally a logical question was asked. Why would the business want to pay for the service? Why would a business pay Groupon? (groupon usually doesn't make the business any money) The business will be sending out marketing to customers and creating it's own discounts and offers. They decide how much to offer and when. So for instance if a restaurant has a slow night and they could use more customers that night they may want to send out an offer that attracts the customers to his place. Is it a new idea that marketing costs money? Does it matter where the money goes? Or does it matter how much they spend and then how much they make? So the blogger "freighttrain is trying to take you attention to who gets paid. Thats like saying why would a businesses want to spend millions on flyers and postage to companies that are making money printing and sending flyers? Because they work would be a good answer. But in todays world flyers do not work anymore. what works is apps and smart phone marketing. So the answer is because it works. The other small detail the blogger "freighttrain" doesn't want to you to think about is we include the business in the pay plan when they sign up their customers to the system we pay them too. So now the businesses are making money as well. is "freighttrain" going to suggest that the business has an issue with making money from when their customers shop elsewhere? What FlexKom does is takes the expense of marketing and turns it into an income. So no money is paid until they get the money from the customer. The customer you are asking why would they pay FlexKom. That customer wouldn't be in their store unless they got the marketing message from the system itself. So the bottom line here is "freighttrain" simply doesn't get it, this blogger knows very little about the subject he tries to advice you on. Just the idea that "freighttrain" thinks FlexKom was my idea is sad. On top of that his mind is backwards, instead of looking at what is in it for him he looks first at what others are making and then he says I will not have anyone make money off me that will not happen. "freighttrain" is just a cho cho train I am afraid.

Originally Posted by freighttrain

Remind you that among the most populair apps are the apps that make fart sounds. Really funny, but not expensive to make. Also, it took months afther the initial release to get the main function of the Flexkom App working. What this function is? VOIP. Revolutionary. Now you can make calls with your smartphone! (sarcasm mode). But really, have you tried to pay with the app in Turkye shops yet? Oh wait.. The app is not available in Turkye..
Its funny that you mention Vegas. Gambling is legal in Vegas. Most contries define piramid schemes as (mostly illegal) gambling. Also, scams make millions of dollars. With that money, one can easly rent a piece of office somewhere. Stating that Flexkom is not a scam BECAUSE of the offices they rent, is a bit silly if you ask me.

Bla bla bla again a clear sign of this blogger "freighttrain" not making any sense. What does gambling and office space have to do with each other? The offices in Las Vegas NV are 10,000 SQ feet. Here in the USA your commercial leases are usually 3-5 years long. The rate is around $1.50 per square foot in henderson $15,000 a month times 3 years = 1/2 million dollar commitment at least. The point you would need understand here is you can verify the address you can phone the building and find out how they do their leases and then you can see that maybe if a company is planning on being around and doing real business maybe they would go for a big space just like the one in NV and invest a little more for the future growth of FlexKom. SCAM's have a tendency to not want to waste money on rent. And there we are again responding to this garbage is not my favorite use of time but it's sometimes necessary since bloggers like "freighttrain" take their useless efforts so seriously I guess it's just what we have to do.


EBCON is fake as you can see. Also, the most crooked villains have the most expensive lawyers. A serial murderer gets lots of attention in the media. So, to be the lawyer of a serial killer gets you some nice attention, too. Not that Flexkom is killing people, but I think you know what I mean.

"freighttrain" again just bathroom wall stuff. Call them and ask them if they are fake Organisation-Strategy - EBCON - Economy Banking Consulting - European Business Club



Classic scam method. Get in now, pay now or you'll be too late![/QUOTE]

Classic scam blogger lazy and low IQ. Don't fall for this useless stuff

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

Me either, would be nice to see if any Turkish nationals can tell us about their experiences of purchasing through FlexKon .

One thing that's nice to see is that this *opportunity* has been spotted solely because of Ian Driscoll's involvement, he's often one of the 1st in the UK to be involved in any new internet marketing scheme, because of his involvement with BB and other *opportunities*, IMHO he's definitely marked anything he's involved in as worth taking a closer look at.

He seems to be UK's ken russo

Originally Posted by Whip

He seems to be UK's ken russo

I didn't know who russo was, after a little bit of googling, yes, he sounds a right shark.

Why do people with track records like this never appear to end up in prison ?, or appear never to be confronted?, or get beaten up etc (not suggesting anyone should).


But back to driscoll, if he is like this and this is another unsavoury scheme, why don't the Police take an interest, we do have Crimestoppers you know.