Thread: Banners Broker Question and answers

Originally Posted by tdstern

noname999,

Thank you, and dealing with Poyol will be fine.

Yes BB does have an official Twitter page,

Secondly, I can not give you the dates Mr. Smith went to University, however, he attended Ryerson University and holds a Bachelor of Commerce majoring in Information Technology with a minor in Communications.

I look forward to reading the questions by Poyol, and I will have the answers to you as quickly as I can put them together.

Thank You.

Now would that be the black Chris Smith or the white 'stock photo' Chris Smith?

Originally Posted by Whip

Now would that be the black Chris Smith or the white 'stock photo' Chris Smith?

have to say, just a tad disappointed already. Smith went to Ryerson, can't remember what year, doesn't want to tell us what year? Not a very transparent starting point I fear, given that this info can be of no other value to us than to prove the existence of a real Chris Smith. Thought he was a 'math genius' anyway?

Are the questions being put and answered by pm?

Originally Posted by Whip

Now would that be the black Chris Smith or the white 'stock photo' Chris Smith?

To be fair to Mr Stern I think it's probably best to lay off the sarcasm (tempting as it may be). Terry, if you could ascertain for us exactly when Mr Smith attended Ryerson that would be immensely helpful. That way your claims can be verified with the university. I'm sure you appreciate that answers along the lines of "I can not give you the dates Mr. Smith went to University" aren't really acceptable if you wish this exchange to be fruitful.

Terry: I was just wondering if you could answer my question as to who has/had control of the twitter account for BB, and if any tweets were ever removed? I know you are probably swamped with questions but just in case you missed it.

Sorry to be dim, but do we pm Poyol with our questions, is that how it's going to work?

Mr Stern has made the same offer on the comments part of Finch's blog, by the way.

I am always willing to listen to reasonable and sensible answers, but part of me still thinks "damage limitation".....

I'm away for the night. Back tomorrow at 9.30am

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Where you state you give every affiliate the opportunity to rectify I disagree.

My account was locked and funds withheld. I emailed support as requested but to date no reply.

I don't want to rejoin but do want my initial funding (investment) refunded.

Not only that but there has been proof posted in this thread of the heavy hitters 'misrepresenting' the alleged 'company' and nothing has been done to them.

I do hope that Terry is not going to be surprised if some people are not going to be convinced by what he says unless he can provide real hard evidence of what he says and real hard evidence of who he is. I also hope that he doesn't think that his appearance is going to distract us from examining BB (in whatever form it takes) as closely as we can.

I'm similarly dim Della.
Dont know where the Q + A went.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Sorry to be dim, but do we pm Poyol with our questions, is that how it's going to work?

Mr Stern has made the same offer on the comments part of Finch's blog, by the way.

I am always willing to listen to reasonable and sensible answers, but part of me still thinks "damage limitation".....

PM for you Della :)

Originally Posted by Theseus

To be fair to Mr Stern I think it's probably best to lay off the sarcasm (tempting as it may be). Terry, if you could ascertain for us exactly when Mr Smith attended Ryerson that would be immensely helpful. That way your claims can be verified with the university. I'm sure you appreciate that answers along the lines of "I can not give you the dates Mr. Smith went to University" aren't really acceptable if you wish this exchange to be fruitful.

It's a legitimate question. Don't you agree? Or have you already forgotten that they tried to pull that one?
I'm actually curious what kind of due diligence this person did before accepting this job.

From what I can gather, there will be a new thread set up especially for this Q&A session. Preferably, the only 2 people that will be posting there will be Terry and Poyol. Any questions you have should be PM'd to Poyol. He can then organise how he wishes.
I would think the best thing to do will be for each question to be dealt with and a conclusion reached by both parties, before a new question is tackled. This would help keep things simple and easy to follow. It also means that each subject will be explored thoroughly and avoids the chances of things being missed.

Originally Posted by Whip

It's a legitimate question. Don't you agree? Or have you already forgotten that they tried to pull that one?

Yes, they did it's a moot point now though, presuming of course they can provide sufficient information to allow the current incarnation to be correctly identified....

Originally Posted by noname999

From what I can gather, there will be a new thread set up especially for this Q&A session. Preferably, the only 2 people that will be posting there will be Terry and Poyol. Any questions you have should be PM'd to Poyol. He can then organise how he wishes.
I would think the best thing to do will be for each question to be dealt with and a conclusion reached by both parties, before a new question is tackled. This would help keep things simple and easy to follow. It also means that each subject will be explored thoroughly and avoids the chances of things being missed.

Or we could just do it here for everyone to participate in. And who is the judge of 'conclusion'? The shills have already determined that in this thread already.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Yes, they did it's a moot point now though, presuming of course they can provide sufficient information to allow the current incarnation to be correctly identified....

How is it moot when it's blatant deception?

Originally Posted by Whip

How is it moot when it's blatant deception?

Nope it's not a deception. It's called gagging people. And it's been done very neatly.

I have to agree, its not a moot point. There was a deception and this shouldn't be forgotten. People were told that stock picture was Chris Smith. The question we should be asking Terry is, why did they do that?

Mr Stern, I'd like to thank you for posting here, hopefully this will clear things up once and for all and I can THEN run my Banners Broker account with confidence.

I myself have many many questions, but for now will just sit back and see how things play out.

I for one am prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt at the outset and accept you at face value as being an honest and upstanding employee of Banners Broker who KNOWS that Banners Broker is not a scam and will do everything in his power to tell the whole truth.

I ask every other poster to stop the snide remarks, they are uncalled for and will get us nowhere, except to lower the credibility of this thread, please treat Mr Stern with respect, he's here to do a job (instill confidence in Banners Broker) and has put his neck on the line.

Having said all that, I think the first thing we ought to be doing is making certain that we are really conversing with Mr Stern, this could after all be someone attempting to impersonate him with the intention of causing damage to Banners Broker (by giving false information).

I'm sure Mr Stern can think of a way to prove he is who he claims to be.

Mr Stern

Why are affliates "Forced" to answer this question when they login to the dashboard

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I am unable to go to other functions like my e-wallet and manage inventory.

Is this survey mandatory to answer before being allowed to access other areas of the dashboard ?

Originally Posted by noname999

I have to agree, its not a moot point. There was a deception and this shouldn't be forgotten. People were told that stock picture was Chris Smith. The question we should be asking Terry is, why did they do that?

In the grand scheme of things it is of little or no importance, there are far more important points that need addressing. The danger of becoming hung up on minor points such as the use of a stock photo is that they may well choose to address such questions at the expense of more pressing issues. I'd be far more interested in learning the history to "the" Chris Smith as he had, until Mr Stern named a university, no backstory whatsoever.

However if they are willing to answer all questions that we put forward then I'm sure explaining why they felt the need to use an (apparently) stolen stock picture to represent their CEO will shed more light on the mindset behind the company.

I guess being objective is going to be difficult for some, which I understand of course, but as I said, I'm asking for some civility here as we move forward. If it turns into a flame war, I'm going to respectfully remove myself from the line of fire. We have a long road ahead of us it would seem.

Banners Broker vs Stellar Point - Stellar Point is an Independent Marketing Consultancy and BannersBroker is our client. BannersBroker is a sole proprietorship with Mr. Chris Smith as the proprietor. Stellar Point is owned by Mr. Rajiv Dixit, and BannersBroker albeit is our biggest client currently, they are not our only client. I am employed by Stellar Point, not Banners Broker, however, as it's in our client's interest, I am acting on their behalf in this matter. Mr. Dixit has never been an owner of BannersBroker, however, he is on the company's Advisory Board.

Twitter account - We have a new gentleman who's handling things here now. There was another person who handled the account, but we've since removed that responsibility since we determined they weren't accurately representing the information we wanted them to send out. Unfortunately I can't confirm whether tweets have been deleted or not prior to it changing hands. Not every company tweets their own information, some use a service. When that relationship falls apart, steps have to be taken to regain control. That's what's been done here, we've recently retaken control over the content being put out on our Twitter channel.

Chris Smith's Graduation - I'm sorry, but I'm not privy to that information at this time, I will however endevor to get that information from you. I personally think it has little bearing on the current subject matter, that being said, it is a question asked, so I'll attempt to answer the question as I agreed to. I will state that Mr. Smith is a black gentleman, and not a white one. I can't speak to the photo that was used as I haven't seen it.

With regards to terminating people's account for TOS breach. Many companies do this, including Google. Whenever an account holder decides to start talking negatively about the company they're with, the account holder is notified via email and their account is restricted until such time as we can ascertain what's actually transpired, or in some cases, outright cancel accounts. It is clearly marked in our Terms of Service as what can happen in the case of breach, and if so, that all funds will become forefeit. This is and has always been in our Terms of Service. It's always regrettable that situations like this take place, however, some people take it upon themselves to walk outside the lines, and we need to have recourse to either bring them back in, or enact penalties that attempt to dissuade such behaviour.

Let's be clear. Banners Broker isn't alone in this practice, and although it's not favorable to the person(s) it affects, companies have little recourse should people take it upon themselves to speak ill of the companies they work with. If we simply refunded the money for everyone who complained, people would simply complain in public forums and blogs about every little issue, rather than use the proper channels.

There has been a good deal of mistakes made in the terminology used to describe the company by affiliates, however, these terminology mistakes do not affect the model that the company operates under. As with any young company, there are likely to be mistakes that require addressing, some more pressing than others, however, the company itself isn't operating under malicious pretenses and is hoping to clear up any misconceptions about its practices and business model.

Originally Posted by tdstern

Twitter account - We have a new gentleman who's handling things here now. There was another person who handled the account, but we've since removed that responsibility since we determined they weren't accurately representing the information we wanted them to send out. Unfortunately I can't confirm whether tweets have been deleted or not prior to it changing hands. Not every company tweets their own information, some use a service. When that relationship falls apart, steps have to be taken to regain control. That's what's been done here, we've recently retaken control over the content being put out on our Twitter channel.

Who was the original person in charge of the account? Who is the new person in charge of the account? Can anyone else have put up tweets on the account?

Originally Posted by StevenHoward

Having said all that, I think the first thing we ought to be doing is making certain that we are really conversing with Mr Stern, this could after all be someone attempting to impersonate him with the intention of causing damage to Banners Broker (by giving false information).

I'm sure Mr Stern can think of a way to prove he is who he claims to be.

This can be difficult, since as you've put it, it can be quite easy to impersonate another in today's day-and-age, however, what I can tell you is...
I'm a member of the Freemasons, some have visited my LinkedIn profile to do research on me there. My title there states who I am and where I work, and I can be contacted there to verify my identity.
I also own a masonic jewellery website, which I can be contacted through, although I ask, that you respect it's a business, and not spam my email with hundreds of email. I think one would suffice.

Thank You.

Mr stern please advise who from bb am I able to contact in nz with my questions? who is NZ's representative?