Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Poyol

I was going to mention Promo121 yesterday.
It must be a joke.

No joke I'm afraid. But just like the choice network this is still in development. Going to compete with Facebook they say...

I see some of the shills have been rolled out again to lie about payments. But now it is not them being paid, its their 'friends'. Even though BB leadership have said it will be another week. Come on shills, at least make the lies believeable...

I think the phrase I have seen mentioned was 'probably' by the end of next week. Nothing like a bit of clarity to ease fears!

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

I think the phrase I have seen mentioned was 'probably' by the end of next week. Nothing like a bit of clarity to ease fears!

They are working off the same model as google did you know...

I GOT PAID TODAY....THANKS BB

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Payment Details
Date: November 06, 2012 12:46:02 AM
Amount Sent: $173.20 USD
Sender Name: Banners Broker
Sender Email: paybannersbroker@gmail.com
Reference Number: AD94D-A***F-89ACC
Message: BANNERS BROKER 11-06-12 Commission Payment -Withdrawal ID- 6****

April got paid today - doesn't say when she requested it though; however, I think even BB can afford $173.20 to payout. Any of the big guns gonna declare their payments?

Anyone inside Talking BS seeing any info on payments?

Originally Posted by Al Scream

Thanks. You mean I can even use the " i " word here!

We will allow it.

I can make up pretend payments as well...

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Payment Details
Date: November 02, 2012 08:05:02 AM
Amount Sent: $4567889545687455698874569554489434546548215445151 531.80 USD
Sender Name: Banners Broker
Sender Email: paybannersbroker@gmail.com
Reference Number: PG85D-A***F-66GBF
Message: BANNERS BROKER 11-02-12 Commission Payment -Withdrawal ID- 4****

Why defend something so readily with payment 'proof' if you know it's all legitimate?

*Sigh*

I think we should be a bit careful in assuming everyone that posts anything is making it up - it does make us look a bit bitchy!

The example above was intended to highlight that in all likelihood this person got paid, however;

a) proof of payment is not proof of it not being a ponzi
b) of course small amounts will be paid - it is the larger ones that BB will struggle
c) try to identify how long it actually took for the request

The reality is that some people will be getting paid and a lot more people won't. There are also people who genuinely believe they are part of the next big thing. They are effectively suckered into it.

I am not sure where each person comes into the pimps, shills and drones categories but I would guess this is a drone - they believe in what they are posting and are none the wiser to the business being a scam.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

they believe in what they are posting and are none the wiser to the business being a scam.

Nor do they care to be any the wiser.

At this end of HYIP ponzi, the remaining members are what would be defined in sales circles as "qualified prospects"

Think back to the beginnings of Banners broker and you realize these people have seen it all.

None of these delays are new to them.

In fact, if I were running a HYIP ponzi, I would do exactly as Banners Broker has done.

I'd have multiple "outages" in the early stages so that as the end draws near and slow or non payment becomes a necessity, true believers aren't lying when they tell newbies "it's happened before and is nothing to worry about"

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Nor do they care to be any the wiser.

But it is a little short sited to assumed that everyone in it is intent on conning and scamming people. They just believe the people within their peer group. It is the sponsors who are responsible, particularly if they don't share the same concerns with their upline.

Remember, I was in it for 10 months before I became certain of the nature of this. I trusted the people around me within it and was less inclined to go against their judgement.

I don't want to argue with people on here as we are after all on the same side of the fence. All I am saying is that rather than making ourselves look daft by bitching at everything lets do it to the right things in the right way!

@Phil: have you gone any further down the legal route to get your money back?

Originally Posted by noname999

@Phil: have you gone any further down the legal route to get your money back?

At present no, other than a couple of emails. I am holding off until later in the week when a) I have some more time b) time limits set expire c) I have a meeting with a legal friend of mine

Thought I'd share this with everyone.

Security has really tightened up at TalkingBB. I wonder what they could be afraid of in there?

I mean why does a legitimate company that sells advertising and shares the profits with its members need to protect itself from its own members?

ALL members must now enter the Existing members Approval Area to be verified before gaining access.

here it is:

verification.jpg

Banners Broker>>>>>BB>>>>Big Brother....

Originally Posted by Beethoven

Thought I'd share this with everyone.

Security has really tightened up at TalkingBB. I wonder what they could be afraid of in there?

I mean why does a legitimate company that sells advertising and shares the profits with its members need to protect itself from its own members?

ALL members must now enter the Existing members Approval Area to be verified before gaining access.

here it is:

verification.jpg

Hmmmmm, maybe it's because they are now rattled by what we show on here? Also to stop us sneaking in with our disguises on and slightly strange usernames ;) I am stating the obvious and finding it very hard not to be sarcastic.

This is not just a ponzi, it really is a cult! (Allegedly of course)

They really are rattled. I won't be able to get back in until I getting my account verified. I think we can guess whats going on there anyway.

And I am sure that everyone has seen this:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/banners-...ario-1a5fd.htm

But what you may not have seen is this:

Banners Broker Business Review in Toronto, ON - Mid-Western & Central Ontario BBB

Now this shows that Banners Broker is NOT BBB accredited which is something that someone (I can't remember who) claimed that it was recently.

The truth about lying is that you have to mix truth in somewhere along the line to make is plausible

Originally Posted by AshKen1

And I am sure that everyone has seen this:

Ripoff Report | Banners Broker | Complaint Review: 950224

But what you may not have seen is this:

Banners Broker Business Review in Toronto, ON - Mid-Western & Central Ontario BBB

Now this shows that Banners Broker is NOT BBB accredited which is something that someone (I can't remember who) claimed that it was recently.

The truth about lying is that you have to mix truth in somewhere along the line to make is plausible

Interestingly it does give it a B rating though. However, I note no complaints as yet. That could change shortly I am sure!

A report to the Report a rip off site could be in order also!

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Interestingly it does give it a B rating though. However, I note no complaints as yet.

Yes, it gives the factors for raising the rating as:

1. No complaints filed with BBB.
2. BBB has sufficient background information on this business.

1. will change soon enough and I find 2 very surprising. I wonder what background information they actually look for.

Most people who are not happy with a company do not think to file a complaint with the BBB. It is not the first thing they think of to do.

What would be interesting is if someone did file a complaint and see how BB handles it. This is part of what determines a BBB rating. Now if 20 or so would file a complaint, this would have an impact on the BBB rating. I say that because we know BB will just blow smoke up BBB's skirts in trying to dispute the complaints. But at least it would be on record and people could see the complaint and how it was answered.

I guess the secret handshake, the decoder ring, the special chant, and kissing the butts of the mods at BB forum is no longer good enough to get you into the inner sanctum. I think they should hire TSA screeners for the anal exam to access the forum.

I've pm'd you littleroundman

Gee it’s certainly a lot easier to create an advertiser account on BB than be able to discuss it on bah, bah bbtalk.
I created one account and was given the grand account number of 87. Then a while later created another one this time I’m 88. So BB certainly aren’t swamped with pesky advertising accounts for after 2 years in operation that have a total of 88 advertisers (and 2 of those are fake!).




Oh and when I logged on to #87 they had the nerve to use the dirty ROI word.
Do they have no shame!?

Banners Broker Network on Facebook

A friend who has also been following this thread has pointed out a couple more BB related sites that don't appear to have been mentioned here yet:

The Banner Suite - registered to a Chris Pearson (US)
bannersuite.jpg

bbdetails - registered to a Sandra Krytenberg (Aus)
bbdetails.jpg

Rick Krytenberg himself extolling the virtues of the Banners Broker fraud on Rick and Sandra Krytenbergs' bbdetails.com



Goodness, I've heard of advertising hype before, but, 13 BILLION ads, Sandra and Rick ???

13 BILLION ??? yet nobody has seen even a hundred of them ???

C'mon now, people, at least try and make Banners Broker seem legit.

13 BILLION ads, my a**



Oh, and by the way, that would be "ADS" as in "advertisements" not "ADDS" as in the opposite of subtract.

The dastardly Duo themselves Sandra and Rick Krytenberg on YouTube doing Dubli HYIP



Sandra Krytenbergs'profile on LinkedIn