Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

ok noname did you read my post?

Who in particular do you need?

I have edited my posts pm noname999 if you want to know my situation

I will check back in due time

I have sent you a pm.

Yeah, they really have people cornered now. As a matter of interest, has there been any orders telling people to stop visiting the likes of this thread, TG and MMG etc?

How can you stop people exercising their free will to look at stuff on the internet?

It may seem a stupid question, but how are BB going to "enforce" this if they do ban this kind of site?

Rhetorical questions these, no answers needed ;)

BB is watching you.

It's kind of like an Orwell nightmare, isn't it?

How long until they start banning user accounts for not logging in with a smile on their face?

Originally Posted by Martin88

BB is watching you.

It's kind of like an Orwell nightmare, isn't it?

How long until they start banning user accounts for not logging in with a smile on their face?

I was living 20 years in East Germany and I know very well what does it mean...The same words I was listening on radio and TV...WE ARE WATCHING YOU...what they said in fact was - We do not want you know the truth but those who know - they will be eliminated...I would say...all programs that sell illusions and expropriate the members by endorsing privileged ones - must and will fail,collapse.It was case with East Germany and it will be the case with BB

If Banners Broker & Jamie Waters do shut down the TalkingBB/Adverts Galore forums, Their members/victims will be more than welcome here.

They are already here, they just don't realise they're victims yet...

Looks like the troops are getting restless again. Complaining about payments.

It is definitely a recurring theme. You would think that to stop people complaining about payouts they would sort the issue out.

obviously we know the real reason.

Sadly the threat to shut peoples accounts if they say anything negative is very real as I found out.

It's a shame as whilst it is not good publicity the opportunity to rectify problems is a way to turn negative into a positive.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

It's a shame as whilst it is not good publicity the opportunity to rectify problems is a way to turn negative into a positive.

I'm sure if they could do something about it, they would.

As people are about to find out to their cost, there comes a point in the life of a HYIP ponzi where it's obvious new deposits are not matching withdrawals and there's little or no chance of the situation reversing, no matter how many "incentives" those behind the HYIP throw out.

Add in the fact November / December is the time when the true believer newbies who have been leaving their accounts intact as a form of saving for Christmas, try and withdraw, and there's no need to spell out what's going to happen.

I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who just passively watch the talking bb forum and don't say anything stupid for fear of getting their account shut down. I want to at least get the money that I put in back before I do anything.

Also I noticed a question earlier about them telling people not to visit sites like these on talking bb. Yes everywhere they tell people to simply ignore these sites and stop visiting them altogether etc.

Sent you a PM JVNB

Hi,
I'm new here, have no stake in this scheme, and had no prior interest/knowledge of HYIP schemes. I joined this forum because I found out that an acquaintance of mine had 'invested' in BB so I thought I'd look into it.

Consequently I read through this thread and most of the long thread on Talkgold and was struck by a side issue from the Talkgold thread that is causing me some concern. I'm posting it here rather than Talkgold as I feel this site is more secure as there's no possible conflicts of interest. I'm not saying anything bad about Talkgold - I just don't know.

My concern is about Talkgold user, Sascode3. He/she only posted on Talkgold between 28th and 30th May. He said he was doing due diligence on behalf of a group of potential investors. He had obviously already done his homework and was asking some pertinent questions about BB. Like here where he posted some early tweets from BB:

7th December 2010
"The Banners Broker Queue is at 6 Days to start Doubling! Where else can you double your money this quickly? A LOT of Members Doubled Today!"

22nd December 2010
"The time frame to double will always fluctuate, but currently we are at an amazing fast past with only 3 days to start doubling!"

8th january 2011
"We are at an AMAZING 2 days to start doubling!!!! This weekend only. Now is the time to buy Packages. Spread the word!"

22nd January 2011
"Welcome back the 2 DAY QUEUE! That's right, we are sitting at 2.5 days for you to start doubling your money. Buy a package now and get in!"

From the above tweets, does it seem like the company is advertising and getting revenue or just getting people to join the downline and then wait for someone else to join so they can double their money? I leave that for you to answer and all the forum readers to judge.

He was conversing through the painfully obvious shill, daveosm, because daveosm was in contact with Ian Driscoll, who I understand is the, Orwellian titled, "UK Leader" for BB.

Sascode3 kept asking for replies from the company, but daveosm, in his perma-role of mouthpiece to Driscoll/BB, kept wanting to arrange for them to meet up in person. Why would he want to do that? Anyway, eventually Sascode3 agreed to phone Driscoll but complained that Driscoll wouldn't answer him. Driscoll, now, of course, would be in possession of Sascode3's telephone number.

Sascode3's last post said he would let the thread readers or daveosm (it's not clear) know the outcome. Since then, nothing.

I know it's normal for forum members to come and go but this guy was obviously clued up, also very mature. He clearly wanted to get to the bottom of things and it looked like he may well do. He was very active in the short time he was there, and is unlikely just to drop his investigation suddenly as he was acting on behalf of others. So it doesn't really make sense to me that he would suddenly drop out of this discussion at the point where he, at last, got to speak to someone oficially representing BB. So why have we heard nothing more from him?

Of course, it could well be that he just moved his investigations elsewhere? Maybe he got through to Driscoll and was perfectly satisfied by his explanations - but then surely he would be even more likely to post if that were the case? Either way, satisfied or dissatisfied, from the way he conducted himself I'd expect him to report back as promised. He clearly wasn't some immature keyboard warrior or troll.

It just seems strange to me. Does anyone know more? It would make sense for Sascode3 to also follow this thread, so is he or any of the group that Sascode3 was representing here?

Sorry if this is total paranoia or a derail. Just nobody seems to have noticed this on Talkgold, so just thought I'd throw it out there.

Originally Posted by Al Scream

Hi,

Sascode3's last post said he would let the thread readers or daveosm (it's not clear) know the outcome. Since then, nothing.

.......

Of course, it could well be that he just moved his investigations elsewhere? Maybe he got through to Driscoll and was perfectly satisfied by his explanations - but then surely he would be even more likely to post if that were the case? Either way, satisfied or dissatisfied, from the way he conducted himself I'd expect him to report back as promised. He clearly wasn't some immature keyboard warrior or troll.

It just seems strange to me. Does anyone know more? It would make sense for Sascode3 to also follow this thread, so is he or any of the group that Sascode3 was representing here?

Sorry if this is total paranoia or a derail. Just nobody seems to have noticed this on Talkgold, so just thought I'd throw it out there.

Hi Al and welcome to the party.

I just wanted to acknowledge your post even though I know nothing about what happened to sascode3. We could speculate until the cows come home as to why this person disappeared from the forum, but I can understand why you are bothered about it.

Feel free to contribute what you can. This place is really nice, you can (pretty much) say what you like without the fear of someone confiscating accounts, blocking your input on the website etc.

:)

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Hi Al and welcome to the party.

I just wanted to acknowledge your post even though I know nothing about what happened to sascode3. We could speculate until the cows come home as to why this person disappeared from the forum, but I can understand why you are bothered about it.

Feel free to contribute what you can. This place is really nice, you can (pretty much) say what you like without the fear of someone confiscating accounts, blocking your input on the website etc.

:)

Thanks. You mean I can even use the " i " word here!

Originally Posted by Al Scream

Thanks. You mean I can even use the " i " word here!

We will allow it.

Doesn't matter what time of the day I check this site, there is always 20-50 guests checking this thread. I'm guessing affiliates are choosing to visit here as they are getting better information as to whats going on with the sinking ship that is BB.

Still getting the occassional shill over on Whirlpool too - another one today, valiantly trying to defend the indefensible.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Still getting the occassional shill over on Whirlpool too - another one today, valiantly trying to defend the indefensible.

I presume it is Marshall Law you are referring to.

You may have noticed that he refers to a time period of '27 days or so' for a yellow panel to cap. You might like to ask him how he feels that these yellow panels used to take 15 days to cap and now they are close to double that.

I love it when a shill does our work for us...

There are always one or two but less and less all the time.
Its heartening to see that the numbers on this thread are continuing to grow while those on the 'pro-ponzi' sites are dwindling all the time.

Most telling comments for me from Marshall Law on the whirlpool thread were these

I'm not advertising the BB business in these campaigns, rather I'm directing traffic to my other websites which sell my services in an unrelated area.

I don't know which websites my banners are on, I just read the reports that show my Impressions and Click-through rates.

I suppose if I was really keen I could setup something in Google Analytics and watch to see from where my visitors were coming, but I'm not that keen.

So you are not interested in where the click throughs are coming from. Surely this is the one vital piece of information that was most important? I use google analytics and can confirm that I got no click throughs from Banners Broker Ads.

The lack of interest in the actual 'business' itself is extremely worrying. It is clear that the members and affiliates are only concerned about how much money they are making and not where it comes from.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Most telling comments for me from Marshall Law on the whirlpool thread.... So you are not interested in where the click throughs are coming from...

I know, I was almost in hysterics reading his descriptions of how its meant to work. Its like something off a Monty Python sketch!!