Originally Posted by
waverider
Yes indeed, welcome to the BS world of RS ...
(whip - whatever your real name and mailing address may be - the justice systems of most countries on the planet assume innocence until guilt is proven. People from BB do not need to provide any answers to defend their decision to join BB and put some money into it, we don't have to justify our position, however you lot do, as you're alleging guilt by way of what appears to me mostly trivial and baseless material scrounged up off the net, from blog posts, linked in, facebook, twitter and such....) - and then make such allegations hiding behind screen-names without revealing your real name and a real mailing address????????? Seriously! talk about no credibility, just a bunch of cynical, disheartened schmucks with nothing better to do with your time.....
There's good reason for the drive-by-posters, some pop up and disappear after a little while, some join the ranks of the others who, like me, will be sticking around for a wee bit, first to get feel of what's being said around here, a bit like the farmer taking a look around to see what parasites, pests and whatever else might pose some risk to his crop. It certainly does keep this thread moving and most entertaining, but like everything else, the novelty value fades away as it's the same drivel over and over and over again.
To all BB-defenders out there, your time and efforts defending the banners broker business is as much a waste of effort and time trying to convert pro-climate change people to believe otherwise, or telling your local Jehovas Witness crowd their god doesn't exist and their whole religion is a scam. Hmm, need I mention Scientology?
If you're on the pro-BB side, remember it is not your job trying to defend what you consider to be a legitimate kind of business to a bunch of 9-5 employee mentality people who think otherwise with what amounts to largely irrelevant observations, screen captures from blogs and otherwise.
If you feel you've been let down, or you believe you have been mislead by BB or a BB affiliate, and you are facing difficulty getting paid, or getting a refund within the prescribed time period after joining, all countries have relevant consumer affairs or fair trading departments to deal with such matters. Might not get you the money you think is owed to you, but an increasing pattern of such complaints against a company, which eventually turns into a pattern of increasing complaints made formally to the relevant government department, will eventually turn the lawmakers' attention to the company, and if in the unlikely event that BB is in fact a Ponzi, or is shown to have sufficient proportion of "ponzi elements" to the point that the whole scheme would collapse if the recruiting drive stalled or stopped, then it is up to the official lawmakers to take the appropriate action, and as in the case of Zeek, shut down. I personally did extensive due diligence on Zeek also, and my research did not see the company pass with flying colours. BB isn't clear out of the woods in my red flags department as many of their problems especially in terms of customer support and website accessibility issues, are often seen in relatively new companies that get caught on the back foot, risking becoming a victim of their own success.
Nothing is "no risk" and that includes banners broker, crossing the road, or hopping in your car to drive down town.
I've given it a punt with a sum of money about the same as what I'd blow on a typical afternoon out on the track. Would be a shame if the dreamstealers of RS are right, but i wouldn't lose sleep over the few hundred dollars I've put into the purchase of ad panels with BB, there's some level of risk with anything, but the last thing we need is a bunch of self-appointed 'net-nannies' bagging the living daylights out of anything they don't approve of, or do not fully understand.
We "pro-BB'ers" do not have to justify our position, defend the company from MLM scam, ponzi or other scam allegations from a bunch of people posting anonymously without disclosure of their real names, addresses and perhaps a phone number, and defend out decision to join this company as affiliates to the rest of the on-line.
In the real world, innocence is assumed until guilt is proven. By guilt, I'm not talking about screenshots of blogs and other stuff, and the endless, repetitive BS that's being spruiked by RS anti-BB'ers hell bent on bringing this company to its knees. This is called cyber terrorism, not providing an information resource to help a newbie make an informed decision whether BB (or any other company for that) is for them or not. Nothing's rock solid and 100% safe and secure, not even your job, folks. People ratting on their BS on RS crap on about BB affiliates having their account locked, or terminated, for making negative comments about BB. You may be interested to know that most MLM companies, including Tupperware, Avon, Amway, etc, do not take too kindly to negativity spread around the internet by affiliates, and their compliance departments again show no hesitation in reprimanding a rogue affiliate who is out there damaging the company's name.
Come to think of it, I dare you anti-BB RS'ers to foul-mouth your boss or the company you work for, USING YOUR REAL NAME, and see if you cop some flak if your boss found out. Many people have been sacked for inappropriate facebook comments against the company they work for....
Pro-BB'ers - take this to heart - there is good reason these people here trying to spread negative rumours and trivial observations they like to refer to as "facts" using anonymous screen names and without revealing their real names and addresses, and that's so that lawyers acting on behalf of the company whose good name they're trying to defame (in this case banners broker), can't serve them with cease-and-desist orders, just as the Taliban don't show their faces before they blow up some little village in Afghanistan or wherever they practise their acts of terrorism, cyber terrorism is exactly the same.
If they don't post their real name and a mailing address with their anti-BB comments, they have ZERO credibility. Nil, zip, nada. Absolutely nothing.
If I have a gripe about Vodafone, for example, regarding poor network speeds or other aspects such as call dropouts, poor customer service, and so forth, as I have many times in the past in places such as whirlpool, I post my REAL NAME, my mailing address, even my contact telephone number, so that the people at Vodafone, in this example, can identify my views as a legitimate complaint and grievance. I've actually had a senior Vodafone staff member (not an indian from a call centre in mumbai) call me to clarify what I was going on about in whirlpool. As my grievances and complaints were genuine, I was not asked to remove the posts, but how Vodafone can assist me. Got myself a free months mobile internet access, so I posted that, problem didn't seem to be resolved, but a brownie-point for giving me a free months' access as a gesture of goodwill.
Food for thought, folks! Unless you've got something positive to say regarding BB (or any company for that matter), back it up with some credibility, and include your real name and a mailing address. If you're not prepared to do that (scared of lawyers and the prospect of being summonsed to explain yourself to a magistrate or judge?), then you have NO CREDIBILITY no matter how strong your argument, comment, "proof" or "evidence".
When I first came here to RS, lurking in the background before registering the other day i thought, geez the dedication and tenacity of these people here sure are to be commended, I thought what are these people wasting their efforts here for, they should work for the police as detectives, or at interpol, then it struck me, it's the same pattern for each company and opportunity that's being slandered on this site, all anonymous comments, there's nothing for a lawyer to serve notices of defamation to as none of them actually 'man up' and back up their claims by revealing who they are beyond their screen handles.
Those of us who are currently in BB to whatever degree, as far as I know I'd guess the vast majority of us did at least some very basic due diligence, however deep or tiny that might have been, and we made the decision to part with some of our money to give this our "best shot". To have a bunch of self-proclaimed 'net-nannies' discouraging people from anything that involves taking the step towards some level of financial independence, or just a few extra $$ to help with bills and the mortgage, must make you feel real proud to keep another schlepp stuck in their 9-5 job - Just Over Broke is what the letters J.O.B. stand for. Let people make their own decisions without the bullshit and baseless garbage "proof", it's their money, no doubt some will get stung by some dodgey scheme, others discover that network marketing thing selling vitamins and juices isn't really anywhere as easy as they said at the meeting when I joined up, etc etc so it must be a scam? Hilarious and sad at the very same time.
Put up or shut up - got something negative to say about BB or anything else? Put your name and mailing address where your mouth is. Telephone numbers optional, some people can act on emotions harassing you in the middle of the night on the phone, playing the same game as you, in hiding behind an unlisted phone number, so if you have something worthwhile to say, real name and mailing address just in case the lawyers want to send you something in the post.
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