Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Della Cate

You know, when I read some of the adoring comments on the BB FB page, I despair. Can people not see what is before their eyes? Ken Roklin uses a good phrase about them, "dumber than a rock." I like that. Others call them sheep.

Well, I kinda think that is an insult to the sheep.

Sheep can be difficult animals, they are not too bright and they like to move in flocks, but they have advantages. They quickly get to recognise people. They are adept at breaking out of pens. They can learn - I heard a story about sheep somewhere working out how to cross cattle grinds to escape their field into someone's garden (tasty plants!) by rolling across the grid - and of course they give us wool, meat and milk (sheep milk cheeses such as Feta and Roquefort)

So compared with the BB true believers, who are still saying "BB rocks!" and other inane comments, I prefer sheep.

I Agree Della. If Chris Burned there houses down I think they would still chant BB Rocks!

Sooo Pathetic!

This Person Claims Their Whole BB Downline Was Just Shut Down:

Mark Davella:

"Banners Broker has shut my accounts and those in my downline that did nothing, absolutely nothing. I have my screenshots and upon them rebooting the system my attorneys will in fact be dragging Mark Ghobril to court to explain his voice mail message and actions "

To use the quote often attributed to Theodore Roosevelt:

"If you've got them by the *****, their hearts and minds will follow"

Originally Posted by NikSam

CERTIFICATE NO: 112360

I believe that Belmopan, Belize Certificate of Incorporation for BBI might be fake or Certificate number is faked.

I inspected at least 10 of such certificates, all numbers are 5 digits and in incremental order, in Jul 2013 (when BBI certificate was issued) they still were 5 digits, and started with 20...

take a look: http://belizers.info/wp-content/uplo...iceswaterm.jpg

and in Dec 2012 numbers started with 13... range (so zero at the end on BBI not artifact, entire number might be fake): http://www.sanctuarybelizehoa.com/wp...tificate-1.jpg

The certificate in the link above is a "Certificate of Registration". The BBI one is a "Certificate of Incorporation". Perhaps they are using a different numbering system for the various registrations of companies.

Originally Posted by NikSam

247 - Registration
250 - Incorporation

See my original post, i added there another "Incorporation"

This one

All of them of same kind, all 5 digits and incremental in the same serie

OK, I see the Incorporation one also has 5 digits.

Even More Banners Broker Accounts Reportedly Being Frozen on FB...



The Ponzi Nazis Mean Business!

Originally Posted by scamassassin007

The Ponzi Nazis Mean Business!

Talkgold mod Joseph is also mod of BB??......

New Irish Examiner Article


URL: Banners Broker head bids to reassure investors | Irish Examiner

Regardless of what the outcome of the liquidation process is, it still highlights the fact that BB is not running a legit "business" (using Chris's words). Which in turn I am sure will stop and make folks think more deeply about going forward in V3 - if that ever happens.

Watching the TBB forum - its unbelievable what the "sheep" are saying. They haven't been paid for a year and they still sing his praises - so if these people lose more money to Scammer Chris Smith, then its their own fault entirely.

I think also, that regardless of what other programs Ian Driscoll is involved in, if one can be bought to its knees then that is a good thing, and the sooner the better.

Ah such good news on my log in today. BBI have been dealt a serious blow, Smiffy is spluttering over the loss of his $6mill rainy day fund.
And the pompous nit picking posts have been stopped.
My mama told me, there would be days like this.

Then next question at hand is how and when and where to best push for criminal proceedings. This Guy has got to be locked up...

Am sitting here idly wondering if further information will be forthcoming about our favourite pimping suspects (Stepsys, Parker etc etc etc).

I do hope that they are all sitting there panicking about what's going to happen next.

I also hope that those who think they are going to be paid "what they are owed" will realise that it is likely to be the initial stake that may be returned, not the imaginary profits that they think they have been denied for the past 15 months or so.

Originally Posted by NikSam

at this point it can be just "lawyers got in possession of $150 shelf company which right away got liquidated and had no penny in it`s name, and even Chris did not care about that company"

I havent read any posts after this yet but assume the above is true.
How much unpaid shares do the sharholders own? They are personally liable for that.
There is ample evidence of Chris/Raj and others in various places claimed to be representing BBI. Now if they took money on behalf of BBI and but it in their own pockets they are personally liable to repay that money to the company. even if the company has no assets today one can claim that money was paid over to Chris/Raj and others which they themselves represented as money for BB. therefore one could argue they personally owe an amount of money to BB. Should a judgement be registered against them they will become exiled from the UK. Or they could come to the UK and be arrested until they pay up that sum of money to the liquidators. So at the very least it would stop Chris Raj etc. from personally operating any frauds in future in the UK.
Also, it adds to the international cases which may be developing in the future. If for example an Indian Canadian or US court is told "these people have judgements against them for this very same ponzi in five different countries" the court is going to consider that as very strong evidence.

The transcript of yesterday's webinar isn't available yet, is it?

Funny, that.

Also, will they hold their normal Friday webinar today? It will be amusing - if ironic - to hear them blethering on about BB V3 and BB Mobile and the blackout and the World Tour and the Tesla draw after recent events in the Isle of Man!

The trouble is, even if BB does go away, the people behind it and the people who have indulged in it and used it to feather their own nest (I'm not talking about the bog standard affiliate here, I'm talking about the big pushers and promoters) will reappear in some other guise to push some other venture. A lot of them already have moved on, to other things. They really are vermin, sewer rats, preying on the needy and vulnerable. They, as much as the Chris Smiths of this world, need to be stopped.

Originally Posted by NikSam

New Irish Examiner Article


URL: Banners Broker head bids to reassure investors | Irish Examiner

I was talking to co-nay sayers in the BB Ponzi Scam FB forum....

This was not brought up much yesterday...

Did anyone catch the soft handed THREAT that chris gave regarding taking action against BB?

The Irish Examiner did mention this.

Irish Examiner: " He said Banners Broker insisted on an internal dispute resolution system for affiliates and he warned investors it would not entertain court challenges ".

It might be worth listening to that again.

The Strong Arm Of The PONZI NAZIS Strike Again...

As posted earlier this week, MArk Ghobril made threat and has been recorded on a voicemail This gentleman's whole downline had been frozen.

Ah. Over on the BB Iceland FB page, we have this version of yesterday's webinar (sorry its a cut 'n' paste job)_

BB Webinar
27.2.14

Chris Smith
We are doing the call today because I am unavailable tomorrow. Ron Anderson will host a call tomorrow to go over some finer points.

Today I want to talk about something that has come to light and I want to make sure that people have the correct information.

BB started in 2010. At the time we needed to make several registrations, one of which, was in the IOM. We had several different registrations in different countries. Over the years, we have withdrawn several of the registrations, based on what we need to do globally. The UK was the largest affiliate base for BB and that's why we registered in the Isle Of Mann. We had challenges and the registration remained dormant for the past two years. We never opened an office there, and there wasn't any equipment. The only thing we had was the bank account. There was money held in trust for the sole purpose of operations. Last year, we decided, on our own accord, to wind it down and move the trust over to our Belize operation and we intended to use the funds that we would have transferred from IOM.

This doesn't need to be public or private information but we are talking about it now to shed some light on what has happened. It's a long process to wind a country down, and you need to have a liquidation take place. I repeat, the winding down of the I.O.M was our choice; it was not forced upon us.

Version 3 is still going ahead, the World Tour is still going ahead and the plans for the future are as before.

Sorry guys, I had a power cut at this point, had to wait for the power to come back on and had to reboot everything. The power came back up in time for me to hear that....

The World Tour is going to be in Trinidad & Tobago; probably the first week in May.

Notes taken by Helen Wright. Not official BB notes. Please check your back office for the recording. Remember, there will be a Friday Q & A tomorrow as usual with Ron.

So, nothing to worry about then!

The sad thing is, some people will believe all this.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Ah. Over on the BB Iceland FB page, we have this version of yesterday's webinar (sorry its a cut 'n' paste job)_

BB Webinar
27.2.14

Chris Smith
We are doing the call today because I am unavailable tomorrow. Ron Anderson will host a call tomorrow to go over some finer points.

Today I want to talk about something that has come to light and I want to make sure that people have the correct information.

BB started in 2010. At the time we needed to make several registrations, one of which, was in the IOM. We had several different registrations in different countries. Over the years, we have withdrawn several of the registrations, based on what we need to do globally. The UK was the largest affiliate base for BB and that's why we registered in the Isle Of Mann. We had challenges and the registration remained dormant for the past two years. We never opened an office there, and there wasn't any equipment. The only thing we had was the bank account. There was money held in trust for the sole purpose of operations. Last year, we decided, on our own accord, to wind it down and move the trust over to our Belize operation and we intended to use the funds that we would have transferred from IOM.

This doesn't need to be public or private information but we are talking about it now to shed some light on what has happened. It's a long process to wind a country down, and you need to have a liquidation take place. I repeat, the winding down of the I.O.M was our choice; it was not forced upon us.

Version 3 is still going ahead, the World Tour is still going ahead and the plans for the future are as before.

Sorry guys, I had a power cut at this point, had to wait for the power to come back on and had to reboot everything. The power came back up in time for me to hear that....

The World Tour is going to be in Trinidad & Tobago; probably the first week in May.

Notes taken by Helen Wright. Not official BB notes. Please check your back office for the recording. Remember, there will be a Friday Q & A tomorrow as usual with Ron.

So, nothing to worry about then!

The sad thing is, some people will believe all this.

Nice Post Della, but they really cleaned that up. .. lol The Ponzi Nazi Propaganda Machine At Work!

Rejoice everyone... It is a PONZI UTOPIA!

@CHRIS SMITH... WE HAVE COPIES OF EVERYTHING!

Another Ponzi Nazi Sympathizer

"Ann Hardman... The Female Version Of Mark Ghobril At Work..... "





*Credit to Shaz

UPDATE

Ann Hardman's FB Page Now Changed To A "CLOSED GROUP"



She fears the "Nay-Sayers" underground.

"STAY POSITIVE" ANN !

How ironic! A member of BANNERS BROKERS not wanting advertising links! WTF is that???

Originally Posted by laidback

How ironic! A member of BANNERS BROKERS not wanting advertising links! WTF is that???

Yes.. and...

........................

"ENJOY AND MEET HAPPY BBers"

was a nice touch.

It should read....

"Get Brainwashed while you give us all your money and enjoy getting screwed suckers"

Listen to Chris Smith's Soft Handed Back Slap Threat

*** About 13 Minutes In *** <------------------

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Am sitting here idly wondering if further information will be forthcoming about our favourite pimping suspects (Stepsys, Parker etc etc etc).

I do hope that they are all sitting there panicking about what's going to happen next.

I also hope that those who think they are going to be paid "what they are owed" will realise that it is likely to be the initial stake that may be returned, not the imaginary profits that they think they have been denied for the past 15 months or so.

seeing that they all did the same thing that 'smith' is accusing driscoll of............
we mocked the 'no pimping other **** while pimping my ****' declaration right here by posting the other **** they were pimping.

Originally Posted by scamassassin007

I was talking to co-nay sayers in the BB Ponzi Scam FB forum....

This was not brought up much yesterday...

Did anyone catch the soft handed THREAT that chris gave regarding taking action against BB?

The Irish Examiner did mention this.

lol. I really don't think he has a choice whether he wants to 'entertain court challenges' or not.

@ Chris SMith... Don't Be To Smug!

They Are Looking Into up to 8 Jurisdictions!



*Credit to James Clark