We are not sending out any advertising into the networks, so there is no income on the panels. We have stopped the monthly subscriptions to make it fair. This has also stopped the Traffic Packs. So there is really no activity for you to do in the system until the launch of V3.
We can only speculate, who did which part and who holds the keys, and who is the boss Chris or Raj, and what love story there is between those 2,
i was merely explaining how the standard offshore structures setup to get away with crime.
Here is where you wrong. Payza is not a UK company. Both are canadian companies.
in case of Payza, you should not really believe what they tell you :) , yes Patel brothers registered an entity in UK with a puppet nominated director, there are no normal offices in UK, but it just to keep things legal and separate in europe. Their license and registration in UK is only good to serve UK residents, and can not be used for foreign customers.
Payza is and always was based in Montreal, by Patel scammer-brothers.
Payza and STP are registered with canadian FinTRAC as MSB, that what makes them legal in canada,
(Research how US tracked LR,PS, Zeek bank accounts and froze them across the world)
He seemed not important in ICF ? really ?
Ok maybe to you. He as in old good times seems not that important now in BB to some - his mission is accomplished i guess.
Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt it. Payza was a Canadian company but all it's assets were purchased by a UK company making it a UK company not Canadian. Operations are in Canada but that doesn't make the corporation a Canadian company. Canada is a branch office just like the many others Payza has worldwide. Headquarters is in the UK. I agree I shouldn't believe everything others tell me, and that includes you :)
"MH Pillars Ltd, a UK-based advanced payments consultancy, acquired the strategic assets of AlertPay (Alert Services Inc., CANADA)[4] and launched the Payza.com platform in May 2012."
Zeek was a US corporation with US bank accounts, different than BBI being an offshore company.
Raj's importance to ICF was more in the training and presentations. Nothing in operations. He was/is not well liked and doesn't play well with anybody else in a company. He is a very poor business person as he has proven by all the failures of the many companies he has started. The only reason SP seemed successful for a while was because he charged Chris a fortune for his support services. All the businesses SP claimed they were doing were all failures as is his latest venture RevStar.
Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt it. Payza was a Canadian company but all it's assets were purchased by a UK company making it a UK company not Canadian. Operations are in Canada but that doesn't make the corporation a Canadian company. Canada is a branch office just like the many others Payza has worldwide. Headquarters is in the UK. I agree I shouldn't believe everything others tell me, and that includes you :)
"MH Pillars Ltd, a UK-based advanced payments consultancy, acquired the strategic assets of AlertPay (Alert Services Inc., CANADA)[4] and launched the Payza.com platform in May 2012."
Zeek was a US corporation with US bank accounts, different than BBI being an offshore company.
Raj's importance to ICF was more in the training and presentations. Nothing in operations. He was/is not well liked and doesn't play well with anybody else in a company. He is a very poor business person as he has proven by all the failures of the many companies he has started. The only reason SP seemed successful for a while was because he charged Chris a fortune for his support services. All the businesses SP claimed they were doing were all failures as is his latest venture RevStar.
Ken, MH Pillars was dissolved, and in 2012 was created to pretend ownership transfer and reanming to Payza specifically to avoid prosecution and bad press,
According to their Canadian and US MSB registrations they are a company based in QUEBEC, whatever they have in UK is UK problem (i documented what happened to them in UK)
and if you want to discuss Payza, do it in the appropriate thread (http://www.realscam.com/f43/us-secre...za-funds-2775/)
Nobody gives a s**t where the company is based offshore or not, or if there is even any company, the only importance is if it did scam locals. And if it is a fraud, all corporation protections no longer apply, persons involved being charged individually as well.
Zeek (and Paul Burks, Rex Ventures, other operators) had plenty accounts where they hid the money across the world, you can get a list from the receiver site,
Including money confiscated from STP and Payza.
but wouldn't real customers expect the ads they paid for to be out there regardless?
Am having so much problem with all these "system issues" if they were actually brokering ads, the affiliate stuff would be noise, not a major component. This is just an observation, no science behind it, but upgrades usually occur at the system or software vendor level and always seem to piss business people off. Like Microsoft coming out with a new Windows version every 2 years and stop supporting the old versions that are finally starting to work. How many folks were saying, you know it is nice that most of the bugs have been worked out of 98, I can do most of what I want online, please oh please give me back the blue screen of death and 1000s of new hacking exploits?
Other than some systems that were truly not Y2K compatible, I really taxing my brain of a situation where a company making money did this just for the lolz.
"It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scam-...98399986981403
Mark Ghobril has taken Payments directly from me that he used to open accounts in an investment scheme. I am currently owed about $100,000 USD. I have not been paid in over a year. The contract between Mark Ghobril and Myself and the investment firm states that I will be paid within 90 days of the request. DO NOT INVEST WITH THIS MAN. I have the checks to prove my payments directly to Mark Ghobril. I am seeking a US attorney for a class action suit.
Before Doing Business with this man Mark Ghobril Call Mark Davella to see what he knows 516-983-6820
Mark Ghobril has taken Payments directly from me that he used to open accounts in an investment scheme. I am currently owed about $100,000 USD. I have not been paid in over a year. The contract between Mark Ghobril and Myself and the investment firm states that I will be paid within 90 days of the request. DO NOT INVEST WITH THIS MAN. I have the checks to prove my payments directly to Mark Ghobril. I am seeking a US attorney for a class action suit.
Before Doing Business with this man Mark Ghobril Call Mark Davella to see what he knows 516-983-6820
Welcome to RS and all the best with your legal action. Please keep us informed of its progress.
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I have a new voice mail from "Little Hitler" Mark Ghobril himself. He has threatened to shut off my BB accounts thus admitting that he in fact does and can control BB. I pray he actually follows through on the Voice Message that I will load as soon as it finishes translating. See Little Hitler aka Mark Ghobril lives at 155 Easton St., Ronkonkoma, NY 11779. The double wide type trailer home he lives in is in foreclosure....Lis Pendens Info:
Lis Pendens Amount: $339,267 Lis Pendens Plaintiff: Bac Home Loans Servicing Lp Lis Pendens Book/Page:
Lis Pendens Date: 4/6/2010 Lis Pendens Index#: 10 11782 (That means that he has not paid his mortgage since 2010) BTW The home backs up against the Long Island Expressway. You can find it easily on Google Earth just up the road from the school. I say this in the event that anyone may like to travel to ask Mark Ghobril in person about his relation to BB since he does in fact have the capacity to open and close accounts, as well as receive checks to his personal account. I have copies that I am getting back from the banks this coming week. Any attorneys out there want to help with bringing litigation directly against this POS locally in New York Supreme court please contact me at 516-983-6820.
Aw shucks! Seems I got honorable mention at the talking BB thread but can't read it because I am not registered. Anyone want to post what they said here?
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Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
I have a new voice mail from "Little Hitler" Mark Ghobril himself. He has threatened to shut off my BB accounts thus admitting that he in fact does and can control BB. I pray he actually follows through on the Voice Message that I will load as soon as it finishes translating. See Little Hitler aka Mark Ghobril lives at 155 Easton St., Ronkonkoma, NY 11779. The double wide type trailer home he lives in is in foreclosure....Lis Pendens Info:
Lis Pendens Amount: $339,267 Lis Pendens Plaintiff: Bac Home Loans Servicing Lp Lis Pendens Book/Page:
Lis Pendens Date: 4/6/2010 Lis Pendens Index#: 10 11782 (That means that he has not paid his mortgage since 2010) BTW The home backs up against the Long Island Expressway. You can find it easily on Google Earth just up the road from the school. I say this in the event that anyone may like to travel to ask Mark Ghobril in person about his relation to BB since he does in fact have the capacity to open and close accounts, as well as receive checks to his personal account. I have copies that I am getting back from the banks this coming week. Any attorneys out there want to help with bringing litigation directly against this POS locally in New York Supreme court please contact me at 516-983-6820.
Unfortunately your experience with Mark Ghobril in not at all unusual in the dying days of a "next-big-thing" HYIP ponzi.
As soon as the top level insider pimps see the writing on the wall that total collapse is inevitable, they do as Mark Ghobril is doing and re direct money into their own accounts while pretending to purchase "panels" or "adpacks" or whatever the ponzis' units are called, for the unsuspecting newbies.
It happens every time one of the larger HYIP ponzi frauds comes around.
Ghobril and the others are relying on the fact victims are unaware they have been fooled into believing Banners Broker has the money, are loathe to go to the authorities for fear of being prosecuted themselves, are ashamed and embarrassed when they have come to realize they have been doubly scammed or are discouraged by the time and costs involved in pursuing the pimp personally.
One of the main reasons REALSCAM.com spends time exposing the "Mark Ghobrils" of the HYIP ponzi world is the belief that in doing so, it will only be a matter of time until one of the victims or groups of victims is sufficiently incensed they WILL take the time and trouble to follow through and not allow the pimp to simply walk away untouched.
I may be wrong, but I get a sense the day is not not too far away when we will see an increasing number of HYIP ponzi pimps being "nailed to the wall" and forced to compensate their victims as well as explain their involvement in a multi million dollar fraud of the size of Banners Broker.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Just seen those promises by Mr Ghobril posted by Scamassasin007 - thank you, S007, for the timely reminder!
However, what is the betting that Mr G does not make good his promises? There will be excuses such as:-
- BB didn't fold because it was not a viable business - it was ruined by naysayers who had their own agenda;
- The undertaking wasn't meant to be taken literally;
- BB hasn't really gone - sure, it has gone down, but it hasn't gone - the IT genius Chris Smith is already working on BBv4 which will be bigger and better than ever;
- Mr G's promise was to one specific person, not to everyone in BB.....
Etc, etc.
Note: the suggestions above are copyright to Della Cate Productions and may not be used by any BB big-wig looking for a getout clause....!!!
After all the comments about the "white" Chris Smith", why would they use the stock photo again instead of the real Chris in this new ad? Not too bright.
After all the comments about the "white" Chris Smith", why would they use the stock photo again instead of the real Chris in this new ad? Not too bright.
Yes Ken, and if you notice in the video.. BB used to be the "NEW GOOGLE" ...
An Important Message From The BB Ponzi Scam FB Page:
We've received a very helpful message regarding bank chargebacks and the coming Liquidation.
If a company is liquidated, the banks will almost CERTAINLY look favourably on your chargeback application.
It will confirm to them that BB is indeed a scam.
PLEASE CONTACT PAUL COOPER URGENTLY.
Paul Appleton @ David Rubin and Partners.
Email paul.cooper@drpartners.com.
Time is running out!
You have NOTHING to lose by registering.
Our old friend Ljubomir Ruskaji·
He is still with BB and pimping out new videos.
The kids has gained a little weight.
I think Chris must be feeding him from his plate.
Allow me to Translate for Ljubomir:
Banners Broker Is A PONZI SCAM!
A Recent Post By Banners Broker: Everyone Need To Rea View This Video:
This Proves BB has LIED!
Many of the BB Leaders told their victims anything to get them to join.
Including words like "INVESTING", PENSION, and PASSIVE!
I think that Rockin' Ronnie is being "economical with the truth" (as a UK politician once commented) when he says:-
- affiliates have received the products they paid for;
-describing traffic packs as "unintentional consequences";
- saying that BB has never been promoted by the company as a passive investment .
Let's take them one at a time....
- What "product" DID BB push eh? Advertising on the net that no-one ever saw because it was on the "blind network"? P*ss poor websites with names like "Career Donkey"?
- Unintentional consequences my ar*e! When I first heard of BB late in 2012 (gosh, has it been so long?) traffic packs were an integral part of this, er, venture. Traffic packs were essential to qualifying/rolling up/whatever it was the pretty coloured panels!
- BB not a passive investment - oh, come off it! There's people out there who remember the days when BB was a straightline cycler doubler - and have evidence that this was how it was promoted. And it was certainly sold to people I personally know; as "an online money making venture", one which you didn't have to do anything with because you bought your "traffic packs" and somehow the magic happened and you made money without having to do very much yourself.
It really makes me cross when things like this are said, and attempts are made to rewrite history.
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