Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

@ Ken...

I have been told by Canadians that their investigative body does not have the resources of the United States. Also, Many have only spoken of the OSC which is primarily concerned with Investments And Securities. The Canadian Fraud unit has been looking at this I was told. They also need more complaints from the other provinces, and not just Ontario. Money has exchanged hands out of Canada and transactions were made from Canada. Chris Smith still has a condo there so I was told. Canada could be the key to getting justice.

In saying that, You are partially correct.
they have had a Corporation Registry in the Isle Of Man with Different Names Changes For Some Time Now And Currently Are Registered There.

BB Website Today:


From what I can tell. Belize is only the current office location.
I think BB originally had their corporate structure in Belize a t the beginning.
Maybe one of the old timers in BB could clarify this.

I am sure many of us remember the Swiss Bank Account that used to be in the back office used to wire money as with the many other changes.
Yes, this is all planned to hide jurisdiction offshore.

When it comes to currency and taxes. The United Stated and other countries can cross borders.
Time will tell. But it may take just that.. Time.

I think only a Forensic Accounting Team could piece all of this together.
BB has never been transparent.

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

The comment about Canadian authorities being slow or reluctant to act against internet fraud is based on an article many years ago and simply is not true today.

Gee, and here was I thinking it was a comment based on my own experiences and observations over many years.

Chris Smith is in Canada.

The fact Banners Broker / Stellar Point and or Mickey Mouse are not registered in Canada is incidental to that fact.

It could even be said that if the Canadian authorities did act today, they will have missed the boat.

Unlike Zeek Rewards, which had at least SOME money and assets when it was shut down, Banners Broker is already a dead ponzi

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Gee, and here was I thinking it was a comment based on my own experiences and observations over many years.

Chris Smith is in Canada.

The fact Banners Broker / Stellar Point and or Mickey Mouse are not registered in Canada is incidental to that fact.

It could even be said that if the Canadian authorities did act today, they will have missed the boat.

Unlike Zeek Rewards, which had at least SOME money and assets when it was shut down, Banners Broker is already a dead ponzi

Very Good Point LittleRoundMan ....
Follow The Money as they say...
Most Countries are after money Laundering And Taxes. Ask Al Capone.

I think our only hope is that they go after the Big Leaders for Tax Evasion.

Who Knows...

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

Banners Broker International is not based in Canada and never was. It was based out of Isle of Man and is now based in Belize. The reason for picking those 2 places was to avoid compliance problems in countries such as Canada or the US. Raj was involved in a Ponzi before and knew that he had to avoid the authorities in Canada with BBI and that is why it was incorporated offshore. Canada has no more jurisdiction in Belize than any other country like the US or UK have. The comment about Canadian authorities being slow or reluctant to act against internet fraud is based on an article many years ago and simply is not true today.

Ken, again you with your nonsense. Canadian authorities are to blame because they do nothing against criminals (each located and operating out of Canada). It means absolutely nothing on greater level of things if those criminals posses any corp registrations anythere else (they can have company in hell for all we know). If you seriously believe what scammers told you and that there is some company in Belize or Isle of man with employess, you need a reality check.
If each company registered in Belize had at least one employee it will be heaviest populated place on earth :)

Again you have no legal agreement to any shitty company which allegedly registered at some shithole as Belize. and no any civilized authority would recognize such company's jurisdiction. You have only people who told you lies and told you where to send monies.


PS: All those company registrations can only be used as some additional evidence linking individuals to this scam. Those company records (perhaps which have a mailbox size of phonebook office) on banana islands cannot be charged at all.
Neither Chris or Raj has any corporate level protection of the company or can declare bankruptcy or be not personally legaly responsible with their online registered companies in offshores.

What all those criminals incorporating/hiding in offshores seems do not know a one common trick.
That in those offshores (also being most corrupted places in the world) all secrecy disappears when you open your wallet :)

Ok, you pay $100 to open a company in Isle of Man, i will pay $200 to your incorporation service to tell me who the hell you are, they will even give me scan of your passport and credit card you paid with for free :)

Originally Posted by NikSam

What all those criminals incorporating/hiding in offshores seems do not know a one common trick.
That in those offshores (also being most corrupted places in the world) all secrecy disappears when you open your wallet :)

Ok, you pay $100 to open a company in Isle of Man, i will pay $200 to your incorporation service to tell me who the hell you are, they will even give me scan of your passport and credit card you paid for free :)

Agreed...
This is all out of the Ponzi 101 Playbook.

Address seem familiar ???



Same dog, different leg action.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Address seem familiar ???



Same dog, different leg action.

S...O....B......

The BB Members have all been played!

Originally Posted by scamassassin007

S...O....B......

The BB Members have all been played!

And this surprises you somehow ??

well, whadayaknow

URL: https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/Corp...corpId=8640831

See that purported email with the statement of "$40,000,000 uncollected admin fees"

That is a load of rubbish.

They take admin fees from the e-wallet - it's not collected from anywhere else. The e-wallet gets the "cash" from the panels (ha!) that qualify.

We know there are no ads, so no money is generated... so it's $40M of nothing....

The affiliates don't owe anything, because they've had nothing in the first place. (I am talking about those who are NOT high up the food chain)

Complete and utter rubbish...

The Guardian Uno Made a very good point over at MMG:
[quote name='theguardianuno' date='Feb 4 2014, 09:39 AM' post='1108683824']

I've seen a few comments in various places about BBI, Chris Smith and Belize.

BBI is registered in IOM, it has directors which are provided by the formation company there, all directors are located within IOM. BBI cannot have directors in Belize and does not. As the directors and company are in IOM, they cannot have the Belize location tied to it under IOM regulations. They can have a parent company but not BBI itself, Chris is of course trying to use BBI itself in Belize which is neither legal and does not hold water.

Monetize Group Incorporated which is one of the companies behind Banners Broker International, is registered in Belize and has a director there. I think this is how they have an office but are using it for BBI rather than MGI which should be it's purpose. Chris Smith is the sole director of MGI.

Chris is using the Belize address on legal documents for BBI business, illegally. BBI did not move to Belize, they have always been in IOM and are still there. So Iain Sherriff and Co making excuses why they moved to Belize is quite amusing. As it is a prime example of of how he and others will run with information given by Chris, without doing his own research and using correct information and facts.

This is just a snippet, more on this topic later.

Originally Posted by NikSam

well, whadayaknow

URL: https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/Corp...corpId=8640831

LOL!
Our Team > Company > RevStar Global

He said he didnt work for them anymore but her is David scammer
Our Team > Company > RevStar Global

Doesn't mention BB

Does tell you how it works:
How You Earn > Business > RevStar Global

Basically later joining "Affiliates" pay off the people who got in earlier. Hmmm. I think I heard about that sort of thing before somewhere?

Originally Posted by Beacon

LOL!
Our Team > Company > RevStar Global

He said he didnt work for them anymore but her is David scammer
Our Team > Company > RevStar Global

Doesn't mention BB

Does tell you how it works:
How You Earn > Business > RevStar Global

Basically later joining "Affiliates" pay off the people who got in earlier. Hmmm. I think I heard about that sort of thing before somewhere?

Revstarglobal.com is 7 months old and quite popular in Canada. The site doesn't have big presence on the social networks. With around 10 tweets, it is most successful on twitter, while doing equally well on other social networking sites, for example it has 8 facebook likes, and 0 google plus ones The website was registered by and has its servers in Netherlands .
Revstarglobal.com Analysis - DomainTuno
Registrant Name: Paul Redmayne
Registrant Organization: RevStar Global
Registrant Street: 31 Sunvale Place
Registrant Street: 22
Registrant City: Stoney Creek
Registrant State/Province: Ontario
Registrant Postal Code: L8E 4Z6
Registrant Country: Canada
Tech Phone: (905) 330-0808
Tech Fax:
Tech Email: predmayne2@cogeco.ca
Name Server: NS1.STELLARPOINTINC.COM
Name Server: NS2.STELLARPOINTINC.COM

He uis even running out of the SP nameserver ! LOL

Originally Posted by Beacon

Revstarglobal.com is 7 months old and quite popular in Canada. The site doesn't have big presence on the social networks. With around 10 tweets, it is most successful on twitter, while doing equally well on other social networking sites, for example it has 8 facebook likes, and 0 google plus ones The website was registered by and has its servers in Netherlands .
Revstarglobal.com Analysis - DomainTuno
Registrant Name: Paul Redmayne
Registrant Organization: RevStar Global
Registrant Street: 31 Sunvale Place
Registrant Street: 22
Registrant City: Stoney Creek
Registrant State/Province: Ontario
Registrant Postal Code: L8E 4Z6
Registrant Country: Canada
Tech Phone: (905) 330-0808
Tech Fax:
Tech Email: predmayne2@cogeco.ca
Name Server: NS1.STELLARPOINTINC.COM
Name Server: NS2.STELLARPOINTINC.COM

He uis even running out of the SP nameserver ! LOL

How could anyone join this? I can't believe they continue to get away with this!
It is almost as if the Scam (BB) gave birth to evil illegitimate children that keep spawning new scams.
This should be a HORROR movie!

Whether Banners Broker is registered in Belize, Isle of Man, Carlow Court or the moon, its makes no difference except on paper.
The fact is CHRIS lives here and Banners Broker is run from here:
167, Church Street, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M4Y 2C8
Condos 1901,1902, 1905,1906

Everything else is a distraction....

Ass Chaps Alan is up with a new video. I can't believe he can do these with a straight face, people have not been paid money they were OWED in over a year, and it is their fault.



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Banners Brokers is a ponzi

Not only in denial but downright defiantly criminal and deserving of what will turn out to be his lifelong "reputation"

Busy little joint that 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7, ain't it ??

5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1n 9t7

This information is current as of July 22, 2013.

There are 10 companies that have an address matching 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1n 9t7.

Company Name: 8468346 Canada Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 03/21/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8468346 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: 8472700 Canada Corporation Status: Active Filing Date: 03/27/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8472700 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Reemas Kitchen Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 03/21/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8468419 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Buzinga.ca Ltd. Status: Active Filing Date: 05/22/2013 Entity Type: Limited Partnership File Number: 8527644 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Stellar Point Productions Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 07/29/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8593094 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Stellar Point Web Hosting Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 07/29/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8593124 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: 8649219 Canada Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 10/01/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8649219 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Jetsetter Dating Ltd. Status: Active Filing Date: 09/30/2013 Entity Type: Limited Partnership File Number: 8649146 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Revstar Hosting Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 09/20/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8640831 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: The Dixit Consortium Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 09/24/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8643989 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA

As always with Raj, "it is not me, it is my client"

JETSTETTER.jpg

URL: JetSetter Dating > Clients > RevStar Global



The dating site itself is rebranded White Lable Dating deal, they just let them use their service under "put your name here" name.



PS: Hmm, so Raj StealAPoint $1 hosting is now http://www.revstarhosting.com/ :) He thinks SP name is dirty now, well Raj just watch it , RevStar will be as dirty as you soon. And what is your obsessions with Points / Stars ?


PPS: Intresting, http://www.revstarglobal.com/clients/jiggy , So Penny auctions now ?, Zeek fame just does not let scammers sleep at night

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Busy little joint that 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7, ain't it ??

5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1n 9t7

This information is current as of July 22, 2013.

There are 10 companies that have an address matching 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1n 9t7.

Company Name: 8468346 Canada Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 03/21/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8468346 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: 8472700 Canada Corporation Status: Active Filing Date: 03/27/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8472700 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Reemas Kitchen Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 03/21/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8468419 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Buzinga.ca Ltd. Status: Active Filing Date: 05/22/2013 Entity Type: Limited Partnership File Number: 8527644 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Stellar Point Productions Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 07/29/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8593094 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Stellar Point Web Hosting Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 07/29/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8593124 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: 8649219 Canada Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 10/01/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8649219 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Jetsetter Dating Ltd. Status: Active Filing Date: 09/30/2013 Entity Type: Limited Partnership File Number: 8649146 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: Revstar Hosting Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 09/20/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8640831 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA Company Name: The Dixit Consortium Inc. Status: Active Filing Date: 09/24/2013 Entity Type: Corporation File Number: 8643989 Filing State: Canada (CANADA) Registered Agent: None Listed Principal Address: 5 Carlow Court Whitby, ON L1N 9T7 CA

It would seem Dixit got in cahoots with Hooker last September when they were aware of the imminent collapse of BB. By "collapse" i mean that to me BB is effectively dead since they can't get new victims. The "BB mobile" was an attempt to set up another ponzi under the same name and maybe bilk the remaining faithful for more money but that is a dry well compared to the thousands and ten thousands players they were getting in 2012 and early 2013.
Anyway, a number of companies were set up which would satisfy their next scam but Dixit maybe kept a few back for himeslf so he could maybe con Hooker and divert cash into the companies only Raj controlled. On the other hand I don't think very much money actually goes into these companies which don't employ people; don't have any assets and don't file company returns and eventually become struck off.

This is where the forensic accounting comes in. It may be the Glenroy Browne companies actually have some assets ( e.g. gym equipment; a building or a long term lease on one )and are in fact a normal real business actually providing real products and services (all be it a poor one doing it inefficiently for a high cost to the customer) in an attempt to launder the ill gotten gains of the ponzis. It maybe one of the Dixit companies actually is the one holding the cash. It may be one of these companies actually holds the deeds of the Carlow Court Building but I think when you look you will see that none of them actually employ anyone or have any accounts and the building is actually in Dixit's name ( or his mothers) . The sad thing is if they used their efforts to actually do some ordinary business they probably would make money but they would have to provide a product or a service for that and Dixit it seems doesn't want to actually work and prefers to talk about the "virtual" work as if he is doing actual work when all he is doing is taking money from people keeping most of it for himself and giving a tiny amount ( somewhere between 1 and 5 %) to others and pretending this is actually working.

Given the Feb first Global Launch maybe the people over at
https://www.facebook.com/revstarglobal?
Who are liking the FB page
should be told it is a scam?

The RSG Webinar
Rev Star Global Introduction January 6th 2014 - YouTube
Kieran Fitzgerald
This weeks webinar schedule.
Intro to Revstarglobal Movement
Tuesday 7th, wednesday 8th and Thursday 9th.
1 pm EST, 6PM UK, 8PM CY, 11PM IST

https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/reg...70993512072193

I note a number of pimps not mentioned here before
e.g. carol Reed
https://www.facebook.com/carol.reed.3760?

Who you can see was pushing BB in the US last year Oct 15/July 21/May 12
as well as Talkfusion
So I don't know whether telling her about it would do anything.

I must laugh she has a post asking people to join her cause to force facebook to block child porn
https://www.causes.com/causes/580526...d-pornography?

Nov 11 2012

Anyone who abuses children should be tortured and killed, that's all they are good for. They are the scum of the earth.

Sadly, six months before that she was PIMPING BB to Kenyans. I wonder what she thinks of that now that the kids in Kenya have lost out because she bilked their parents out of money. Isn't that child abuse?

Ironically like fraud child porn is illegal in her jurisdiction
Strange how she gets all moral on on thing and "pimps" the other isn't it?

I would posit it is kinda obvious who owns/manages the RSG FB page and judging by the continual likes by the same four or five people, who is on her "team".

LOL the post on her own facebook page nov 21 2013
https://www.facebook.com/carol.reed.3760?
emphasis added by me

THIS is worth taking a serious look at BEFORE year-end:

REV STAR GLOBAL is making such an impact on a world that's totally fed up with false promises, join a real Revenue Sharing business before the end of the year to maximise your benefits. Be a Founder for $500. Founder's membership very limited. Be a CAP member, join the customer acquisition programme for a small fee and be an AFFILIATE from $20 - $500 per month

She is an Early BB Pimp since June 16 2012 when she was pushing it in Kenya

Here is an interesting post
Banners Broker By Al Baker! Debunking The Scam | MikeandChrisSmith.com

Which if they delete it can be found here:
Banners Broker By Al Baker! Debunking The Scam | MikeandChrisSmith.com

It is attributed to Al Baker

as is
http://razaaziz.com/wp-content/uploa...ual-UNITED.pdf
A training manual
Written in August 2012 and no doubt given to the Independent consultants who visited the Canadian HQ a few months later

In it -About Banners Broker–The Company Page 72

They have a small staff of
fewer than20 people, who comprise the
programmers, support and administrative staff of the company
They are small and efficient, which contributes to their ability to create
such a strong vehicle for Banners Broker affiliates.
As of July 2012, they had over 100,000 members and had paid out over
$200 Million in commissions. They are active in 108 countries and
continue to expand.

Note above in the "debunking the scam" he refers to

Even almighty Google started in a garage.

Which isnt really true. When they really began as a company they had offices.

But he continues

(Banners Broker just bought a new building and staffed it with 100 new personnel

No I accept BB bought 5 Carlow Court as a corporate HQ but if they really started then as a business in August 2012 weith 20 people aand by Feb 2013 had over a hundred how is it that we have never heard of more than two of these people in Carlow Court i.e Terry Stern and possibly David Hooker ( who we were told didn't work for Banners Broker)? Where are the other 99 people? Did they disappear into the non existant "blind network"?

Even when the IC's went there they only saw about four of five staff.

Ponzi scheme |ˈpänzē| noun a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.
ORIGIN named after Charles Ponzi (died 1949), who carried out such a fraud (1919–20).

and later says

A Banners Broker affiliate buys a product – ad inventory – blank advertising space on a website. He also buys traffic from a traffic broker and he also buys advertising impressions for his own use in advertising on the same blind network.

But no evidence is ever offered to show that any actual advertising exists or any website carrying it i.e. no evidence to show it is nothing more than "a nonexistent enterprise ...fostered by the payment of later investors"
I mean what does

I know that of the almost 3,000 of my downline, very few make money,

other than the few that do make money are being paid by those who join later?