Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Oh no......according to Bb Twitter.....BB TV IS BACK!

Link here: BB TV

Looks like it is full of adoring testimonials. I'm not sure I want to look much further, really, but if anyone has a strong stomach, fill yer boots!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Here's Rockin' Ronnie again.....And remember, folks, The Future is Now!

So how can I describe to you all of the reasons why BBv3 will be superior to version 2? I can’t because I don’t fully understand it myself but here is how it was described to me:

We have more servers, each dedicated to specific tasks that will make the entire system run more quickly. They have used a new method of interacting with those servers that is the same technology that Twitter and Facebook use to make their systems run. There is a new framework to support everything that is leaner (which makes it faster), it has a more intuitive and rapid caching system, it is lightweight and the there is nothing in the system that doesn’t need to be there.

From the user’s side, the design was made more friendly. The designers listened to feedback from you, the affiliates, and made some adaptations to where things were, how it was arranged and how to use the interface.

Many people will have trouble understanding all of the technical aspects of what has been done. The important part, the thing that you should all take away from this, is that BBv3 is built on the latest technology, both in equipment and programming, that the design is simpler and easier to use and based on things that affiliates have asked for.

We are delighted with the end result and know that it will be a pleasant improvement for everyone that uses it.

It is coming soon now…

Even Ronnie, the Spinmeister-in-Chief, cannot explain it, so what hope does the average affiliate have?

My money is on V3 being designed completely as a non passive income earner giving nothing for nothing and paying pennies for high work requirements. It's going to be heralded as the best thing since sliced bread by BB and will in one foul swoop, alienate a huge number of the great unwashed, sorry I mean affiliates, who will be unable to figure out it's workings. The pseudo mover's and shakers ( life's little serial scammers) will be jumping up and down with pretendy enthusiasm with virtual high fives flying all over the net in one last attempt to convince the naive newbies that they shouldn't jump ship just yet. There will be so much deliberate confusion caused that many won't see the elephant in the room, Chris Smith tip toeing, exiting stage left, with their money under his arm.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Oh no......according to Bb Twitter.....BB TV IS BACK!

Link here: BB TV

Looks like it is full of adoring testimonials. I'm not sure I want to look much further, really, but if anyone has a strong stomach, fill yer boots!

OMG Della, thought wow, they have Hertz and vistaprint banners on the page?? Just for the hell of it, thought I'd click on the 'book now' and order now prompts and neither work!? When you click on the adchoices it comes up as this link

https://www.quantcast.com/adchoices

anyone know anything about this?? Could they be copying ads and reusing banners unoffically to make them look kosher?

Originally Posted by Brenda

OMG Della, thought wow, they have Hertz and vistaprint banners on the page?? Just for the hell of it, thought I'd click on the 'book now' and order now prompts and neither work!? When you click on the adchoices it comes up as this link

https://www.quantcast.com/adchoices

anyone know anything about this?? Could they be copying ads and reusing banners unoffically to make them look kosher?

They also have ads at the bottom of there site that has audio on it. If you want to stop the audio, you have to click on the link!

Originally Posted by littleroundman

It's not until you read something like this you realize just how out of touch with reality some of the HYIP ponzi players really are.



Even now, Mr "willwork4food" STILL will not admit Banners Broker is and always was an illusion.

There are no "banners"

There never was a "spreadsheet"

All that ever existed was a computer program that simulated a real business and a whole pile of pimps and shills perpetuating the myth.

I'm inclined to think that's pretty much the long and short of it.
There was a time when BB was dealing with Clicksor, there was an advertising network of some sort back then aside from those poorly-designed choice network sites (careerdonkey, etc) - I very much doubt there would have ever been enough revenue from any of their external networks to support their business model, so the whole thing was dependent on new affiliates pumping more money into it, certainly clear evidence of a very strong ponzi element with BB, when affiliate numbers started dwindling, payout problems started to increase, now it's been 6 months since any significant numbers of people have been paid, just a few select hard-core believers, err scammers

I found this posting on FBBB from one of Simon Stepsys happy downline:

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Can you imagine the hilarity in the courtroom if a HYIP ponzi pimp like Stepsys tried to follow through with his threat and sue his victim ??

Unfortunately this sort of thing happens at the end of every "next big thing" HYIP ponzi fraud

Professional fraudsters like Stepsys play on the natural fear of the legal system of his victims and intimidate them into remaining silent.

Originally Posted by Brenda

My money is on V3 being designed completely as a non passive income earner giving nothing for nothing and paying pennies for high work requirements. It's going to be heralded as the best thing since sliced bread by BB and will in one foul swoop, alienate a huge number of the great unwashed, sorry I mean affiliates, who will be unable to figure out it's workings. The pseudo mover's and shakers ( life's little serial scammers) will be jumping up and down with pretendy enthusiasm with virtual high fives flying all over the net in one last attempt to convince the naive newbies that they shouldn't jump ship just yet. There will be so much deliberate confusion caused that many won't see the elephant in the room, Chris Smith tip toeing, exiting stage left, with their money under his arm.

I see V3 as new weapon against payments to the affiliates and conditions one must fulfil to withdraw the money - I am convinced this last will be the most cruel part of all the game.In the same time V3 will be a big play field with lot do this do that crap for nothing tasks where poor affiliates are supposed to spent time and money while being ecstatic how serious business they are involved with...less they understand more enthusiastic they become....more they have to do ,less they will get - there is very old Greek legend about Sisyphus that explains "the hard" work in any scam out there - A king in ancient Greece who offended Zeus and whose punishment was to roll a huge boulder to the top of a steep hill; each time the boulder neared the top it rolled back down and Sisyphus was forced to start again.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

I found this posting on FBBB from one of Simon Stepsys happy downline:

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I hope that this person is considering taking Stepsys to the small claims court (upper limit for claims is £10000 - see Citizens Advice - Small claims)

I wish her well in doing so. It's about time someone wiped that smug grin off his face!!

Long time watchers of the HYIP ponzi scene will be feeling a sense of deja vu when reading how insiders like Stepsys have started ripping off their downlines.

It happens every time a "next big thing" HYIP ponzi fraud nears the end of its' life.

In the know insiders make up for the fact payments have stopped by dealing directly with new recruits and doing as Stepsys has done, taking cash for "banners" or "positions" or "ad packs" or "PicPay" or what ever non existent illusion the scam-du-jour is using.

The problems victims face now are, there's unlikely to be any receipts, there are no "banners," the insiders claim they too have been victimized, many victims are either too embarrassed or cannot afford to institute civil action and /or believe the nonsense threats made by the likes of Stepsys and his cronies.

Something struck me about the India situation.
I believe Jimmie/Jamie is the Guy who posted about everything being all okay in India after the offices were closed. He also posted that Herida was noty working for BB anymore but sill was a director aof BB India and held 50% of the shares. He also posted that Herida wanted 50k and BB refused and then he wanted 10k and BB still refused him. Not it appears that BB india have about 2k in paid up shares.
What strikes me is the following.
The actual paid up capital value of the BB India Limited is about $2000 even though there may be hundreds of thousands in their bank account.
Herida wants 10k for his half 1k worth of paid up shares.
BB don't even believe their "huge in India" company is worth paying 10k for!

Even when ther is 2k in paid uop shares already and all the BB india money is in the bank account owned by that company!

Another thing strikes me maybe the 50 K Jamie/Jimmie De Souza Bento wanted from Ana Bento was this 50k Edney hereda thought he would get for the company?

Originally Posted by AshKen1

I hope that this person is considering taking Stepsys to the small claims court (upper limit for claims is £10000 - see Citizens Advice - Small claims)

I wish her well in doing so. It's about time someone wiped that smug grin off his face!!

Unfortunately, I do not think this guy has many possibilities to get money back from Stepsys as probably the money was given without any written conditions and promisses - what was eventually said and spoken will have low impact on the court as this is probably 1 against 1 statement....ofcourse it's just my opinion

Originally Posted by AshKen1

I hope that this person is considering taking Stepsys to the small claims court (upper limit for claims is £10000 - see Citizens Advice - Small claims)

I wish her well in doing so. It's about time someone wiped that smug grin off his face!!

I'd sooner someone surgically remove those index fingers off his pointy hands.

Tra-la! It's the Rockin' Ronnie and Chris Smiff Show!

Thanks to Rooneyfenomeno over on MMG. Anyway, please note that there have been problems with STP because.......STP usernames are now case sensitive. In other words, it wasn't the brackets this week - it was the capital letters! Bwahahaha!

Here we go then....Drum roll please........

Ron Anderson:

Chris will be on in a moment. I want to talk to you about the Facebook and Twitter. We have broken 25,000 LIKES on the Facebook page! Next goal is 40,000. We are at 9,483 and want to push that over 10,000.

This is a great way to communicate with us and with each other.

www.facebook.com/bannersbroker

Version 3 is moving along nicely. Programmers are ironing out the kinks. We hope to have it soon and we will let you know as soon as we know.

Until Chris gets here, I will try to answer quetsions.

Thank you to everyone for all the wonderful things you are saying. We want everything to work well for you, and thank you for all the great feedback.

If you still want to be a beta tester, please submit your video testamonials and I will choose from that list of video testamonials.

Chris Smith speaking:

If you can show them the new BBTV please. We have revived this concept

www.theBBTV.com

Testamonials will be there. Corporate announcements and updates and promotional videos. This is now LIVE, so please visit, chime in and be part of the BB TV!!

Solid Trust Pay - the last mass payout, those who received payments you are still seeing "pending" in your log. We still need to updaet the script from STP to update these results. The ones that failed were several reasons. The main reason is that now STP usernames are "case sensitive". It didn't used to be, but is now. Also it could be the status of your STP account. If you want to receive over $250 to STP you must be Bank or Card Verified with proper ID uploaded, so please check your STP account and fix all of those. Once you do that, please "resubmit" your payout request and you will be in the same place you were in the queue.

We are working on Payza payout to go out very soon, followed by another STP.

Thank you to the beta testers for all the good work on Version 3 feedback. We are covering all the tweaks, so thank you for your feedback.

Thanks for the moderation on the Twitter and Facebook page. Thanks to Ron and to the support team down in Belize. They are responding quickly to all issues.

One more thing about STP. I understand that when STP upgraded some of their IDs were not tranferred over, so please double check with STP and verifiy that everything on that side is up to date and in place, then resubmit.

Questions:

Lots of questions about STP. We will type this all up and make sure this is all clear and it will be in the back office.

Lots of repeat questions. We will be making sure all the details about STP is clear.

We will continue with the payout order that we have. Thank you for coming to the call. Stay tuned, stay involved, check out the blogs, check out the dashboard, Twitter and Facebook. Mention these details to your teams and other BB members. Thank you for being here! Onward and upward.

(end of webinar)
(summary notes prepared by Linda Lane and are not meant to be official BB transcripts. Please include this with all repostings!)

If this was a show I attended, I'd be at the box office, waving my ticket angrily, and asking for my money back.

In view of Mr Stepsys' helpful response to one of his downline, I think that it's appropriate to remind everyone of this - Simon Stepsys mentioned in a UK Parliamentary debate back in 2001.

First, here is the link:

House of Commons Hansard Debates for 2 Feb 2001 (pt 10)

And here is a screenshot:

1st Nov SS.jpg

And here is another helpful link, dating back to 1999, about Mr S:-

http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/fre...ease_18_99.pdf

If anyone can get a good screenshot of that, please do - I'm not clever enough at screenshots to get it all in. Makes interesting reading, mind you....

Originally Posted by Della Cate

And here is another helpful link, dating back to 1999, about Mr S:-

http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/fre...ease_18_99.pdf

If anyone can get a good screenshot of that, please do - I'm not clever enough at screenshots to get it all in. Makes interesting reading, mind you....

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Originally Posted by Della Cate

And here is another helpful link, dating back to 1999, about Mr S:-

http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/fre...ease_18_99.pdf

If anyone can get a good screenshot of that, please do - I'm not clever enough at screenshots to get it all in. Makes interesting reading, mind you....

Typical of bb scammers they are all repeat offenders..........scumbags.........Allan Mitchell here in NZ was fined $100,000 by our commerce commission a few years back fro selling women pills that were to make their breasts firmer.......needless to say they didn't ....lol
For those of you who you have followed this blog for a while now, he is the guy who's youtube video was with a nice older lady who had just had brain surgery and Allan Mitchell was making out he is a hero for helping her financially!!! *******
Kiwi

Serial Scammers and Fraudsters Less Prossor, Karen the Bogan Logan of Gympie and others still promoting this illegal ponzi - still running meetings trying to scam hard-earned money out of the unsuspecting.
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Oh dear. Bruce Lamb (Hi, Bruce!) has raised his head again. Well, he never really went away, but he slowed down additions to his "Banner Alchemy" blog considerably. He made 2 entries in October, both webinar reports, and now he has added Alan Sills latest video, and the following comment:-

Things are getting back on track!!

V3 is near completion and Alan Sills a v3 Beta tester brings to us his version of events. Unlike Al, i have received an earlier payment that wasnt completed due to STP server changes some time ago and im looking forward to the regular cash flow that BB can bring when fully operational. There are other people i know who have been paid so were slowly getting back on track.. Onward and Upward.

Posted by Bruce Lamb at 00:37 No comments:

Here's the link, anyway:-

Banner Alchemy: November 2013

For what it's worth, the BB site is now down (8am UK time, 2/11/13), according to "Is it down right now?".

And indeed, trying to find it brings up "File not found".

I really have never known such an unstable site! Gosh, I wonder why that is?

Here's a much clearer version of the article on Mr S:-

United Kingdom Government News: COURTS HALTS MISLEADING HOMEWORKING ADS

Helpfully, it also provides Simon S's address at the time.

And here is a cut n paste copy - I have bolded some bits I find especially significant:-

No 18/99

COURT HALTS MISLEADING HOMEWORKING ADS

The High Court today stopped a Cheshire trader from advertising homeworking schemes containing false promises of earnings.

An interim order was granted to John Bridgeman, Director General of Fair Trading, against Simon Stepsys, trading as Win-Star Direct (formerly PressWise Marketing) of Nantwich. Mr Stepsys agreed in advance to today''s order being made and was not represented in Court.

Mr Stepsys continued to promote and operate a number of homeworking schemes despite giving undertakings to the Director General, in August last year, that he would stop the publication and dissemination of misleading advertisements. Today''s injunction restrains Mr Stepsys from making false or misleading claims regarding working from home schemes and on winning the pools and betting on horse racing.

John Bridgeman said: ''This is not the first time that Mr Stepsys'' unsatisfactory advertising methods have come to the attention of my Office. His record to date shows a wilful disregard for the advertising standards imposed by the law and by the Advertising Standards Authority as well as for Cheshire''s Trading Standards Department.

''Consumers should be very wary of paying in advance for "easy money" home working schemes. Under a genuine scheme you should expect to earn money rather than pay it out. Mr Stepsys''s schemes preyed on the vulnerable. Anyone who suspects such a scheme should report it to their local trading standards officer and help to expose the scam and save others from being caught out.''

The advertisements, which appeared in national and regional newspapers and classified-ads magazines, encouraged consumers to send for details which made claims for the best paid homework plans ever'' but omitted essential information about what the work involved, the availability of the work, and gave a misleading impression of the earnings potential.

The schemes required consumers to register by paying a fee of #20 - #25 to work from home and promising high earnings which failed to materialise. Rewards offered included: Earn Thousands of Pounds Weekly With No Investment Whatsoever!'' - Earn Up To #400 A Night'' and even Unlimited Earnings''.

Most complaints concerned two particular schemes: Homework & Moneymakers'', which claimed earnings of make #19,500 plus in 3 months, and Earn #100 per hundred'', which claimed that by sending us addressed envelopes you can earn all the extra money you need daily by working from home in your spare time.'' These claims could not be substantiated.

NOTES

1 Mr Simon Stepsys has been operating from 96 Welch Row, Nantwich, Cheshire.

2 The Control of Misleading Advertisements Regulations 1988 gives the Director General of Fair Trading the power to apply to the Court for an injunction when he has received a complaint about an advertisement which he considers misleading. Such an injunction may apply to any person appearing to be concerned with the publication of the advertisement.

3 An advertisement is defined, for the purpose of the Regulations, as ''any form of representation which is made in connection with a trade, business, craft or profession in order to promote the supply or transfer of goods or services, immovable property, rights or obligations''. The Regulations apply if an advertisement ''deceives or is likely to deceive the persons to whom it is addressed or whom it reaches and if, by reason of its deceptive nature, it is likely to affect their economic behaviour, or for those reasons, injures or is likely to injure a competitor of the person whose interests the advertisement seeks to promote''.The OFT publishes a wide range of consumer leaflets which are available free from: OFT, PO Box 366, Hayes UB3 1XB # = pounds sterling

Originally Posted by Mundorf

Unfortunately, I do not think this guy has many possibilities to get money back from Stepsys as probably the money was given without any written conditions and promisses - what was eventually said and spoken will have low impact on the court as this is probably 1 against 1 statement....ofcourse it's just my opinion

Now if there is evidence then it's likely that this person can show that there is the basis of a contract that has not been fulfilled. I don't think SS is going to be able to defend anything is he? He's not going to want to reply to any court documents, because he can't, nor would he want to go to court personally....

If it were me, I think I'd be asking for a straight forward judgment against him which is likely to be given. Yet another CCJ on his name. I wonder how many he has? No wonder it's strictly cash.........

Issue for anyone who is taking this way forward is that the most difficult bit would be getting the money out of him (I referred to this in an earlier post).

I also think that Mr S is likely to be well known to other authorities. If he's already been mentioned in the House of Commons, I guess that will be a trigger...

@Julie Diligent: I agree about the pointy finger ;)

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Oh dear. Bruce Lamb (Hi, Bruce!) has raised his head again. Well, he never really went away, but he slowed down additions to his "Banner Alchemy" blog considerably. He made 2 entries in October, both webinar reports, and now he has added Alan Sills latest video, and the following comment:-

Things are getting back on track!!

V3 is near completion and Alan Sills a v3 Beta tester brings to us his version of events. Unlike Al, i have received an earlier payment that wasnt completed due to STP server changes some time ago and im looking forward to the regular cash flow that BB can bring when fully operational. There are other people i know who have been paid so were slowly getting back on track.. Onward and Upward.

Posted by Bruce Lamb at 00:37 No comments:

Here's the link, anyway:-

Banner Alchemy: November 2013

Fully operational ????....after years of presence ...with genius programmer ever....some might think Chris is a scammer

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Now if there is evidence then it's likely that this person can show that there is the basis of a contract that has not been fulfilled. I don't think SS is going to be able to defend anything is he? He's not going to want to reply to any court documents, because he can't, nor would he want to go to court personally....

If it were me, I think I'd be asking for a straight forward judgment against him which is likely to be given. Yet another CCJ on his name. I wonder how many he has? No wonder it's strictly cash.........

Issue for anyone who is taking this way forward is that the most difficult bit would be getting the money out of him (I referred to this in an earlier post).

I also think that Mr S is likely to be well known to other authorities. If he's already been mentioned in the House of Commons, I guess that will be a trigger...

@Julie Diligent: I agree about the pointy finger ;)

AshKen you right - evidence is everything once in court...only people like SS try always to act without evidence if possible as mostly what they do is fraud...now if I were that guy I would do a contract verified by a public notary...but then even if he did it,I see here more the case between that guy and BB where SS as a part of the fraud,could be charged