Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Little Jamie Waters has changed his Facebook profile picture

I wonder if all Banners Broker affiliates are having such a nice time?

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https://www.facebook.com/watersj

Originally Posted by littleroundman

"She is going to see you on the next video" ! Not only is she hearing voices but she is also seeing people.

" Canada and America are untapped" Yep, Canada definitely seems untapped since Raza Aziz and Shabaz Khan stopped doing their 'meetings'. In fact it's so wide open now because these two boys, who were using Eventbrite to advertise their BB meetings around Toronto have mysteriously ( cough) taken BB off their facebook pages, their linkedin accounts and Aziz is now flaunting Empower Network and his team UNITED international.

It occurred to me reading up on this Team business, that there are a huge number of individuals who are akin to the old gold rush pioneers and indeed are aware that some will lose out and you may have to take a number of 'hits' but the big one could be right around the corner. In other words, while we are so adamant that you shouldn't join these ponzi schemes, many are knowingly do so just in case they miss out?? Is it no coincidence that these internet guru's are so removed from their ilk by distance etc, that that is exactly the reason Canada is 'wide open'.

My intrigue that the likes of McCarthy and Stepsys can walk their communities with out concern is probably because they haven't 'sh1t on their own doorsteps'? Am beginning to think that the likes of Jerrgo's uncle are the exception and the rule is the same old codgers just recirculating different drival and schemes on different days to the same old audience? That is the job, that is the occupation. Aziz can drop and insert whatever he likes on his linkedin page, depending on his current scheme and no one bats and eyelid. The internet truly is a very deceptive place ;(

Brenda There are a lot of older people like my uncle. These are easy targets for Stepsys and his ilk. Then there are naive, or uneducated, or easily led people. These are genuine victims.
And it is on their behalf that you and I, and all the guys on RS are fighting the BB cancer.
But as you say, a huge amount of the "affiliates", maybe even the majority, have jumped into BB from some other scam. And when BB sinks, they will probably move on to another ponzi.
You just have to look on MMG, and see some of the posters complaining about BB robbing them. And they have a couple of other scams in their Signatures!!!

There are anti scam groups which some of us have joined, and crusading anti BB fb pages (such as BBPS), and blogs such as Tara's. And of course RS.
We are all fighting the BB cancer in different ways, It is for the first group we are all fighting, the real victims. Certainly not for the serial hyipers.
And we wont stop until BB is dead and buried.

Stepsys certainly did ***t on his own doorstep, see Court order And House of commons (column 603)
As for McCarthy, well this is his first foray into the scam profession, but probably he will now make a career out of it.

Much joy over at the BB Fb page about recent payments (at least from whoever is not running the page - a number of posters are complaining that THEY haven't had ANYTHING yet.)

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Well, that's told us...rest easily, all is well in BB World! Except for those who have not received anything yet, of course.

Oh no - he's back!

Another video from Alan Sills Esquire....

Banners Broker

Banners Broker Pays! Latest News... - YouTube

I especially like an early comment from Alan about Chris Smith "This is a sharp guy who's not particularly prone to deadlines".

Al, mate, you can say that again; what is it, nine months plus and some members of BB still have not been paid??

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Oh no - he's back!

Another video from Alan Sills Esquire....

Banners Broker

Banners Broker Pays! Latest News... - YouTube

I especially like an early comment from Alan about Chris Smith "This is a sharp guy who's not particularly prone to deadlines".

Al, mate, you can say that again; what is it, nine months plus and some members of BB still have not been paid??

He has star billing with me tonight. This butt kisser needs to be SEEN, don't you think?

UH OH........



You can read the original article at The Irish Examiner

"There is only a certain number of affiliates who can be paid at any one time" !!!???...what a statement..ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER...scam teaches victims that being and staying unpaid is normal condition and that NOBODY(certain number) should find anything strange if the money never appears....scam wants people feed their accounts and never await anything...Mr.Chris is just spoiled as hell ...he wants everything...he wants corpse walking even after death ...he wants loyalty even after disintegrity..a perfect scam

Originally Posted by Mundorf

"There is only a certain number of affiliates who can be paid at any one time" !!!???...what a statement..ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER...scam teaches victims that being and staying unpaid is normal condition and that NOBODY(certain number) should find anything strange if the money never appears....scam wants people feed their accounts and never await anything...Mr.Chris is just spoiled as hell ...he wants everything...he wants corpse walking even after death ...he wants loyalty even after disintegrity..a perfect scam

Excellent post and one which I hope newbies and fence riders read.

Source: ( as LRM's post two above http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...html#post60524)
Scheme leaves 15,000 out of pocket | Irish Examiner

Banners Broker had vigorously denied it was a pyramid scheme, but has told investors its current difficulties arose because of a failure to attract enough new entrants.

If it was "an advertisement company" then why did it need to attract new people? The only scheme needing to attract new entrants is a pyramid or ponzi scheme.

Mr McCarthy said his “life has been turned upside down” in the past month and the fallout has caused him the “world of hassle”.

In spite of the fact that he was asked about all this before last December? He was asked about due diligence and accounts and all he did then was abuse people as "negative bloggers" and claim BB would certainly make money. He has a long record of talking up BB and attacking any serious and objective enquiry into it

He is fearful of the consequences even though the company is still trading internationally.

It isn't and never has been! It never produced accounts in India Belize or Canada!
There isn't any office in Belize other than a nameplate on a front door which is used as a mailing address. No "trade" has ever happened . All BB did was take money from people , keep about 99 per cent for the people running the scam and pay off the odd person the other 1% to get them to promote BB. Maybe Mc Carthy got 1% or 2% of the Irish money. 10,000 people at even $100 a go is one million. Mc Carthy talked up BB to others without any due diligence for maybe 10to 20,000 while BB biosses walked of will maybe millions. If "life has turned upside down" he can't say he was not warned and if he is getting "world of hassle" then he has only himself to blame.

I seriously doubt he has his phone on all the time and is dealing with 10,000 Irish investors. In any case he can't do anything. It is a Ponzi and the money is gone!

He was given a day’s notice that the Banners Broker contract would be ended

Where is his copy of this "contract"?
Where does it say he can be given a day's notice?
Ill bet Mc Carthy can't produce anything to back this up!

“All support queries will now be handled by Banners Broker International. All existing queries have been forwarded and will be processed by the Belize office directly,”

I mention this again for what it is worth. There is no Belize support office. It is a Ponzi scam!

If he really lost money then I really like that news :)

Originally Posted by ICCBernd

If he really lost money then I really like that news :)

No. He is trying to portray himself as a victim now. Plenty of evidence on the ground that he, and his family have made a lot of money from BB, on the back of victims he has helped hoodwink. . New cars in the family circle, house extensions. Nice foreign holidays.
McCarthy was a tyre fitter. BB was his entry into the profession of scamming. And he took to it like a duck to water. Guaranteed that we will see him go from one scam to another now. He has had a taste of scam management, and he and his family like the rewards.

Simon Stepsys,

This is Your Life:







UK Office of Fair Trading

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Brenda There are a lot of older people like my uncle. These are easy targets for Stepsys and his ilk. Then there are naive, or uneducated, or easily led people. These are genuine victims.
And it is on their behalf that you and I, and all the guys on RS are fighting the BB cancer.
But as you say, a huge amount of the "affiliates", maybe even the majority, have jumped into BB from some other scam. And when BB sinks, they will probably move on to another ponzi.
You just have to look on MMG, and see some of the posters complaining about BB robbing them. And they have a couple of other scams in their Signatures!!!

There are anti scam groups which some of us have joined, and crusading anti BB fb pages (such as BBPS), and blogs such as Tara's. And of course RS.
We are all fighting the BB cancer in different ways, It is for the first group we are all fighting, the real victims. Certainly not for the serial hyipers.
And we wont stop until BB is dead and buried.

Stepsys certainly did ***t on his own doorstep, see Court order And House of commons (column 603)
As for McCarthy, well this is his first foray into the scam profession, but probably he will now make a career out of it.

Jerrygo, I agree with alot of what you are saying, but to clarify, yes, Stepsys has a history going back a number of years ago of scamming on a local level, but my point, badly put, is that these same scammers are going so much further afield with the help of these youtube videos and such. They place themselves out of the reach of country law, those scammed etc by touting internationally. Reference the number of youtube BB videos that sprung up that clouded the negative press BB was starting to receive. All you have to do is google Raza Aziz and see the number of youtubes videos this narcassist has out there touting the 'scheme du jour'.

When you look further at this, the same pattern emerges, the new 'Thing' proclaimed in the new video, the endorsements from 'followers' , the subsequent videos by same followers. Aziz is in the last 18 months, ex Numis ( that coin scheme) and ex BB. There is a Numis video on line still but all traces of BB are pretty much wiped from the net. There is no backlash comments, no negative comments on these videos. In other words, the CLUB work together.

Now, I started my anti BB campaign when I first discovered they were in Ireland to protect, hopefully, the likes of your uncle. I did think at that point that BB was the organisation and that the vast majority of affiliates were suckered in and innocent hopefuls buying into the dream. Now I see that the likes of your uncle are the props to many making money and hitting the hills, not just the likes of McCarthy representing Ireland or Stepsys representing the UK. I merely pointing out that this journey has really opened my eyes to the seedy side of the internet and scary number of people who would sell their grannies without the blink of an eye.

On the upside, for all the above and the negatives of the internet, it also allows the work to be done by those you have indicated, in combating the scammers online.

Originally Posted by Beacon

Source: ( as LRM's post two above http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...html#post60524)
Scheme leaves 15,000 out of pocket | Irish Examiner



If it was "an advertisement company" then why did it need to attract new people? The only scheme needing to attract new entrants is a pyramid or ponzi scheme.


In spite of the fact that he was asked about all this before last December? He was asked about due diligence and accounts and all he did then was abuse people as "negative bloggers" and claim BB would certainly make money. He has a long record of talking up BB and attacking any serious and objective enquiry into it


It isn't and never has been! It never produced accounts in India Belize or Canada!
There isn't any office in Belize other than a nameplate on a front door which is used as a mailing address. No "trade" has ever happened . All BB did was take money from people , keep about 99 per cent for the people running the scam and pay off the odd person the other 1% to get them to promote BB. Maybe Mc Carthy got 1% or 2% of the Irish money. 10,000 people at even $100 a go is one million. Mc Carthy talked up BB to others without any due diligence for maybe 10to 20,000 while BB biosses walked of will maybe millions. If "life has turned upside down" he can't say he was not warned and if he is getting "world of hassle" then he has only himself to blame.

I seriously doubt he has his phone on all the time and is dealing with 10,000 Irish investors. In any case he can't do anything. It is a Ponzi and the money is gone!


Where is his copy of this "contract"?
Where does it say he can be given a day's notice?
Ill bet Mc Carthy can't produce anything to back this up!



I mention this again for what it is worth. There is no Belize support office. It is a Ponzi scam!

Did McCarthy say 'investors' ! Getting their 'investments' back??

Why is it the only country who's media have any appetite for dealing with BB is Ireland? Fair play to the Examiner. Is this not what other journalists should be jumping on??

Adpub combo how are ya! Or should I say Adpub combo where are ya !

Post by scamassassin007 on MMG




BB Leaders Threaten Affiliates!

Please Read Both Screen Shots.... This Is How The BB Leaders Handle Revolt!
Instead of helping their teams.. The answer seems to me more GESTAPO type tactics to silence any Negativity! More and more people are being deleted and / or blocked from the BB Skype rooms, BB facebook pages, and talkingBB.! Even more HARSH tactics has been clamping down with the NEWS of SELECTIVE PAYMENTS (Looks Like About 7 Were Paid) and Many thousands more have never been paid!

And the news that is coming out of the Irish Examiner: http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/schem...ket-242663.html

I HOPE THE AUTHORITIES ARE READING THIS!





Notice they had the audacity to THANK EVERYONE FOR THE POSITIVE COMMENTS... <====

Unbelievable!




This Alan sounds like a real scumbag .I wonder if we knew anyone BB douche named Alan in Colorado,possibliy someone with a mobile home..

I would like to nominate 'Arthur Crank' over at the Irish Taxi Drivers Forum for 'Denial of the Year award 2013'

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Originally Posted by HARRISON

I would like to nominate 'Arthur Crank' over at the Irish Taxi Drivers Forum for 'Denial of the Year award 2013'

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Unfortunately the people who still believe now are like those religious loons that accept they should give all their earnings to the "guru" and let him sleep with their wives, there is no way through to these people now. Even if Raj and Chris are arrested tomorrow and confess, a lot of these people will blame "negative bloggers"

Speaking of negative bloggers, I've been a successful businessman for close to 30 years. I haven't often heard businesses spouting the "stay positive" mantra the way these "businessmen" do. Imagine going on Dragons Den with a rubbish (or in this case fictional) business plan and when you get trounced and ridiculed, answer by going "I'm putting out positive energy in this, so it will work"

BB is a scam ponzi fraud. Always has been, run by crooks to fleece those most desperate and needy. and for this reason, I'm out.

Originally Posted by Brenda

Did McCarthy say 'investors' ! Getting their 'investments' back??

From the Examiner article

Mr McCarthy said some money is being paid to people. Those who are yet to get back the value of their original investment are being treated on a preferential basis to those who already made their money back.

...

Mr McCarthy said he has lost heavily as a result of his investment in the product, including the lease he took on the Dublin Hill office.

Originally Posted by Dreamstealer

I haven't often heard businesses spouting the "stay positive" mantra the way these "businessmen" do. Imagine going on Dragons Den with a rubbish (or in this case fictional) business plan and when you get trounced and ridiculed, answer by going "I'm putting out positive energy in this, so it will work"

Im reminded of the guy falling from the sky scraper. As each floor flies past and the ground rushes to meet him he says to himself " so far so good" :)

Originally Posted by baylee

Excellent post and one which I hope newbies and fence riders read.

With the amount of fence sitting they are doing, it's gonna take the MMG Banners Broker shills like "willwork4food" and "rooneyfenomeno" ten years to extract the last of the splinters out of their a**

Question: at what point does positive thinking become plain stupidity ?

Maybe it's true maybe not, but a little birdie told me Stellar Point is terminating all of its employees and closing its doors. Can BB be far behind? This is what happens to most of these scams after a couple of years, they either get shut down or they voluntarily close shop.

Jason...please check your facebook messages. Thanks.

If anybody here has Jasons contact number, PLEASE ask him URGENTLY to check his Facebook messages. Thanks.

Just posted on Banners Brokers Ponzi Scam page:

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