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    Some news about Ian Driscolls latest venture...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    Some news about Ian Driscolls latest venture...

    TARA TALKS: Readers Stories - AL

    Here is Mr Ian Driscoll now scamming in Trinidad & Tobago.

    He he "Advertising's a very difficult beast"



    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Yawn. I've just spoken to Stepsys' half nephew. I asked if they were related, he said "Yeah, keep away from him, he's bad news." ... I asked him to come over here and have a chat.

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe View Post
    Here is Mr Ian Driscoll now scamming in Trinidad & Tobago.

    He he "Advertising's a very difficult beast"


    His like Arthur Daleys evil twin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    Some news about Ian Driscolls latest venture...

    TARA TALKS: Readers Stories - AL
    Yes, according to our old pal, Mark Stokes, Mr Driscoll is the Uk National Sales Director for Flexcom.

    Stokes flexcom.jpg

    Stokes himself seems to have dropped BB like the proverbial hot potato and is pimping away at Flexcom.

    Flexkom launches Phase II in the UK | Mark Stokes

    Tell me, do these people EVER do what I'd call a "proper" job? They seem to jump from one venture to another. It's depressing to see various names crop up throughout BB, and now again elsewhere, and all of them what I'd term dodgy deals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    His like Arthur Daleys evil twin...
    Not Arthur Daley. BB is more like Del Boy- No income tax, no VAT, No money back , no guarantees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamstealer View Post
    Not Arthur Daley. BB is more like Del Boy- No income tax, no VAT, No money back , no guarantees.
    Yes but you are leaving out the Major "No" as in 'No Product' .. and on a lighter note there is a person called "Will work for food" on MMG who still believes that V3 will solve all the problems, you could not make him up.. right back to eagerly awaiting this afternoons webovlies, ...

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    The funniest thing is watching the few remaining "true believers" still discussing strategies and solutions, just as if it is a real business they are discussing and not just a smoke and mirrors HYIP ponzi fraud.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Here we go: (get the puke bags ready)


    BB Friday Q&A Webinar 8/9/13

    We have a strong team working behind the scenes.

    Payouts are going out according to the schedule, with people who haven't been paid first and then in date order.

    We are working on Version 3 and things are going well with that.

    Q&A

    Martin Wilde: I work the business from my heart. I can't work any business unless I have complete belief. I have been with BB for 22 months. I've been a big supporter, and that's because when I first saw BB I did my due diligence and quickly got a strong feeling that it was good. My background was in advertising, so I had some insight into buying online traffic. Alot of the people have never gotten their heads around it. When any company grows as fast as BB did, there will be challenges. Fast growth is difficult to handle. There are issues with the company at the moment. I am only still here supporting Chris, because I know that if this company was looking for a way to run away, that would have happened a long time ago. I have spent time with Chris and I believe in his character and in his vision. He's done something that not many people do. He took an idea and ran with it and made a company that has paid out over $18 Million over time. The company has made mistakes and the affiliate have made mistakes. We have to pull together and work as a team if we want to get to this. I'm not privy to all the information but I know some of the things that are coming. I'm here until the fat lady sings, and Chris has promised me that she won't be singing. With all the new changes, remember, you don't need to rely on traffic packs to build your business. If you speak to new people about BB, as long as you tell them everything honestly. I didnt' know 2 years ago if BB would still be here today, so there always is a risk, but there is less risk now than when I joined. This company has proved itself, because BB is still here. There is alot of work happening behind the scenes that wouldn't be happening if Chris didn't believe in the future of BB. BB has done alot for me and my family. I want to do my part. I have reversed my withdrawals and begun using the new lower withdrawal system. It's our responsibility to get through this. There are always challenges, but this is what busienss is all about. It doesn't always go perfectly. If BB can get things back to normal, then everyone here on this call will be in a great place.

    Chris:
    Thank you very much. I appreciate Martin's passion. I'm glad to have him on the team.

    Questions:

    What are some of the items or things that you need to do to help BB? Promote and generate your own traffic through your social networks, emailing etcetera. We're going to be giving you some marketing tips for using social networks. Surveys is one of the things. Watching videos, etc. (please watch the replay to get all of this word for word) Driving traffic, watching videos, surveys, etc.

    Duncan Woods:
    I'd just like to say I've been in BB for 2 years. I was the most sceptical person. I've been scammed and everything else. When I started BB I can honestly say, it is the best business I have ever done. BB has changed more lives than any other business. I came out to Canada to meet Chris. I came away with 100% belief that Chris can turn this company around. I can't wait for Version 3.

    Chris: Thank you for your support and for being with us.

    Paul McCarthy: My history with BB goes back to 2011. My background is in mechanics. I tried many other businesses which didn't last more than 3-6 months. I started BB and just watched. I got 10 people from Ireland and we believed in everything we saw. I traveled to Canada to meet Chris in Nov. 2011. I finally met Chris in person. The bloggers are always negative. People come to me and ask is the company going to last next month or next year. I tell them, if Chris was goign to go, he would have gone in March when all the problems started happening. I believe Chris is goign to turn this around. Its frustrating, it's tough. When everything was fantastic, we were here. So when things go wrong, we should also be here. We have the responsibility to our teams. If the leader leaves, the team is left alone. We are going thru tough times, but hang in there. It's going to take some time. But we will then experience the same growth we did in the first 3 years.

    Chris:

    There are more leaders who have helped BB build the company to where it is. We can overcome these challenges and get to the next phase.

    I wanted this call to be different. Please listen to the recording and share it with others. I've tried to give you updates on payouts and Version 3. Alot of things are happening in the background. We are cooking. We are working hard. Keep the feedback coming. I do read this. I am not doing this alone. it is with you and with your feedback. To see what changes need to be made. I don't want to make changes that are intolerable. I want the affiliates happy and to stay with us as we move forward.

    (NOTE: please watch the replay, as this is just brief notes, not all that was said by Chris or others)

    Have a great weekend. Take Care.

    (end of webinar)
    (summary notes prepared by Linda Lane, and not official transcripts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    The funniest thing is watching the few remaining "true believers" still discussing strategies and solutions, just as if it is a real business they are discussing and not just a smoke and mirrors HYIP ponzi fraud.
    If the True Believers ever admit it to themselves then they will then have to admit they helped to scam/steal money from family, friends, and neighbors not to mention friendships that will be lost. That would have to be a bitter pill to swallow for a True Believer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newto View Post
    Here we go: (get the puke bags ready)


    BB Friday Q&A Webinar 8/9/13

    We have a strong team working behind the scenes.

    Payouts are going out according to the schedule, with people who haven't been paid first and then in date order.

    We are working on Version 3 and things are going well with that.


    I wanted this call to be different. Please listen to the recording and share it with others. I've tried to give you updates on payouts and Version 3. Alot of things are happening in the background. We are cooking. We are working hard. Keep the feedback coming. I do read this. I am not doing this alone. it is with you and with your feedback. To see what changes need to be made. I don't want to make changes that are intolerable. I want the affiliates happy and to stay with us as we move forward.

    (summary notes prepared by Linda Lane, and not official transcripts)
    Who is we? The staff at headquarters in Belize? A couple of people working in his condo in Toronto? There is no BB registered company in Canada so where is the staff working out of? Stellar has no more staff dedicated to BB. So who and where is the "we" that is working so hard?

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    "But we will then experience the same growth we did in the first 3 years"....the only thing Chris wants affiliates and others to experience is to leave and forget BB...funny isn't it but that's the only way how to end the scam without drawing attention so that Chris can walk away as a Lord while members should fall in deep sleep and lose any interest to move around BB ...it started as fraud,lived as fraud and now even the death is fraud par excellence

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    if this company was looking for a way to run away, that would have happened a long time ago.
    Well, perhaps, although letting thousands of affiliates know your real names kind of makes that a bit more complicated.

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    Q&A webinar?

    One question and three glowing testimonials is pushing that description to the maximum.

    The irony of this:

    Promote and generate your own traffic through your social networks, emailing etcetera. We're going to be giving you some marketing tips for using social networks. Surveys is one of the things. Watching videos, etc. (please watch the replay to get all of this word for word) Driving traffic, watching videos, surveys, etc.
    ...is that BB is now leveraging its affiliates to make money through actual second-tier affiliate marketing. Shock horror.

    Anybody who has engaged in this kind of affiliate marketing will know exactly where it ranks: Right at the bottom of the pile.

    They are squeaking every last cent out of their database. It's shameless to the point where all I can do is shake my head.

    On one hand, I wish people would pull their heads out of their asses.

    On the other hand, I work in advertising. My job would be a lot harder if these people plugged their brains in.
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    Re Friday's webinar my reaction is this; YUK!

    And then there were three.

    Martin Wild: "I work the business from my heart".
    Duncan Wood: "It is the best business I have ever done"
    Paul Mc Carthy:"I believe Chris is going to turn this around"

    Really, gentlemen? Really, really, really?

    Where's the other players now, like Stepsys, Stokes, Lamb, Sharon James (?), Waterfield, "Little Jamie", etc who used to be so loud and stout in defence of BB. All gone, blown away like leaves on the wind, off to other schemes and ventures one must assume.

    And that webinar told you absolutely nothing. To (mis)quote Shakespeare, and with apologies to the bard for making just one change to Macbeth's words below:-

    To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
    Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
    To the last syllable of recorded time;
    And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
    The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
    BB's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
    And then is heard no more. It is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    Lisa Shoman has a very good reputation regarding civil rights etc. Quite a surprising choice for BB. Possibly she didn't know the nature of the business she was being asked to represent.
    The contact details given out by SP seem to be as useful as BB's own support system. She is not answering phone calls or emails.
    On her FB page she posts almost daily, but the couple of questions posted there about Bb remain unanswered. And she hasn't deleted the comments.
    Perhaps she has decided to do a bit of research on BB before answering.

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    Meanwhile, over at Finchy's place, Harrison (Tara) posted this a few days ago:

    harrison says:
    August 4, 2013 at 12:41 am
    I have some news about Chris Smith to share…make up your own mind if you think it has any truth to it. But I believe its true….
    http://taratalkstoday.blogspot.co.uk/p/breaking-news.html

    As you can see, she posted evidence suggesting that Chris Smith was on the Board of Governors of Ryerson University. Only, a commenter then linked to a page of Ryerson Alumni showing that the Chris Smith in question was not in fact our favourite roly-poly Ponzi principal.

    But Harrison's post spurred me to finish a write-up I was doing a while ago of my research into Smith's identity and background... what might appear on his CV were he to release it (and tell the truth, of course). The document would indeed have to include a post at Ryerson, but not a... er... BoG seat.

    I abandoned the write-up because it was turning into War and Peace and by then it was clear SS Banners Broker was holed below the waterline and not long for the deep... so I thought why waste my time.

    Anyway, 3 months on, the empty vessel is still chugging along, intent on squeezing every last cent it can from the Suckersphere before it sinks, for what could be several months more. So here it all is: one more torpedo of truth.

    Best grab yourself a bucket of popcorn and supersize Coke, though; this is my longest (and very last) excursion down into the Banners Broker rabbit hole. Or should that be snake-pit?

    It was this post of Sam's that set me off sharpening my trusty dot-connecting pencil once more:

    Quote Originally Posted by samuel.r View Post
    Back on page 200 and something, I believe Julie found that Chris Smith was an employee of DonRiver at one point in time. This morning, I was trying to enhance my career so I (of course) went right to stteps.com. Interesting, I found this page: Stteps - Technology, Trends, Teamwork Note near the bottom "Presented by Stellarpoint and Donriver". So not only did Chris work there but it looks like DonRiver is partnered now with Stellarpoint at least on part of the scam activities.
    I did indeed make the original DonRiver Inc. connection Sam mentioned (noobs: backstory is here). On his LinkedIn profile, which I turned up last January, Smith claimed to have attended 'Ryerson University from 1990 to 2002' and be a 'Project Manager at DonRiver Inc. from March 2007 to Present'. He clearly hadn't updated it in a while.


    But since my post he's doctored his LinkedIn profile, removing the Ryerson reference completely and having us believe he's now a 'Project Manager at Chris Smith Inc.' There's no such entity in the Canada Federal Corporations registry, of course, and nothing else Googles up.

    Disappeared down the memory hole now, too, is the Stteps website itself, as you will have discovered had you clicked on the link in Sam's post, above.

    So here's a good question: If DonRiver is in bed with Banners Broker in this Ponzi fraud, is Stteps making it a threesome?

    I pose the question because when I did my drilling into Banners Broker's Choice Network a while back, it struck me as very odd that the Stteps site, whilst in the network, was very obviously not of the network. Meaning it looks and functions like a real, purposeful, third-party site, in stark contrast to the laughable faux sites created by Smith and the DYZ Media mob, holed up in his condo in downtown Toronto (noobs: backstory here, here, and here).


    Or rather condos, plural. It's since emerged he's taken a suite of them: Nos. 1901, 1902, 1905, and 1906.

    Next stop, that scambuster's best friend: Wayback Machine. Where would we be without that goldmine of serial online scammers' incriminating footprints, eh? I checked out the very first incarnation of the Stteps website, from the February 2004 archive, and... paydirt! The outfit behind Stteps is evidently...


    NetView Consultants Inc. aka NetView Solutions
    60 Bristol Road East,
    Suite 117Mississauga [20m west of Toronto]
    ON, L5R1Y1
    Canada

    ...and the individuals behind Stteps, who all conveniently posted their profiles, are...

    Mike Millar - co-founder

    Brent Ho-Young - 'technology consultant'

    ...and drum-roll, please, for this profile, reproduced in full...



    Christopher G Smith
    chris@stteps.com
    chris@netviewsolutions.ca


    "Christopher G Smith is a co-founder of STTEPS. Chris has been in the IT industry for 11 years starting with several positions with Ryerson University including Senior Network Administrator for the Continuing Education Corporate Division. After Ryerson, Chris went on to become a Pre-Sales Systems Engineer with a Value Added Reseller. Currently, Chris is a Technology Manager with Netview Solutions, an IT consulting services company helping companies develop and deploy the right choice in IT strategies to meet business goals.

    Chris holds a Bachelor of Commerce from Ryerson University majoring in Information Technology with a minor in Communications, and is certified with Microsoft (MCSE+I v4.0, MCSE v2K, MCT), Cisco (CCNA, CCNP, CCAI), Novell (CNA), and CompTIA (A+, Network+, CTT+)


    Chris enjoys downtown living and is (recently) happily married."

    Unfortunately, Smith's picture is missing, but I think we can safely assume he's the dumpy Diddler-in-Chief of whom we speak ill
    . Here's that 2004 archived Stteps.com site (click 'Profiles').

    (While you're there at Wayback, you might want to check out the archived recently disabled Stteps.com site with the 'Presented by Stellarpoint and Donriver' line that gives probable cause to suspect that DonRiver is involved in the Dikshit-Smith fuckery.)

    If you surf the original site, you'll deduce that Stteps... which stands for Solid Technology Talks Enhancing interPersonal Skills... no, seriously... was launched around November 2001 and looks like it was abandoned by late 2004. (Pity there was no gallery of pics from their social events.)

    You might also notice that the cached URL www.playline.ca/stteps/ gives away that the site was hosted at that time on the domain playline.ca. Both Netview and Playline domains were first registered between 2000 and 2003; let's see how they check out at DomainTools' oldest cached records from 2008 (unfortunately with address details made private):

    Domain: playline.ca
    Cache Date: 2008-12-23
    Approval date: 2000/12/01
    Registrant: Playline Consulting
    Administrative contact: Christopher Smith
    Postal address: Namespro.ca Private WHOIS


    Here's the current, but looking unfinished and abandoned, Playline site: http://www.playline.ca

    Domain: netviewsolutions.ca
    Cache Date: 2008-04-18
    Date-Approved: 2003/03/07
    Organization: Playline Consulting
    Admin-Name: Christopher Smith
    Admin-Postal: Namespro.ca Private WHOIS


    The Netview site exists no more, but here it is on Wayback Machine:


    There's no record in the Canada Federal Corporations database of NetView Solutions Inc., incidentally.

    All this suggests that Smith, whilst working as 'Senior Network Administrator' at Ryerson, in 2000 set up Playline Consulting on the side. You know where I'm going back to with my special pencil next, don't you? That's right; here's the first playline.ca site archived at Wayback Machine, from August 2002:


    I knew you'd be impressed by the sophistication of the home page. But a click away is this page:


    ...which suggests that Smith taught IT courses at a Toronto polytechnic: Humber College Institute of Technology and Advanced Learning.

    Corroborating that discovery is this site:


    Now then, let me see what dots I can connect while I'm down this corner of the rabbit hole...

    As search terms, the ubiquitous 'Christopher Smith' or 'Chris Smith' are a pain in the Googlies, returning pages of investigative dead-ends. But we can now nail that middle initial 'G' of his.

    When I was digging into Silverline Club (noobs: backstory), the now defunct pyramid scheme he developed with Kul Josun, the sacked Banners Broker VP of Sales and alleged multimillion-dollar embezzler of BB affiliates' funds, I came across these details in historical domain name records for silverlineclub-dot-com:

    Cache Date: 2008-01-14
    Registrant: Christopher Smith csmith5000@rogers.com
    110 Cumberland Street
    Suite 201 [maildrop]
    Toronto, Ontario M5R3V5

    Cache Date: 2008-02-20
    Registrant: George Smith domainservice80@gmail.com
    777 N. Rainbow Blvd.
    Suite 250 [maildrop]
    Las Vegas, Nevada 89107

    So Christopher GEORGE Smith it is. Well, well; how topical. Chris Smith: the future king of Ponziland?

    So let's see what '"Christopher George Smith" Toronto' Googles up...

    Yellow Pages yields these two results:


    Significantly, both are condos in downtown Toronto. He likes collecting those, doesn't he? Maybe these two are in his fraud-funded property portfolio, too.


    Meanwhile, the website TrainMark.com, a 'marketplace for the IT training industry' yields this nugget; it logs a Christopher G Smith as an instructor on a number of IT courses:


    As you can see, the courses listed do cross reference with the IT qualifications Smith claimed to have whilst at NetView.

    It remains an open question, then: Did Smith, over the span of 12 years stated on his original Linkedin profile (1990-2002), genuinely gain a B.Comm at Ryerson and stay on there as an employee? Or did he simply gain that clutch of IT certifications elsewhere... become an employee in Ryerson's IT department... and reasoned that, with his having worked there, he could bluff the Ryerson degree qualification?

    Or did he never graduate from, nor work for, Ryerson, but simply teach IT courses at Humber College? After all, we have no evidence at all to corroborate his claim of an association with Ryerson, either as student or employee. I couldn't turn anything up elsewhere; I guess we would need access to the alumni database to verify the claim.

    At least what's been uncovered so far does lend some support to the BB-drones' claim that he's an 'IT and maths genius'. Whilst I can buy 'IT expert', if not 'IT genius', I cannot buy the 'maths genius' bit. I mean, he has trouble working a simple spreadsheet. But maybe 'IT and Maths genius' is just a baseless conflation that was buzzing around the BB-hive... d'ya think?

    Right. Back to those Stellar Point, Stteps, and DonRiver dots...

    Piecing together the strands of evidence from the Stteps websites, Mike Millar's Linkedin profile, Brent Ho-Young's Linkedin profile, and the DonRiver executive team page, and other evidence already unearthed, here's my best guess (with a dash of mischievous speculation) about who's done what, and when:

    2000/1/2 - Whilst in the employ of Ryerson University, Smith teaches evening classes at Humber College and sets himself up the sideline Playline Consulting.

    2002 - Smith leaves Ryerson and joins Ottowa-based JDSU Inc. as a Pre-Sales Systems Engineer, where he meets Millar, who is also a JDSU Pre-Sales Systems Engineer.

    2002/3 - The duo found NetView Consultants Inc./NetView Solutions on the side. They hatch Stteps as an in-house project and somehow rope in Ho-Young, who's working as an Accenture management consultant (but he's probably just moonlighting at NetView; Accenture consultants' day-rate would've been eye-watering.)

    2006 - A breakawayteam of consultants from Accenture, including Ho-Young, set up DonRiver Inc.

    2007 - NetView Consultants is acquired by Netwave Communications Inc. Millar joins them, whilst Smith joins Ho-Young at DonRiver as a Project Manager.

    2007/8 - Smith moonlights as the IT guy and web wonk on Kul Josun's Silverline Club pyramid scheme, which he [Kul] hatched following his exit from the shut-down ICF Worldwide scam.

    (Could this be the point where Smiffy succumbs to temptation and goes to 'the dark side'?)

    2010 - Smith comes up with the idea of Banners Broker... teams up with Dikshit and Josun... who peddle it to the Ponzisphere as "The world's first straight line cycler-doubler".

    2011/12 - Smith sets up DYZ Media under the Stellar Point identity to contrive the Choice Network websites, one of which, he decided, should be a resuscitated and re-designed Stteps.com site. Perhaps he thought the IT group recruitment meetings it promoted had genuine potential... if only as a means to recruit more unwitting operatives to the Banners Broker/Stellar Point sting... which it fulfilled with a campaign last November.

    Which brings us full circle, back to the question of the Stteps-DonRiver-BB/SP connection...

    What exactly is, and has been, the extent of Brent Ho-Young's involvement, if any, in Banners Broker and Stellar Point? He's appears to be a guy with a lot of reputation to lose. Is he fully cognizant of the multimillion-dollar Ponzi fraud with which DonRiver is on record as having an association?

    Right, I'll leave you all with that question... put my special pencil away in the pencil box... and wait for the next online scam that engages my inner gumshoe. Shouldn't have too long to wait; do these looting leopards ever change their spots?

    Last edited by Julie Diligent; 08-10-2013 at 11:58 AM.
    "There's a sucker born every minute"... which wouldn't be so bad if there wasn't a sociopath to exploit them born every hour.

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    Impressive example of a professional at work. Thanks Julie.

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    I think there will be other dodgy connections turned up in time. Vector card services springs to mind, started up around the same time. BB was its only customer.
    Its CEO went on the world tour with BB, even after the dump. Did Chris and Raj have a finger in that pie also?
    And the moment Mastercard ditched BB, Vector dropped off the face of the earth on alexa rankings. graph.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerrygo View Post
    I think there will be other dodgy connections turned up in time. Vector card services springs to mind, started up around the same time. BB was its only customer.
    Its CEO went on the world tour with BB, even after the dump. Did Chris and Raj have a finger in that pie also?
    And the moment Mastercard ditched BB, Vector dropped off the face of the earth on alexa rankings. graph.png
    Would anyone be surprised to find the new payment processor is just another new one set up by Vector? That is why it is taking a long time as if you go with an established one it shouldn't take months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Roklin View Post
    Would anyone be surprised to find the new payment processor is just another new one set up by Vector? That is why it is taking a long time as if you go with an established one it shouldn't take months.
    I just don't get it why they still go through the trouble of "contracting" a new payment processor and creating version 3. Don't they know that they are dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newto View Post
    I just don't get it why they still go through the trouble of "contracting" a new payment processor and creating version 3. Don't they know that they are dead?
    Simple.

    It costs them nothing to do and every cent they take in is pure profit.

    It doesn't take long to rake in an extra few hundred thousand dollars.

    Think about it, 2 guys sitting in their bedroom with a shared laptop could be doing this and no one would be the wiser.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Willwork4food has posted on mmg, "There are rumors that the OSC has concluded their investigation and only gave suggestions"
    I would not be surprised if that did turn out to be the case. The OSC has a terrible reputation, even among many Canadians.
    i think they chose their 2 countries of operation well.
    Even a senator in the national assembly of Belize Lisa Shoman turns out to be BB's lawyer.

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    This is the Chris Smith from Ryerson University...a picture I eventually dug up myself. The 'anonymous' link I was given didn't work...
    CHRIS SMITH - REAL.jpg
    Last edited by HARRISON; 08-11-2013 at 12:22 PM.

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