A few posts of my own which were filled with damning information- due dilligence etc.
A few have said they've got the whole thread saved though.
I'll be naming and shaming recruiters that I know too-- just need to know the legal implications of doing so!
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Dallas College Richland Campus Music Advising Derrick Logozzo / Melissa Logan / Not NASM Accredited / Out of State Tuition Nightmare!
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Okay, well ... The Manchester, England seminar presenter was/could still be a Martin Wild. MARTINWILD.COM -- I took his name down from the other site as he left me an answerphone message threatening to sue for slander; and if he was linked to a scam again he would carry out his threat.
There's nothing defaming in this post any more than being involved with Banners Broker.
Supposedly this guy has met Kul Josuln, Chris Smith and all of the other 'top dogs'.
When he phoned me he was trying to be VERY patronizing blaming my aversion to Banners Broker on being 'an angry young man' and 'just having a joke' I assure you Mr Wild (if you see this) I am not. Your name has been given to all of the relevant authorities. And I'M not bluffing.
Jason Clark
A search on Yahoo, not Google, for the search string "Banners Broker" "Page 1 of 31" (including double-quotes) brings up result with 'Cached' link going to the Scam.com page.
So if you just do a sequence of 31 searches, each time upping the page number by one, you should find every page.
I tried doing so before, Julie; it was too hectic at work though!
They could not have made any arrangement with the UK tax man. If Banners Broker had collected VAT, that money was collected for The Crown and Customs and Excise would have made sure the the matter was settled to the satisfaction of The Crown. There is no way it coud have been settled privately. The matter would have been settled in a Crown Court.
You have found a very good web site to check if VAT registration numbers in EU are genuine and I hope this site gets a great deal more publicity here on RS.
Please could somebody copy this page. I have not got round to figuring out the best way to do it yet.
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These words may be very pertinent soon
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Well I was trying to upload a picture from talkingBB but it didn't go in so here it is again, I also Don't know why every time I post it does not show -
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Now, doesn't George look silly for removing those. Once again, I have archived the vital information off of that cesspool and put it right back up here!
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Well done, SBM.
There's some good information in there :)
SBM, Thanks for working out the login.
I can't help but be very curious and wonder why the threads disappear on "scam". Perhaps you can post your opinion. I've commented on how reminiscent this was re ASD thread on scam - Someone had rescued most of the pages on that thread too. Might have been you or "hopeful cynic"? Anyway, thanks for the work all the volunteers do to take down these scammers.
When I worked for George Dranichak for free as a moderator slaving under that very hostile Sojustask, I watched numerous threads disappear due to fake lawyer letters, idle threats and apparent incentives shall we say. George Dranichak is a porn producer and spammer that runs Scam only as a money making venture. It has never been the consumer watchdog site he tries to pass it off as. That is why I left.
We have no ads here at the present time and we will not cater to scammers. Thanks to all of you who give your time to warn others!
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Check out what some scammers err, affiliates are doing now. And how is that done anyway? Surely the Chief Scammers at BB would not approve or do we now have a scam within a scam?
hey all.
i have way too many panels than i can qualify,hence im selling panels is all colors in huge discount!!
12% discount for all panels, YELLOW to RED.
plus you save deposit fees and the days the panels alredy runs.I don't think that's wrong at all, the sooner we can get the seed money back and make profits the better it is. I am selling panels myself too with similar discounts. I can do it quite often too as always setting my panels 50% one and next 100% repurchase and so on.
Yep,Originally Posted by Char
it's a not uncommon scam within a scam.
HYIP ponzi players who have been around long enough to see the writing on the wall trying to offload their worthless "panels" to newbies.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
In a word, Char... well, maybe two... CAPITULATION and COLLUSION.
You need look no further for evidence of that than the back story to this post (#567) on page 19 from the now defunct Scam.com Banners Broker thread:
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SBM has posted a link to the PDF of page 19; if you take a look, you'll see that post #567 is not this one of mine but is one by samuel.r instead. The reason? Mine was pulled by Scam.com Admin a couple of days after posting. At the same time, they pulled the PropertyWikia thread and I was denied posting privileges. Why? Because of this one sentence:
"Indeed, it was because a number of complaints were received about PropertyWikia that the serial scammer behind it, one Timothy Končar (alias Julian Vincent), was pulled in for questioning."
Let me explain...
On 6th September last year, a thread was started on Scam.com titled PropertyWikia (RMV Group) Scam. It went ballistic within in a few days... and so must PropertyWikia, because Alexa showed it was sending their site traffic into a tailspin (much to our satisfaction). But the scammer retaliated: on Sept 17th, so-called Affiliate Manager 'Julian Vincent' openly declared to PW affiliates in a group Skype session...
"...the company is being represented in court by solicitors in the City of London... to commence proceedings to shut down scam.com... The company already succeeded in getting hosting records secured from the host server of scam.com – i.e. RACKO under subpoena and knows each person’s details who has contributed to defamation on scam.com."
And a couple of days later, the thread duly disappeared, leading most to conclude that said proceedings had been successful. Oddly though (but thankfully), another PropertyWikia thread was started up within 24 hours and the debate continued as if nothing had happened.
The legal action was, of course, a fairy story.
Fast-forward to 26th November, and a number of owners of whistle blowing forums, including this one, received an email from PropertyWikia's... cough, cough... ‘Legal Department’ headed ‘Notice to Cease and Desist Internet Defamation (UK Defamation Act 1996)’. I received one such email, myself.
They said they would be taking legal action against us for the “series of unwarranted defamatory attacks”, complaining that our “baseless accusations have damaged and adversely affected business.” [which they had, actually]... and “they depict the company as engaging fraudulent activity that violates civil and criminal law... blah, blah, blah”.
They demanded that within 7 days we “immediately remove all defamatory and disparaging remarks” or risk legal action. (The full, laughable text is here: http://www.realscam.com/f12/property...html#post13004).
A couple of forum owners swallowed this steaming heap of bullcrap and crumbled. Yes, you guessed, one of them was the jelly-for-a-spinal-column Scam.com... so the second PropertyWikia thread was duly deleted.
But, again, another PropertyWikia thread... the third... sprang up on Scam.com within 24 hours. Weird; why did the censoring never stick?
Anyway... it emerged some months later, when the scammer behind PropertyWikia had done a runner with everyone's money... unlike Banners Broker, they didn't pay out so much as a thin dime... that his name is Timothy Koncar.
Bear with me, folks, here's where I connect some dots...
So I composed the aforementioned Banners Broker post (#567), but in preview found that the PW scammers name displayed as "Timothy ******". WTF? How can that name possibly be a 'naughty word' worthy of the attention of the site's censoring script that swaps letters for asterisks, I thought.
I did a bit of searching on Scam.com and as luck would have it, turned up a post from way back in 2006 with this significant sentence in it:
"This is definately Tim (deleted by admin - don't post his name) aka Tim ****** aka Tim Green..."
[http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=226961&postcount=6]
And then I turned up an even older post from 2004 with this:
"The other person effected and cheated are (a) Mr Naveen Mann (naveenmann@hotmail.com) (b) Tim (deleted by admin - don't post his name)"
[http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=8154&postcount=7]
Highly significant is that the first of these shows it was "Last edited by admin : 01-10-2007 at 06:35 AM", whilst the second shows it was "Last edited by admin : 01-10-2007 at 05:54 AM".
Evidently, something in January 2007 caused Admin to manually censor these two disparate, aged posts within 40 minutes of each other. Lemme guess: couldn't have been a threatening email, could it? Or, heaven forbid, the greasing of a greasy palm?
So how, then, did I give the censoring script the slip when I posted in the BB thread the other week? Well, Koncar is a Slavic surname, so I used the proper accented 'č' instead of 'c'. The brainboxes at Scam.com hadn't thought of writing that little dodge into the script. No, you mustn't titter.
Anyway, they probably reviewed the BB thread because it was going ballistic... spotted that offending sentence with he-that-must-not-be-named's name in it (as quoted, up top)... realised I'd got in under the radar... pulled the post... checked all my other posts... which led them to the PropertyWickia thread I was all over... spotted my post in there where I said...
"The owner of this forum, here, has taken down two PropertyWikia threads already. Due to the fact that he first bought the bogus complaint, above, from the bogus Brian Thomas, hook line and sinker... and then capitulated with a bogus threat of a 'Cease and Desist' lawsuit from the bogus 'Legal Department'....which likely prompted them to throw teddy out of the pram and pull the whole thread... and slap my wrists with a posting ban.
I ask you: what kind of scambusting site owner gets scammed by the same scammers... not once, but twice?"
There you have it, then, folks... proof that George Dranichak does indeed capitulate under threat from, if not collude with, the enemy.
Douchebag!
Last edited by Julie Diligent; 09-22-2012 at 12:30 AM.
This might be of some help to you, it is the link that P2P posted.
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So, for posting Martin Wild's information I'm supposedly being threatened with legal action --what law/civil offence I'm breaking; I don't know.
This was already public information -- so, not exactly data protection act, and it's all true so not exactly libel!
"Supposedly" being the operative word
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