Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Whoops! Banners Broker seem to be a little bit behind with there accounts:

BB ACCOUNT INFO.jpg

and the address happens to be..AN ACCOUNTANT!


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Harrison, I don't wish to carp...........but whatever happened to the office in Salford Quays, Manchester? The one upon which BB (or was it SP?) took out a 10 year lease which some affiliates shouted was "proof that they are in it for the long term"?

Does anyone know?

Getting the address of these people / organisations pinned down is like trying to nail a jelly to the wall.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Whoops! Banners Broker seem to be a little bit behind with there accounts:

BB ACCOUNT INFO.jpg

and the address happens to be..AN ACCOUNTANT!


TARA TALKS: BREAKING NEWS

BB is slowly shutting down. Stellar Point is no longer supporting them in Canada where all of BB's support staff was. They are no longer promoting BB, at least in Canada so how long can Chris last with no staff?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Harrison, I don't wish to carp...........but whatever happened to the office in Salford Quays, Manchester? The one upon which BB (or was it SP?) took out a 10 year lease which some affiliates shouted was "proof that they are in it for the long term"?

Does anyone know?

Getting the address of these people / organisations pinned down is like trying to nail a jelly to the wall.

Hi Della..no idea? Meetings are still going on there and people are saying sporradically that they are answering the phone so your guess is as good as mine. They certainly do seem to have alot of addresses in England through don't they? Isle of Man, Baker Street, Manchester, Leamington Spa? And they are listed under Banners Broker International, Banners Broker UK LTD?
Oh, what a tangled web we weave...

CHURCH STREET INFO.JPG

Banners Brokers Headquarters in Church Street and Chris's personal Condo really does seem to have some great nightlife...

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

how long can Chris last with no staff?

What does a HYIP ponzi fraud do that would require "staff" other than as window dressing ??

Originally Posted by littleroundman

What does a HYIP ponzi fraud do that would require "staff" other than as window dressing ??

Meanwhile over on mmg, some genius concluded that BB is a ponzi because it is no longer paying. He is now in a similar scheme that is paying so he concludes it is not a ponzi. Am I really in the same species as these f**kwits.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

What does a HYIP ponzi fraud do that would require "staff" other than as window dressing ??

In BB's case Chris needs some help colouring panels. . .

BB also needs the revenue that support brings in: $7.00 a question

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

In BB's case Chris needs some help colouring panels. . .

Here ya go, Chris,

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Whoops! Banners Broker seem to be a little bit behind with there accounts:

BB ACCOUNT INFO.jpg

and the address happens to be..AN ACCOUNTANT!


TARA TALKS: BREAKING NEWS

It's common practice to use your accountant's address when registering a limited company in the UK, and that particular company, BannersBroker UK Limited, actually belongs to the previous BBUK head crook, Iain Driscoll and is registered in his wife's name. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Smith, Dixit or Hooker.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

CHURCH STREET INFO.JPG

Banners Brokers Headquarters in Church Street and Chris's personal Condo really does seem to have some great nightlife...

The address in Church St is a UPS Store/mailbox, and its link to the myriad of Smith/Dixit "companies" has been documented here ad nauseum.

Basic research (e.g, reading some of the posts in this thread) is a wonderful thing....

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Here ya go, Chris,

Great, finally he's getting some real help! Panels will move a lot faster with these colours.

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

Great, finally he's getting some real help! Panels will move a lot faster with these colours.

Lucky Chris...now what colours get affiliates to deal with:

Does anyone know if they had their weekly "webinar" today? I haven't seen anything anywhere. Not that I suppose there is much to say apart from:-

"We're catching up with payments!"

"We've got a new payment processor on board but we can't say who it is yet"

"Remember, Banners Broker is a real business, not a passive programme."

"All businesses have problems from time to time, and BB is no different. We are working 24/7 to solve them!"

"We need to keep positive, people; and don't give in to the negative bloggers!"

Etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam

Of course, Chris could be too busy colouring in the panels with his new crayons.

Could write it for him.

Sorry we are little late.
We are very excited about new site createmybanner.
Payout problems. be patient.
moving away from being passive.
lots of nice comments coming in.
blah, cough,
We are here for the long run.
We'll talk to you soon.

Originally Posted by Theseus

It's common practice to use your accountant's address when registering a limited company in the UK, and that particular company, BannersBroker UK Limited, actually belongs to the previous BBUK head crook, Iain Driscoll and is registered in his wife's name. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Smith, Dixit or Hooker.



The address in Church St is a UPS Store/mailbox, and its link to the myriad of Smith/Dixit "companies" has been documented here ad nauseum.

Basic research (e.g, reading some of the posts in this thread) is a wonderful thing....

Many thanks for enlightening me Thesus. I was not aware that BannersBrokerUK LTD belongs to Iain Driscoll. I stand corrected.
Iain Driscolls accounts are overdue then

As for Church Street, I still believe my information is correct and have no reason to doubt my source. Please feel free to prove me wrong...

Hard to keep track of everything Harrison. 12,000 posts on here now. and reams of research.
Similarly over on bbps page someone has brought up that dsnr media is working with bb. It was brought up months ago, but dont think it was followed up.
Now someone has posted dsnrmg
They have an even worse rating on that site than BB has!! BBSCAM
So with that reputation probably wont dump bb as easily as clicksor did.

MMG have reported a webinar today but nothing yet on Iceland page? And they have no notes posted either...

Yes on Iceland page now. Normal. chris speaking without saying anything. 500 questions . . . but he didnt answer any!!

Here we go:-

BB Friday Q&A Webinar August 2, 2013

Chris Smith speaking:

Ok, we have it working. Sorry, GotoMeeting updated and something wasn't working right. I apologize.

On the screen you do see the Create My Banners website. This is LIVE since last week. We are accepting registrations for it. This is non related to BB, so you need to create a separate account. Everyone has asked what they can do to help BB, this is an inexpensive tool, so you can help by registering for Create My Banners. We store your banners, so you cvan use on other sites. The fee is $25/yr or $3/month.

We are coming up with other sites to help your business, as well.

One update for India: India is separate in terms of how business is operated. The rules and corporate structure is different. We tried having StellarPoint India do the support for India and faciliate payouts. We have now ended that relationsihp for India only. BB will now be handling payouts for India. STarting today, the StellarPoint office will no longer be used for India. Please use BB.

Update for payment solution. As we said, these things take time. On the postivie side, it is looking good for what we can accomplish.

We made an announcement in Niagara. First will be people who have seen no money at all. Those who have seen 10, 20 times their money will be farther down the list. For those people, yes you well deserve your payout and worked hard for it, and we appreciate everyone who is with us. Those who have not yet received anything on the publishing side yet will be first. then we will go by date order.

We have reduced the withdrawal to $250/wk or $1,000/mo. This is temporary. We are coming out with BB 3.0, with a new 2013 style of webiste and application. We will be using the new technology to sustain the amount of traffic that we have. We will be getting this new system in place moving away from passive earning.

Questions:

BB 3.0 and new payout processor, will it be before Christmas? We will not go into 2014 in this condition, so this should be early Fall, definitely not end of the year.

Trouble accessing the website? The site is optimized for Firefox. Other browsers will work, but IE does have problems. Please try using Firefox.

BB manual update with BB 3.0? Yes most things will be new and a complete rebuild, so there will be new tutorials, new manual and new webinars as guides for the next version.

There are good comments in the scroll. There are also negative comments, but alot of people are being supportive of BB and will continue to be here and do what is asked of them to be part of BB. We have been here for almost 3 years, and we will get through what we're doing on our end and move forward into the next phase of BB!!

One last thing, last couple of days there were problems logging in. there has been no change. The speed of the site is now good, but we implemented server-side cache. (Chris explained this - please see replay) On our end we can clear the server-side cache - I can do this from my iPhone. Please communicate with your leaders and I will clear the server-side cache, if needed. Version 3.0 will take care of all these issues.

That's all for today. There are 500 questions, alot repeated, alot about payouts. Hold tight. It's coming. If you haven't been paid yet, you will be getting something.

BB 3.0 is just around the corner, stick with us. And thank you for being here today.

(end of webinar)
(summary notes by Linda Lane, and not an official BB transcript) (please see replay for more info)

Just a few observations:-

1. Why is India different? Something to do with that court case maybe?

2. Glad to see Chris has got his magic phone up and working again! Perhaps techie types could explain what "server side cache" is?

3. How long can peoples' patience last??

4. 500 questions but not 500 answers..........same old p*ss in different shaped bottles, in fact..........

material adj. 1) relevant and significant in a lawsuit, as in "material evidence" as distinguished from totally irrelevant or of such minor importance that the court will either ignore it, rule it immaterial if objected to, or not allow lengthy testimony upon such a matter.

Perhaps one of any remaining Banners Broker apologists would like to remind us of any "material" difference between Banners Broker from December 2012 and a collapsed HYIP ponzi fraud.

Despite thousands of forum posts and an interminable number of Chris Smith "think positive" webinars, what has ACTUALLY changed between Christmas 2012 when payments virtually stopped and today ??

WORDS have changed, VERSIONS have changed, EXPLANATIONS, EXCUSES and PROMISES have changed

what else has changed ??

Not PAYMENTS, that's for sure,

Other than the fact there are less payments to members being made today than there were back then, only the WORDING has changed.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Does anyone know if they had their weekly "webinar" today? I haven't seen anything anywhere. Not that I suppose there is much to say apart from:-

"We're catching up with payments!"

"We've got a new payment processor on board but we can't say who it is yet"

"Remember, Banners Broker is a real business, not a passive programme."

"All businesses have problems from time to time, and BB is no different. We are working 24/7 to solve them!"

"We need to keep positive, people; and don't give in to the negative bloggers!"

Etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam

Of course, Chris could be too busy colouring in the panels with his new crayons.

Somehow I think webinars are not held - it's all illusion...it's even questionable if this is Chris...it would be just one more fraud in the world of scams

Does anyone remember the BB Dream Team ?? Introduced with great fanfare.
Where are they now? Still commited and loyal to bb?
err. NO.

Kul Josun ?
Left / fired under a cloud. On to new scams. KulKlub among others.

Ian Driscoll ?
Left/ fired under a cloud. On to new scams. Flexcom among others.

Jens Holvoet ?
Disenchanted with BB. Banned from bb uk board, moved on to flexcom and slimming drinks.
(Last post on mmg about bb,) "One day people will finally understand that the "milk" has dried out."

Mary Bosveld ?
Still pushing BB. But has hedged her bets, pushing also revads network. Clickpaid among others.

Shane Budge ?
addwallet, banksontraffic, neucopia and a dozen others.


So much for the loyal " BB DREAM TEAM"

Originally Posted by Mundorf

Somehow I think webinars are not held - it's all illusion...it's even questionable if this is Chris...it would be just one more fraud in the world of scams

ANYONE who believes ANYTHING coming out of a HYIP ponzi like Banners Broker is plain crazy.

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Kul Josun ?
Left / fired under a cloud. On to new scams. KulKlub among others.

Was he ???

Try and think of one other business on the planet which would have allowed an employee to walk away with $4 million and not done a thing about recovering the money or prosecuting the thief.

Then look back over the history of HYIP ponzi frauds and see how many of them explained away a slow down in payments by blaming "Russian mafia" or "hackers" or "a corrupt programmer" or "payment processor problems" or, or.......................................

IOW, yet another reason to refuse to believe ANYTHING that comes out of a HYIP ponzi fraud and/or fraudster.

well he either left or he was fired. Left/fired. Of course. Just keeping it short. Could have written a complete blog on each of them.
Vacancies now open for new Dream Team.