Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Newto

BB Q&A Webinar

Chris Smith speaking:

Thanks for joining us today. First the updates.

BB's 3-year anniversary coming up in October with the Tesla Promo Panel contest. We are happy to still be here after 3 years. We are currently experienced payout challenges. We have lost partners and forged new partners.

T)

Those are probably not the only forgeries he's guilty of...!

Re Friday webinar, old Spreadsheets Smith said:-

"Next Payday - we were hoping to get Payza out last weekend. we cannot send it out if it's not accurate. I am very confident that if it's not today, then it will this weekend. I will make it a point to see that it goes out. STP will be shortly after that. We want to keep people satisfied. We are going in a point system order, predominantly by date, so everyone will not get a payment. However, everyone will get paid so please be patient.!

Eh?

So not everyone will not get a payment but everyone will get paid?

Riiight....Well, makes about as much sense as anything else they've done!

And did you notice how anxious they are to show they are not an investment programme? Wonder who's been snapping at their heels, eh?

Several times now Chris has mentioned that BB India is different. Does anyone know why he thinks this? My bet is so that when the court case goes badly in Goa he can dismiss it as "not related to BB".

Meanwhile over at MMG the low life scumballs are bemoaning the fact that only people who haven't got their initial investment back can go to a small claims court. "wahhh, I can't get any more of other people's money, Wahhh". Some people really deserve a slap with a rotton fish.

It seems that Mr (world renowned public speaker) Hooker has also disassociated himself from BB/SP on his linkedin page. On that note, while doing a little research on linkedin, it would seem that BB /SP indeed do have some more staff, all within the last few months, with impressive sounding titles in HR, admin and IT ! Recent experience includes, working for a couple of months at a fast food pita restaurant. Another lists recent experience as a cashier at a hardware store for a few months. I'm choosing not to put up the links, they mostly look like kids to me who may think that they are on to some sort of career path, they can be easily found for anyone who wants to look. Pathetic way to treat / use young people starting out who may not be worldly!

Regarding the Friday sermon from Chris, Paul McCarthy, what ever happened to the Ad pub combo you so unconvincingly tried to defend to Joe Duffy as the foundation of BB being a legitimate business? Seems Chris never speaks about any of that old stuff anymore. Looks like we weren't the only ones you failed to convince!

@ Ken Roklin. Have you seen the car park at Carlow Court? Would it hold 100 cars? Am I reading correctly, you say you know people who work there??

Originally Posted by Brenda

It seems that Mr (world renowned public speaker) Hooker has also disassociated himself from BB/SP on his linkedin page.

Chris did say a couple of weeks a go that they have got rid of people who weren't producing. I can only imagine Dave (world renowned public speaker) Hooker is one of them.

Though I wouldn't mind betting he left with a nice big chunk of Banners Broker victims cash.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Chris did say a couple of weeks a go that they have got rid of people who weren't producing. I can only imagine Dave (world renowned public speaker) Hooker is one of them.

Though I wouldn't mind betting he left with a nice big chunk of Banners Broker victims cash.

He was one of the first scumbags that banned many of us from his Utube channel for claiming this was a scam. These wh88es ban the truth and then jump ship to the next scam like they had no knowledge.

The recent G8 summit actually made some financial decisions that mean something...I'm not going to copy and paste all of it but this bit is relevant to us. I think it will come into force after BB has long gone but it will help with future schemes I hope:

Finally, the G8 made a stab at stopping the massive tide of crime which flows from the fact that, at present, it’s possible to hide the identity of the people who really own companies. This may sound a minor thing but it’s not.

If the police and tax authorities can’t track down the real owners of companies involved in terrorism, weapons and drug smuggling, fraud, tax evasion and other criminal activities, then there is little deterrent to the criminals involved. Investors, too, need to know with whom they may be getting financially into bed.


Campaigners are pleased that the G8 acknowledged the need for countries to create national registers of who really owns companies.


Read more: COMMENT: G8 decisions could make life very hard for tax dodging companies | This is Money

Originally Posted by Brenda

It seems that Mr (world renowned public speaker) Hooker has also disassociated himself from BB/SP on his linkedin page. On that note, while doing a little research on linkedin, it would seem that BB /SP indeed do have some more staff, all within the last few months, with impressive sounding titles in HR, admin and IT ! Recent experience includes, working for a couple of months at a fast food pita restaurant. Another lists recent experience as a cashier at a hardware store for a few months. I'm choosing not to put up the links, they mostly look like kids to me who may think that they are on to some sort of career path, they can be easily found for anyone who wants to look. Pathetic way to treat / use young people starting out who may not be worldly!

Regarding the Friday sermon from Chris, Paul McCarthy, what ever happened to the Ad pub combo you so unconvincingly tried to defend to Joe Duffy as the foundation of BB being a legitimate business? Seems Chris never speaks about any of that old stuff anymore. Looks like we weren't the only ones you failed to convince!

@ Ken Roklin. Have you seen the car park at Carlow Court? Would it hold 100 cars? Am I reading correctly, you say you know people who work there??

I didn't count the number of parking spaces but there is plenty of parking all around the building, 50+ easily. The building is a combo office/warehouse in an industrial are of Whitby. And yes, I know people who work there (I didn't say they were friends), however, they are proud to be working there and believe in whatever Stellar Point is doing. With regards to BB specifically they don't say anything - I am sure they have been told that if BB comes up in any discussions they have with anybody that if any negative comments are traced back to them they are history. When I see one of them at my local pub and knock BB they become very defensive and change the subject.

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

I didn't count the number of parking spaces but there is plenty of parking all around the building, 50+ easily. The building is a combo office/warehouse in an industrial are of Whitby. And yes, I know people who work there (I didn't say they were friends), however, they are proud to be working there and believe in whatever Stellar Point is doing. With regards to BB specifically they don't say anything - I am sure they have been told that if BB comes up in any discussions they have with anybody that if any negative comments are traced back to them they are history. When I see one of them at my local pub and knock BB they become very defensive and change the subject.

Thanks Ken,

At the risk though, of sounding pedantic, I had pics of Carlow Court. They were taken personally by someone I know to have driven by the address. It certainly appeared to me from those pics, that there was no way that there was space at that address for more than a handful of cars, given that firstly, they are not the only business there and secondly there is a sort of shared access to the business to the side of No 5 also using the same access. It was indeed on this photo that I knew BB were lying about staffing and staff numbers. Having google mapped it, it does still appear to me that there is very little parking there, certainly not for anything like 50 cars or even much less imo?

Regarding the person known to you being 'proud to work there and believing in whatever Stellar Point is doing' yet afraid of negative comments being traced back at the same time, does not make for a happy work environment in my books, just saying it sounds odd to me. Ken, one of the 'NEW' staff members couldn't even spell Stellar Point correctly on their linkedin page!

BB's website is carrying a 'WONGA' advert. The company that lend you money at about 2500%...thats a legit way to steal money of people lol
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Another high quality ad on their site. In no way scammy and of course being on Banners Brokers own website will earn millions of dollars per month.

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Originally Posted by Brenda

Thanks Ken,

At the risk though, of sounding pedantic, I had pics of Carlow Court. They were taken personally by someone I know to have driven by the address. It certainly appeared to me from those pics, that there was no way that there was space at that address for more than a handful of cars, given that firstly, they are not the only business there and secondly there is a sort of shared access to the business to the side of No 5 also using the same access. It was indeed on this photo that I knew BB were lying about staffing and staff numbers. Having google mapped it, it does still appear to me that there is very little parking there, certainly not for anything like 50 cars or even much less imo?

Regarding the person known to you being 'proud to work there and believing in whatever Stellar Point is doing' yet afraid of negative comments being traced back at the same time, does not make for a happy work environment in my books, just saying it sounds odd to me. Ken, one of the 'NEW' staff members couldn't even spell Stellar Point correctly on their linkedin page!

When you drive by you see only parking on the one side. There is parking around both sides and behind the building. I am pretty sure that a lot of staff read the negative comments but are happy to collect a paycheck. Unemployment is not fun so when you have a place of employment, even though the atmosphere isn't the greatest, you hang on to your job as long as possible.

Not sure if everyone has seen this on Finch's page from someone called Goldeneye

For some time now, Raj Dixit has been conspicuous by his absence from all things ‘BB’.

Within the last two weeks all BB staff at their Salford Quays offices in the UK have had their employment terminated.(What was it HOOKER said in February this year about a 10 year lease???)

Their Canadian Lady manager has been recalled and subsequently dismissed, she too is now touting Adhitprofits.
At least 95 of the 100 claimed staff at the Stellar Point HQ in Canada have also had their employment terminated leaving just FIVE to handle the accounts of over 300,000 ‘affiliates’.

Several ‘ICs’ (Cyprus, Iceland and Spain) have already ‘jumped ship’ without telling the affiliates they are supposed to be supporting, these ‘gentlemen’ (term being used very loosely), are also now actively promoting Adhitsprofits.

Could it be that Adhitsprofits is Mr. Dixit’s ‘new vehicle’?, worse still, is it the new ‘BB’? or is this old ‘spook’ just being cynical?, You decide!

Certainly throws up some interesting questions about the staff in Canada if this is true. There may be spaces to park, just no people to use them.

Its hard to know where these things come from, but it would be more believable to me if he had said "most of the staff of stellar point have been let go".
I really do not believe that there was ever 95 or 100 staff there, or anything approaching that number.
So, untill I had confirmation of the claims I would take it with a pinch of salt. Having said that I would not be surprised with the Salford quays claim, after all it does not appear to have any purpose.
And the pushing of new scams by the scameratti is well known.

With all the frustrated "customers" I am looking forward to BB tour in july.

Anybody want to pay tax on virtual money?


http://www.icontact-archive.com/c4PNVL0-z66i_lyV7FIG9bUsgCTEv7Qh?w=1

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Reminds me of the old days of talking tax TalkingBS.

Them "We can't talk about tax, we advise you to talk to your accountant"

Me "I am an accountant, perhaps I csn answer questions or help others on tax issues, particularly as most people don't register or treat this as a business"

Them "ssshh stop advising"

Me "but......"

Them " you're barred"

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Anybody want to pay tax on virtual money?
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That strikes me as a very funny rhetorical question. Great snigger before switching off computer and getting into bed. Thanks Joe.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Reminds me of the old days of talking tax TalkingBS.

Them "We can't talk about tax, we advise you to talk to your accountant"

Me "I am an accountant, perhaps I csn answer questions or help others on tax issues, particularly as most people don't register or treat this as a business"

Them "ssshh stop advising"

Me "but......"

Them " you're barred"

Or my conversations:-
Me- "if BB is a legit business then tax is payable on ALL profits- even undrawn ones."
Friend- "I've spoken to people like me in BB and we aren't paying tax, because we don't have to"
It seems that once blinded by BB BS they continue on being blinded. Even prefering tax advice from Cabbies over a chartered accountant.

Tax always was the one provable chink in the BB scheme- if it had been a real business, operating as they say then the fact is that the tax payable would always be as much as the money drawn. I've always tried to use this as a reason not to get into BB, for those too stupid to see, unfortunately most of them are also too stupid to take free tax advice.

Originally Posted by Dreamstealer

Or my conversations:-
Me- "if BB is a legit business then tax is payable on ALL profits- even undrawn ones."
Friend- "I've spoken to people like me in BB and we aren't paying tax, because we don't have to"
It seems that once blinded by BB BS they continue on being blinded. Even prefering tax advice from Cabbies over a chartered accountant.

Tax always was the one provable chink in the BB scheme- if it had been a real business, operating as they say then the fact is that the tax payable would always be as much as the money drawn. I've always tried to use this as a reason not to get into BB, for those too stupid to see, unfortunately most of them are also too stupid to take free tax advice.

Yes I often had the same conversation.

Favourite reply was

them - "there is no point in paying tax as we may not get the money out"

Me - "Why wouldn't you get the money out"

Them - "ummmmm.........."

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Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Yes I often had the same conversation.

Favourite reply was

them - "there is no point in paying tax as we may not get the money out"

Me - "Why wouldn't you get the money out"

Them - "ummmmm.........."

Yes, an acquaintance of mine who foolishly joined (in January this year, thick or what?) absolutely insisted that you didn't have to pay tax on your e-wallet balance "because you haven't drawn on it yet".

He also said "you can't pay tax on it because it doesn't exist yet"

Oh, the irony.........

Still was insisting that BB was a real company. I've given over arguing with him now, let him get on with it!

I did suggest that, if he wanted a bit of a thrill, bit of a gamble, he could just give the money to me, and I might or might not give it him back in six months time! Just like Banners!

Funnily enough, at this point, he said I was taking the p*ss......