Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by ribshaw

I would say in fairness it is hard in some cases to dig up real dirt. I had done a little poking on David Wood and Dave Sharpe the guys who appear to be behind Empower Network which is currently running. For instance are their stories about being homeless real? Have they had any legal troubles? Do they really live in the mansion where they shot the video? Even if some of this stuff fails to check out, there are plenty of "gurus" that have been caught in a web of lies and not many people seem to care. (If I were truly thinking about plunking down $5000 to invest with them I would hire a private investigator to do some real digging). But how many people are going to do that on a review site with money out of their own pocket to protect folks who would probably chastise them anyway?

With all the gushing reviews I would think the "Daves" are able to walk on water. Then you look at the promo and think hey they only want $25 for all this good stuff, and then the hook is set. Unless someone is naturally skeptical and asks good questions, happens upon the right information, or a central repository of the actors misdeeds then what to do? Most people I suspect would quit looking after three or four sites.

Ones again, personally I have nothing against HYIPs. We are free people with free will OK. But F*&^&%@#s from BB told me Im going to invest in on-line advertising. As we know in "real" HYIP You just "invest" 100 dollars and after a week You withdraw ie 110 dollars. With BB it took me almost a year to withdraw my principal that`s why I believed its "legitimate" business but it looks like its not even legitimate HYIP as said before...

And there is thousands people like myself... but this time I woke up on time and want to help to save few souls if possible...

Was there any reason/excuse why Niagara convention has been cancelled ?

Did Hypnotist Cyrus refuse to share the venue ?

If anybody has an EBAY account perhaps you could check this out?

'...now theres a funny thing, there is a buyer on ebay called unno-unno, he buys stuff from the same seller all the time and in his feedback comments he writes refer www.bannersbrokers.com, the seller and the buyer are both listed as being in latvia, yet the buyer always pays extortionate postage rates for things like cable stripping machines, is there some sort of money laundering going on here ? the sellers ebay ID is viesulis11, take a look...'

There is only one reason why the Niagara event was cancelled: No-one has any money to go because BB is not paying them. People don't have enough "extra" money to fork out for this event. Many now are waking up to know it would be a waste of time and money because they will just be stroked with more promises that will never materialize.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

If anybody has an EBAY account perhaps you could check this out?

'...now theres a funny thing, there is a buyer on ebay called unno-unno, he buys stuff from the same seller all the time and in his feedback comments he writes refer www.bannersbrokers.com, the seller and the buyer are both listed as being in latvia, yet the buyer always pays extortionate postage rates for things like cable stripping machines, is there some sort of money laundering going on here ? the sellers ebay ID is viesulis11, take a look...'

Yes. Buys stuff from himself also. Something odd going on there. He has a listing for BB also, someone has bid 2cents. He mentions that "BB Online Business requires an investment". I didnt think Ebay allowed such dodgy listings.

What is the spin they are trying for cancelling Niagara, or are they even bothering?

Originally Posted by EagleOne

There is only one reason why the Niagara event was cancelled: No-one has any money to go because BB is not paying them. People don't have enough "extra" money to fork out for this event. Many now are waking up to know it would be a waste of time and money because they will just be stroked with more promises that will never materialize.

Is it their "official" version ? :)

Originally Posted by HARRISON

If anybody has an EBAY account perhaps you could check this out?

'...now theres a funny thing, there is a buyer on ebay called unno-unno, he buys stuff from the same seller all the time and in his feedback comments he writes refer www.bannersbrokers.com, the seller and the buyer are both listed as being in latvia, yet the buyer always pays extortionate postage rates for things like cable stripping machines, is there some sort of money laundering going on here ? the sellers ebay ID is viesulis11, take a look...'

I'd say it's just a poor attempt at Ebay fee avoidance....

Originally Posted by noname999

What is the spin they are trying for cancelling Niagara, or are they even bothering?

It'll be our fault

Originally Posted by marsh56

Anyone who has already bought tickets and does come to Canada will be entertained.

This is hilarious!!! Guess they be sending us over to Cyprus or whatsisname...

Originally Posted by HARRISON

If anybody has an EBAY account perhaps you could check this out?

'...now theres a funny thing, there is a buyer on ebay called unno-unno, he buys stuff from the same seller all the time and in his feedback comments he writes refer www.bannersbrokers.com, the seller and the buyer are both listed as being in latvia, yet the buyer always pays extortionate postage rates for things like cable stripping machines, is there some sort of money laundering going on here ? the sellers ebay ID is viesulis11, take a look...'

$.02 will put you over the top for your own BB business Harrison, and you can purchase a Cable Stripper to mine copper from old toaster cords to pay for all your ad packs.

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Whats not to like.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

If anybody has an EBAY account perhaps you could check this out?

'...now theres a funny thing, there is a buyer on ebay called unno-unno, he buys stuff from the same seller all the time and in his feedback comments he writes refer www.bannersbrokers.com, the seller and the buyer are both listed as being in latvia, yet the buyer always pays extortionate postage rates for things like cable stripping machines, is there some sort of money laundering going on here ? the sellers ebay ID is viesulis11, take a look...'

Just reported to ebay as MLM
As always at ebay was not an easy thing but found it... I hope I saved even one soul...

Originally Posted by marsh56

Posted from the leader's call, looks like they are listening to the input...
A few summarized points from this mornings leaders call :
Chris Speaking-


Anyone who has already bought tickets and does come to Canada will be entertained.

Let me guess... Chris will show his ultra fast panels movement and his made of platinum BB`s ring + fake rolex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=RI1UAeff-p8
can someone post this video, this poor chump posted this in jan, mentions mastercard, double your money etc
kiwi

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Joseph Goebbels Would give him full time well paid job... and a gold pimp`s ring of course.

Latest news from BB:
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From bannersbroker 2013-05-02 16:35:08

Due to the various compliance issues that we have been addressing there has been a need to review our entire Policies and Procedures.
You will thoroughly enjoy the new format as it is now much easier to locate and identify specific content relative to your enquiry.
The first major change is the very lengthy and in-depth index page where every subject has been listed. Simply click on the subject and it will take you immediately to that section of the document. To return to the main index page again simply click on the back to the top link and you can start searching again.
These Policies and Procedures will be subject to change from time to time, and when this happens a message will be placed on the dashboard for your information.
Thank You.
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So, You took a loan in a bank right and instead of paying 20% interests a year You can expect that Bank can change the rate "from time to time"
Im sure every one will go for this loan....

Just wonder why do they not announce?: Want money? You must bring 1000 dollars to withdraw 100 dollars, or bring 10 new members, nice and clear.

So I dug up and found nice NEW Policy under section:
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Withdrawal Policy:
d) Processing time is 90 days and funds must be available in the E-Wallet at the time of each request.
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It has been 15 days for "standard victim" and 7 days for "premium victim" before.
In reality (my case) No less than 25 days.
I guess next step would be 540 days according to their calculations. (6x15=90, 6x90=540days)

Nice move to keep alive this zombie for another weeks... Well done.

What a degenerates!

Originally Posted by ribshaw

I too am amazed that as many people fall for the things that they do, and many seemingly fall for the same thing over and over again. For instance on the Profitable Sunrise Facebook page it is filled with spam for other programs. Intuitively I would think that people that just got screwed would be the last people in the world to want to part with their money, but I am guessing the reverse is true.

I don't think this goes for every member but it might well cover most of them.

1. Look at the demographic. they seem to be mostly older people or pensioners who are not computer savvy. They are not necessarily stupid they just dont have specific education about Information Technology or the Advertising business. They get most of their news from TV or popular press which tout the internet as the biggest thing since sliced bread. They are aware of the huge growth rates of IT related business and think BB is like this.
2. Another aspect is the "trust me" style of recruiting using friends and family. they don't realise that this is the main vector for recruiting and believe they are a tiny aspect of a big business whereas ALL they money is coming from them and their downlines.
3. Back to demographics . What Altemyer ( reference below but do the quiz on page 11 before you read anything about this book as you want to find out wher you sit before you read about it) calls Right Wing Authoritarians . He explains how there are RWA "followers" and "leaders".

It does not mean you are a nazi if you are RWA but it does mean you might have a tendency to get caught up in all that sort of stuff if the society is like that.
So dont bother to tell me about Godwins Law. RWA is broader than naziism. He goes into the "Tea Party" movement in the US. Indeed many groups legal and dubious such as Police, Army, football hooligans can have RWA mindsets. Also, other dubious groups might not have them e.g. anarchists, punk rockers ~ although how one gets an organisation of anarchists I don't know :)

I don't think you would find punk rockers at a BB recruitment but you won't find uniform police either ~ well not till it collapses :)

Anyway Altemeyer also makes a comparison of RWA with fundamentalist religions.
The book is free and you can find it here.

The Authoritarians
Remember ~ do the quiz on page 11 first but not because I told you to do it now!

Originally Posted by marsh56

Posted from the leader's call, looks like they are listening to the input...
A few summarized points from this mornings leaders call :
Chris Speaking-

#1-Niagra convention has been cancelled.

So much for "convention/ World Tour/ ten year lease is proof of our longevity and determination to be in this for the next twenty years"

Hooker who took the "ten year lease" ( well he claimed to but didnt put a copy anywhere) does not even mention being in BB.

Anyone who has already bought tickets and does come to Canada will be entertained.

By the RCMP? :)

#3-We do have a new processor that we are working on, however these things take time to implement . The previous bb card took 10 months to implement . We do not want the new processor to be a "here today gone tommorrow" thing. We want a permanent solution.

We are NOT going to mention the new processor as the last thing we want is for bloggers to get a hold of this information and start making negative comments.

LOL @ "permanent"
They are inept at even running a scam! Ten months to get a bank to set up a payment process. LOL!
And they claim that "negative comments" entirely destroyed their electronic payment processor and genius foolproof mathematics algorithm ?
Wonder what the negative comments will do in court? :)

#4- The trafic pack rule: We want our program to be an Affiliate based program , thus the new trafic pack rule is to make it look les attractive. Our original goal was for our program to be an affiliate based program and NOT a passive income program.

LOL changing deckchairs on the Titanic with a view of squeezing the last drop of money out of the faithful dupes.

Originally Posted by NikSam

Is it their "official" version ? :)

No, the official version is we're afraid we will get the crap beat out of us from angry members who haven't gotten paid. It wouldn't look good to have twice as many security people as members at the event. So we had to cancel the event for everyone's safety.

Any news of the trial in India? Seems that went awfully quiet all of a sudden.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

No, the official version is we're afraid we will get the crap beat out of us from angry members who haven't gotten paid. It wouldn't look good to have twice as many security people as members at the event. So we had to cancel the event for everyone's safety.

There comes a time in the life of a failed HYIP ponzi fraud when even the most cocksure HYIP ponzi admin or pimp just KNOWS if he/she announces in advance that he/she is going to be seen at public meeting that the constabulary will make up most of the front row.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Any news of the trial in India? Seems that went awfully quiet all of a sudden.

I was trying to establish that just the other day - the case is still listed on the Goa Courts website, but its just the same status as two months ago.
Presumably Ana reported to the investigator in early March as she was instructed to, and the investigation is ongoing. No court date listed that I can see...

Originally Posted by Tomas

Joseph Goebbels Would give him full time well paid job... and a gold pimp`s ring of course.

Latest news from BB:
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Just wonder why do they not announce?: Want money? You must bring 1000 dollars to withdraw 100 dollars, or bring 10 new members, nice and clear.

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Don't say twice.Now there is only positive balance needed.I would not be surprised if the knew condition would be 100,200 or even 500 $ positive balance....when boat is sinking ,who cares if passengers can not sleep,eat or walk

Originally Posted by Beacon

Hooker who took the "ten year lease" ( well he claimed to but didnt put a copy anywhere) does not even mention being in BB.

That'll be because he's now "retired"...

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Originally Posted by Tomas

Thanks for this!



Means more and more people want to "save" some money before the ship will go down as they know already this ship MUST go down!

BTW did You know this thread has over 20 reading guests every time when I enter here???? Nice.

You are welcome. Regarding "guests", I almost always show as one because I usually just read the thread and only log in when I want to comment.

I don't know if it is possible here but it would be helpful if the site would keep us logged in. This is how it works over at MMG. I understand there may be security issues but I am not a techie and do not know how it works.

Mark