Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Is their facebook`s page gone?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banne...70163963067650

No matter how hard I try I cant find this legitimate HYIP business on FB...

I will give $100 cash to anyone who can post proof that they broke Symon's *&$% finger.

There's just something about that retarded monkey that makes me want to hit someone.

Originally Posted by Gregg

I will give $100 cash to anyone who can post proof that they broke Symon's *&$% finger.

There's just something about that retarded monkey that makes me want to hit someone.

Make it £100.
*Readies sledgehammer*

Originally Posted by Gregg

I will give $100 cash to anyone who can post proof that they broke Symon's *&$% finger.

There's just something about that retarded monkey that makes me want to hit someone.

Gundam it!!


Why is the good offers are always for jobs abroad.

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Originally Posted by Nourjan

Only a truly egotistical narcissist would ever quote himself

I put £95 into BB last November. Thankfully I haven't put in anymore money in but I did sign in 2 referrals which I am now feeling very bad about. One of them has put in a payment request to draw out his initial investment of £480 but has only received a partial payment of $100 so far despite having well over $700 to withdraw. I have now encouraged them both to get their money out as soon as they can.

What truelly baffles me is the world wide negative attention BB is getting but people still sign in and new countries open up. How long will it take the relevent investigative authorities to shut them down? I have other people, that I have "sold" this to, who want to sign in but I have referred them to this site so that they can get a true picture of what's going on.

I'll keep the forum updated as things progress

Originally Posted by joe pineapples

I put £95 into BB last November. Thankfully I haven't put in anymore money in but I did sign in 2 referrals which I am now feeling very bad about. One of them has put in a payment request to draw out his initial investment of £480 but has only received a partial payment of $100 so far despite having well over $700 to withdraw. I have now encouraged them both to get their money out as soon as they can.

What truelly baffles me is the world wide negative attention BB is getting but people still sign in and new countries open up. How long will it take the relevent investigative authorities to shut them down? I have other people, that I have "sold" this to, who want to sign in but I have referred them to this site so that they can get a true picture of what's going on.

I'll keep the forum updated as things progress

Hello Joe,

Welcome to my team. Actually I have not lost a penny at legitimate HYIP business called BB but introduced a friend of mine and he probably lost 500 pounds...
I guess in You case they can still make a charge back on their credit cards. In most cases up to 150 days after online purchase...

How long will it take the relevent investigative authorities to shut them down?
IMO very loooong...

@Joe: Welcome to realscam. You say you are baffled why people are still joining when there is negative attention. But you still joined last November. There was negative press then too. Why did you join?
(not trying to be confrontational just interested)

Originally Posted by noname999

@Joe: Welcome to realscam. You say you are baffled why people are still joining when there is negative attention. But you still joined last November. There was negative press then too. Why did you join?
(not trying to be confrontational just interested)

Think back to late last year.

The first 4 of 5 Banners Broker pages on Google were all from Banners Broker members ensuring any negative comments were buried.

In fact, REALSCAM.com came under some criticism for the fact our SEO wasn't effective and our page ranking on Google wasn't "good enough" and we should be doing more.

IM(very)HO, it's all too easy to forget HYIP ponzi frauds such as Banners Broker don't just "happen"

There are literally THOUSANDS of people out there beavering away doing all the behind the scenes work such as bombarding Google and posting "random" good news stories.

Not strictly true. On a search last year you would have found this page site on the second page and scam.com on the first page. Also the fact that there were so many searches with BB and scam together would set off alarm bells.
Any search over 2 minutes would have shown up negative press.

Originally Posted by noname99

Any search over 2 minutes would have shown up negative press.

Presuming, of course, they actually searched.

In my experience, the type of "searching" we take as being SOP is less common than we might assume in the great majority of 'net users.

Originally Posted by waverider

latest news from dodgeybrokers revolves around their traffic packs, a measure designed to keep more $$$ within the system, and slow the outwards flow of $$$ (withdrawal requests). Instead of getting 100'000 of traffic for $50, this pathetic excuse of a company has decided to lower the 'value-for-money ratio" and offer just 60'000 traffic for $50. After 15 May 55k for $50 for standard, 60k for $50 per TP for premium members....

[8:51:38 AM] JulesUk: Traffic Pack subscription restrictions will no longer be implemented. Affiliates are still able to qualify panels with any method they choose. Affiliates will be able to use traffic pack traffic hits for external websites, but these traffic packs need to be new traffic pack purchases. Current traffic pack commitments can only be used to qualify panels. If affiliates do purchase traffic packs for external use, there will be no monthly commitment. Starting May 15th, affiliates will be able to cancel a maximum of 2 traffic pack subscriptions at one time (if they do not want to cancel all of them). This is a one-time only occurrence.
Starting May 15th, the 50,000 bonus hits received when purchasing traffic packs will change (for both current commitments and new purchases). If youre a standard member, you will receive 5,000 bonus traffic hits if youre a premium member, you will receive 10,000 bonus traffic hits and if youre an executive member, you will receive 15,000 bonus traffic hits. If a new traffic pack purchase is being used for an external website, you will not receive any bonus hits you will only receive 50,000 hits in total for your purchase.
[2/05/13 10:22:08 AM] Adam Ziemski: and now instead of 100.000 traffic we get 60,000

I doubt it has anything to do with traffic what so ever but is one more internal formula just to control an account geting money from another account - it's like main water valve in every home and then kitchen,bathroom have their own valve...now you can play with kitchen water valve but if the main valve is closed,your play is useless...so the BB ...the scam gives members the illussion they are boss in back office what is totally worthless as the main valve is controled by the scammers

Originally Posted by noname999

Not strictly true. On a search last year you would have found this page site on the second page and scam.com on the first page. Also the fact that there were so many searches with BB and scam together would set off alarm bells.
Any search over 2 minutes would have shown up negative press.

About year ago Ive spend more than 2 minutes and even asked legitimate HYIP BB if they are HYIP after finding them on one of the HYIP monitor....
Of course BB refused to be a HYIP...
We talk about March 2012

I have found no single negative blog/page and joined them, that`s all. I really believed they are 2nd Google

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Presuming, of course, they actually searched.

In my experience, the type of "searching" we take as being SOP is less common than we might assume in the great majority of 'net users.

Yeah, thats why I don't want Joe to think its strange that people are still joining. Much of the information he is now privy to, would have been available before he joined too.

One thing, I keep calling BB HYIP right? Im wrong, BB is not a HYIP. Real HYIP program:
1. Do not change rules
2. Dying in few days after it stops paying investors.

BB
1. Is Changing rules now every day.
2. Carry on after it stops paying most of their victims.

Originally Posted by waverider

latest news from dodgeybrokers revolves around their traffic packs, a measure designed to keep more $$$ within the system, and slow the outwards flow of $$$ (withdrawal requests). Instead of getting 100'000 of traffic for $50, this pathetic excuse of a company has decided to lower the 'value-for-money ratio" and offer just 60'000 traffic for $50. After 15 May 55k for $50 for standard, 60k for $50 per TP for premium members....

[8:51:38 AM] JulesUk: Traffic Pack subscription restrictions will no longer be implemented. Affiliates are still able to qualify panels with any method they choose. Affiliates will be able to use traffic pack traffic hits for external websites, but these traffic packs need to be new traffic pack purchases. Current traffic pack commitments can only be used to qualify panels. If affiliates do purchase traffic packs for external use, there will be no monthly commitment. Starting May 15th, affiliates will be able to cancel a maximum of 2 traffic pack subscriptions at one time (if they do not want to cancel all of them). This is a one-time only occurrence.
Starting May 15th, the 50,000 bonus hits received when purchasing traffic packs will change (for both current commitments and new purchases). If youre a standard member, you will receive 5,000 bonus traffic hits if youre a premium member, you will receive 10,000 bonus traffic hits and if youre an executive member, you will receive 15,000 bonus traffic hits. If a new traffic pack purchase is being used for an external website, you will not receive any bonus hits you will only receive 50,000 hits in total for your purchase.
[2/05/13 10:22:08 AM] Adam Ziemski: and now instead of 100.000 traffic we get 60,000

Surely you can not be speaking of the same company that Terry David Stern spent pages of waffle trying to convince us that BB was a real company, with real partners, really doing business and not at all a scam?

So, the pretendy business partner has now reduced income received by BB by 40 and 50% which has of course, been passed onto it's "investors", the ever suffering BB members. Where is the outrage you would expect from any company who has just had their income reduced so dramatically? Surely BB must be furious, perhaps even ready to reveal this most guarded secret of all, who the business partner is?

Nah, of course not, just rhetorical questions. If you could only trust the algorithm's created by maths genius's who are not even prepared to disclose where they received this fantastic education

From biggest pimp in The UK facebook`s website:
simonfb.jpg

Not deleted comment? Must be busy spending money....

Originally Posted by noname999

Yeah, thats why I don't want Joe to think its strange that people are still joining. Much of the information he is now privy to, would have been available before he joined too.

I too am amazed that as many people fall for the things that they do, and many seemingly fall for the same thing over and over again. For instance on the Profitable Sunrise Facebook page it is filled with spam for other programs. Intuitively I would think that people that just got screwed would be the last people in the world to want to part with their money, but I am guessing the reverse is true. In fact one of the recent posts that gathered the most comments and 36 likes was from the person who set up the page. The byline was turn 0 into $700k in 30 days, now without any research I would call BS on that.

What is it that makes presumably 36 people think that this is not only a real possibility, but a great idea? And considering it was shared by a person who thought that PS was the real deal too. That sort of mindset is very hard to get through to no matter how many red flags are thrown on the field.

Originally Posted by Tomas

One thing, I keep calling BB HYIP right? Im wrong, BB is not a HYIP. Real HYIP program:
1. Do not change rules
2. Dying in few days after it stops paying investors.

BB
1. Is Changing rules now every day.
2. Carry on after it stops paying most of their victims.

What on earth is a "real" HYIP program ???

There is no such thing as a "real" HYIP.

In fact, NOTHING about a HYIP is "real"

There are no "rules" in the HYIP world.

There's only what HYIP ponzi pimps and shills would like you to believe.

Originally Posted by Tomas

About year ago Ive spend more than 2 minutes and even asked legitimate HYIP BB if they are HYIP after finding them on one of the HYIP monitor....
Of course BB refused to be a HYIP...
We talk about March 2012

I have found no single negative blog/page and joined them, that`s all. I really believed they are 2nd Google

Why would you think it was the 2nd Google?
When Google first started they had:
1. Owners were Computer Science students at Stanford and were actually running a search engine at the University
2. The company Google Inc. was funded with $100,000 by one of the owners in 1998
3. Google set up office in a garage for a few months then moved to Palo Alto with 8 employees
4. Google gets funded by a legitimate company with $25 mil
5. In 2000, Google becomes one of the worlds largest search engine companies

After 2 minutes of DD
Banners Broker
1. Owner, Chris Smith, although claiming to be a MIT grad, has no experience in the space that Google is in. His experience is running HYIP scams
2. BB was funded by recruiting members into a business that has no product and promised members double their investment without working for it
3. BB still has no office - only a virtual office in Isle of Man or Belize. BB has no employees - all staff are Stellar Points. Try and phone actual BB head office if you can find it and see who answers the phone.
4.A BB search, a couple of months after launch, labelled a scam and Ponzi in many forums

BB, the 2nd Google? Too many red flags in the above to not do more DD before donating any money to BB.

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

Why would you think it was the 2nd Google?
When Google first started they had:
1. Owners were Computer Science students at Stanford and were actually running a search engine at the University
2. The company Google Inc. was funded with $100,000 by one of the owners in 1998
3. Google set up office in a garage for a few months then moved to Palo Alto with 8 employees
4. Google gets funded by a legitimate company with $25 mil
5. In 2000, Google becomes one of the worlds largest search engine companies

After 2 minutes of DD
Banners Broker
1. Owner, Chris Smith, although claiming to be a MIT grad, has no experience in the space that Google is in. His experience is running HYIP scams
2. BB was funded by recruiting members into a business that has no product and promised members double their investment without working for it
3. BB still has no office - only a virtual office in Isle of Man or Belize. BB has no employees - all staff are Stellar Points. Try and phone actual BB head office if you can find it and see who answers the phone.
4.A BB search, a couple of months after launch, labelled a scam and Ponzi in many forums

BB, the 2nd Google? Too many red flags in the above to not do more DD before donating any money to BB.

Hi,

My apologies I mean Google Adwors (which I use sometimes), but You are right my ignorance this time did take money off me but there will be no more online investments in my life. I promise ;)

Originally Posted by Tomas

Hi,

My apologies I mean Google Adwors (which I use sometimes), but You are right my ignorance this time did take money off me but there will be no more online investments in my life. I promise ;)

No apology required. I just wanted to point out that there was quite a bit if info on BB out there over a year ago. Having said that, the promoters are pretty slick at disguising their true business model and people really want to believe that just maybe this is a really good work-at-home business that could earn them a lot of money for doing next to nothing. Unfortunately, those businesses don't exist and when hearing of a business that claims to do that, it should set of warning signs to anyone do a lot of research on that business to make sure it is legitimate and doesn't pay you (in any way, shape or form) for recruiting members in order to get paid.

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

No apology required. I just wanted to point out that there was quite a bit if info on BB out there over a year ago. Having said that, the promoters are pretty slick at disguising their true business model and people really want to believe that just maybe this is a really good work-at-home business that could earn them a lot of money for doing next to nothing. Unfortunately, those businesses don't exist and when hearing of a business that claims to do that, it should set of warning signs to anyone do a lot of research on that business to make sure it is legitimate and doesn't pay you (in any way, shape or form) for recruiting members in order to get paid.

A year ago when You searched: "banners broker scam", or "banners broker review" You could find on page one and two only positive blogs. Even now You can find them but this time positive blogs about BB are on page 3-4, and thankfully the truth is on page one and two....personally I never go beyond page 2 when googling...

Also I never heard that BB doubles money those days. Barely got back my principal after 12 months!

Posted from the leader's call, looks like they are listening to the input...
A few summarized points from this mornings leaders call :
Chris Speaking-

#1-Niagra convention has been cancelled.
Anyone who has bought a Blue Mercedes panel and anyone who does buy a Mercedes panel , now stands a chance to win the Mercedes. One does NOT need to be in canada to win. The draw will take place on the same day.
Anyone who has already bought tickets and does come to Canada will be entertained.

#2-Wire has just been received and Payouts will be going out in the next couple of days.

#3-We do have a new processor that we are working on, however these things take time to implement . The previous bb card took 10 months to implement . We do not want the new processor to be a "here today gone tommorrow" thing. We want a permanent solution.There is also a lot of due diligence involved that we have to do to ensure this and we are in the process of doing this.
We are NOT going to mention the new processor as the last thing we want is for bloggers to get a hold of this information and start making negative comments.

#4- The trafic pack rule: We want our program to be an Affiliate based program , thus the new trafic pack rule is to make it look les attractive. Our original goal was for our program to be an affiliate based program and NOT a passive income program.

Note: On the 15th we will be able to cancel TWO trafic packs ONLY. Chris did NOT mention anything about being able to cancell all trafic packs without the penalty.

Originally Posted by Tomas

A year ago when You searched: "banners broker scam", or "banners broker review" You could find on page one and two only positive blogs. Even now You can find them but this time positive blogs about BB are on page 3-4, and thankfully the truth is on page one and two....personally I never go beyond page 2 when googling...

Also I never heard that BB doubles money those days. Barely got back my principal after 12 months!

I would say in fairness it is hard in some cases to dig up real dirt. I had done a little poking on David Wood and Dave Sharpe the guys who appear to be behind Empower Network which is currently running. For instance are their stories about being homeless real? Have they had any legal troubles? Do they really live in the mansion where they shot the video? Even if some of this stuff fails to check out, there are plenty of "gurus" that have been caught in a web of lies and not many people seem to care. (If I were truly thinking about plunking down $5000 to invest with them I would hire a private investigator to do some real digging). But how many people are going to do that on a review site with money out of their own pocket to protect folks who would probably chastise them anyway?

With all the gushing reviews I would think the "Daves" are able to walk on water. Then you look at the promo and think hey they only want $25 for all this good stuff, and then the hook is set. Unless someone is naturally skeptical and asks good questions, happens upon the right information, or a central repository of the actors misdeeds then what to do? Most people I suspect would quit looking after three or four sites.

Thanks for this!

Originally Posted by marsh56

Note: On the 15th we will be able to cancel TWO trafic packs ONLY. Chris did NOT mention anything about being able to cancell all trafic packs without the penalty.

Means more and more people want to "save" some money before the ship will go down as they know already this ship MUST go down!

BTW did You know this thread has over 20 reading guests every time when I enter here???? Nice.