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    Quote Originally Posted by markh View Post
    Well said, Brenda. But don't you mean pretend business(es) lol. Apparently they are now getting into website building for clients. The best part --- slave labour creates the articles for a fraction of a qualified yellow panel. Reminds me of the loyal ancient egyptians building the pryramids. My concern is for my friend who is still in the denial stage. She is shooting out articles. She could be getting paid $450 a month to do it here Canadian Telecommuting (LOL)

    Check out dyzmedia.com said to be located at.

    181 Bay Street,
    Toronto, Canada

    The geniuses behind 150cash, popcornpanel etc. All have exactly the same IP address How long has this dzy site been operating for - last I saw it was parked? In my rigorous weeks of research I missed it!
    I think that info was on here before markh. There is so much info on here it is hard to keep track of it. Your mention of 150cash.com reminded me that samuel.r pointed us to Chris Smith's ex employer's website. Which heavily pushed 150cash and probux. It seems that a lot of the scam merchants seem to be connected in one way or another. Lots of info out there on them if we could only join the dots.
    The fact that Vector was established around the same time as BB might seem to some like a coincidence. But for the owner of vector after MC dumped them to then go on a bb Webinar, and praise bb to the rafters, and jolly up the disgruntled affiliates. Even attend a conference. Well that just smacks of collusion. I reckon he is still in bb, ferreting away. It is like a nest of vipers. Who knows who we will connect to the invalid bb next.

    Just noticed that chris ex employers website stteps.com is offline now. Parked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie Diligent View Post
    Welcome, Wuw (I think).

    For the sake of your blood-pressure and gastrointestinal tract, might I respectfully suggest you wean yourself off the Alex Jones Channel. (And I say that as a wide-awake 'conspiracist'.)
    Evening all.

    Personally, I loved WuW's posting. Didn't understand it, but still enjoyed it. In a "batsh*t insanity" kind of way.

    I was going to ask him if he had read many books by David Icke, ( he of the Alien Lizards being behind everything) but decided I'd better not.

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    Over at MMG, "Rooneyfenomeno" has posted this exchange with BB's support staff (post number 7930):-


    Hello BB staff,
    I read about tha graphic panels display problem
    "Please note , that your panels are earning, unfortunately it is the graphics that are not displaying the updates. We are aware and are working on restoring the graphics. "

    Please, can you explain from a technical point of view, why this problem is happening only specifically on those panels that reached the cap ? And why all the other panels are regularly updated correctly ? I am missing this key point

    Hi xxxxx

    This is happening due to the global wide internet crash and our old server was affected by it along with the panels etc. We are working on having all the old panels issues resolved and back up to speed with the new proxy server we have in place now.

    We appreciate your concern and understanding of the issue at this time as we focus on having it resolved.

    Kind Regards,
    BB Team

    So the internet crash wasn't just "global", it was "global wide", whatever that means. What will those crazy kids at BB come up with next?!

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    Paul McCarthy has done a webinar today -it is here on YouTube:-

    Paul McCarthy Webinar Q&A 04-04-2013 - YouTube

    It's a bit amateurish if you ask me......not listened to it all though...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Paul McCarthy has done a webinar today -it is here on YouTube:-

    Paul McCarthy Webinar Q&A 04-04-2013 - YouTube

    It's a bit amateurish if you ask me......not listened to it all though...........
    Dave Hookers are also pretty bad to be honest.

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Paul McCarthy has done a webinar today -it is here on YouTube:-

    Paul McCarthy Webinar Q&A 04-04-2013 - YouTube

    It's a bit amateurish if you ask me......not listened to it all though...........

    McCarthy

    Dare's lot of repeat questions
    Yeah, like "where's our f*****g money?"


    I get the feeling the comments section might be a problem for him....


    Screen shot 2013-04-04 at 23.23.19.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theseus View Post
    Yeah, like "where's our f*****g money?"


    I get the feeling the comments section might be a problem for him....


    Screen shot 2013-04-04 at 23.23.19.jpg
    I kinda like the comments myself. I hope the commenter's start on the cheer leaders also. The first time some of the leading cheer leaders end up in orange jumpsuits will go a long way stopping these scams.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    A couple of interesting posts on the FB ponzi scam page -

    A disgruntled affiliate has called the Canadian police fraud team on 0018884958501. The lady she spoke to advised her that if there are more people having the same issues to ring this number plus send info on info @ antifraudcentre.ca. They also advise DON'T load more money in, BB has all ready has been marked RED so I presume so investigation will be follow soon or is on already. Also BB has off shore bank accounts makes it difficult for the investigators.
    This also from a comment on the Daily Mirror -

    We have it on good references that the FCC has been approached regarding the shenanigans going on with BANNERS BROKER International...

    The authorities have been alerted and moves are afoot to investigate what some are calling another ZEEK-Rewards...

    Based on the law of probabilities the best guess is that the company will be shut down and an Administrator authorized to freeze offshore bank accounts and a forensic audit done of the Canadian, USA, UK & EU and other BB domiciles ...

    What will ensue is a class action lawsuit (as it is understood) given that a prestigious law firm in New York has also been contacted over the mishandling of affiliate account...

    Hold on to your hat!!!
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    what FCC has to do with it? Was BB on the U.S. radio or TV ?

    perhaps they tried to say FTC or SEC ?

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    [QUOTE=Julie Diligent;51253]Welcome, Wuw (I think).

    For the sake of your blood-pressure and gastrointestinal tract, might I respectfully suggest you wean yourself off the Alex Jones Channel. (And I say that as a wide-awake 'conspiracist'.)[/QUOTe}
    I was just going to to suggest he loosen the tin foil hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerrygo View Post
    Wow. I have seen some illogical posts by bb defenders. But that rambling garbage by WUW was absolutely by far the most demented yet. 9/11 conspiracies, Aliens, Esp. Slobber dripping on the keyboard. I dont think that post will ever be topped.
    pfft...this guy is just a padewan, for real "crazy as a cross eyed monkey on crack" go to Quatloos Quatloos! • View topic - Let's Help Out Erasmus of America and read some of that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    'Welcome to RS. Thanks for your comments. After all that you said, BB is still a Ponzi and always has been a Ponzi. The people running it are crooks. The people promoting it are crooks.

    No hate, no ego, no remorse for warning people this is a Ponzi and to not invest. There is no real business. The only business BB has is organized stealing. Sorry you do not see it that way but reality sucks. Learn to deal with it. Oh by the way, you left out that Social Security is a Ponzi.
    Thanks for the welcome EagleOne =)
    What about HYIPs? They are all outright Ponzies too..or do you disagree...?

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    Yeah truth cant be topped...its people like you and who don't care about anything else accept your own voice...you just proved my post 10 fold...cos you have made accusations based on typical sheepish mentality...go research before you start branding people idiot !!!

    Its amazing how blind you are and how you live with blinkers...you really think the links i included is garbage and coming from a nutcase...i feel sorry for you...you are not branding me a "crazy as a cross eyed monkey on crack" you are actually calling experts and proper reporters and researches I am just a messenger...but hey if that is what makes you feel warm and fuzzy at night...all power to you =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    I was just going to to suggest he loosen the tin foil hat.


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    you people are just validating my over all point...but you are so far gone on your mission to destroy others and continue with your vendettas...it really is shocking to see how vicious you can be and continue to be even when someone enlightens you with real problems in the world...its also amazing how you continue with out skipping a beat with your mission of destruction and only take parts of my post to target which is real issues...just so you can fuel your bitter responses...you didn't even read it properly [those of you who have attacked me]...you assume i am a BB member...again proving my point 10 fold...you are judge and jury without knowing a thing...I have seen friends and family lose due to actions i see on forums like this...but keep up the assumptions guys...one day an assumption will be directed at you and you too will fall as a result...and you will see exactly how it feels...you just stick together like bullies in the playground...seriously it really is a major concern when you cant comprehend my message but instead attack it with out even reviewing the links...cos if you did you would not be responding for a while as there is a mountain of information and impossible to review unless you live on your keyboard...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakeupwankers
    seriously it really is a major concern when you cant comprehend my message but instead attack it with out even reviewing the links...

    Ooooooooooh,

    wankupwankers is a psychic too.

    He knows from behind HIS keyboard what posters have and haven't done.

    I suppose, when one has one's own head firmly in ones' own anal orifice, it really IS hard to comprehend posters have not only read his links, but, digested the information, and then rejected it out of hand.

    Still I'm sure he/she feels better now he/she has found another venue on which to spew his conspiracist rantings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markh View Post
    Hi all, new here hoping to provide some insights and learn who I can trust!

    I joined Banners Broker a while back investing a small amount under pressure from a friend. But I'm glad I never touched it since because alarm bells went off when I read the technical excuses

    I am an experienced web developer and also educated to a post graduate level in that field. The excuses they have given are anything but valid.

    A denial of service attack against BB can't be mitigated by changing hosts. In fact, if a website is targeted the only real way is to make the cost of the attack greater or equal to the cost of being attacked. Anyway the attackers can simply find the new IP address ... we all know the domain name after all. That's all they really need to launch a Denial of Service attack. It was likely down because of server overload on their old shared hosting account.

    The migration, like another user mentioned, is seamless these days. In fact, all they really need to do is to change the config file. After all they are using PHP and MYSQL. I know because they slipped up – I even discovered the framework they are using. At present they are doing there best to mask the framework thus it is possible they are having trouble as there is a lot of hard coding to hide. Although it is hard to verify, they had one major slip up and semantically the code is similar, just with changes to path names and default names. I'll keep everybody posted on the source code.

    Another thing. Why would they cache people's panel pages? I know server caching helps the load but with 300, 000 affiliates you'd be caching individual tailored pages (eg. I have 10 yellow panels and Joe has 5 yellow panels). It defies logic. But if they are trying to cover their tracks, as I said before, they might be taking time to figure out how this framework works. Had they their own propriety system and dedicated I.T. Team this would not be a problem.

    On that note, where is the engine hosted anyway? If the engine didn't move when the site was down, something tells me there's no need to reconnect them to work in harmony because they already exist on the same platform. I don't see any network traffic being exchanged other than google analytics and their own and yet panels are moving when they feel like it. Must be internal.

    Or push button. I read somewhere from one of BB's biggest fans that panels rollup if you visit after not visiting for a while. What that means is that the so-called engine is triggered by people. Here is a quote from the classroom:

    “The way it was working is that every time you go to the yellow view panel page, for example, your older yellows rollup, 3 at a time, each time you hit the page or refresh it”

    What? Not even a cronjob!

    And why do we have to wait 5mins for our banners to appear after upload? What are we waiting for? The time is already taken in the upload process. Why do we have to manually upload our BB banners that we have to advertise in the first place? Surely this could be automated. The default banners are already on the site.

    I thought Chris Smith was both a mathematical and I.T. genius...

    But then again, the target demographic are the less savvy, more vulnerable and older generation of people. It comes as no surprise that the new challenges are fairly tricky for this demographic. One lady I spoke to in her 70s was asking me how on earth was she going to blog as her final option. She knows nothing about it. Another did a blog and didn't even get enough to qualify a yellow!

    But perhaps the biggest concern I have is identity theft. Why are we being asked so many security questions and being requested to hand in notarised forms along with consent to withdraw from our bank and our bank details? This information will come in handy when they can't voluntarily get your money.

    Basic computer security states that you should only have as much access as required. Why do they need this overkill of information.

    Just my two cents worth...
    markh:

    I took the liberty of posting your remarks at MMG in the BB thread, and I'm afraid it wasn't well received. One poster replied, and I quote:


    "Rubbish."

    Another self-professed guru said this, and again I quote:

    "This has to be the worst post I have seen in my life. It is so full of misconceptions about things you obviously do not know.
    "Shared server" I would love to see any website run on a shared server with millions of pageviews. I don't care what the business is.
    I have spent almost a month tweaking my own server as I keep getting errors since I migrated. Do you have any clue about server configurations testing and everything that is involved including operating systems. Different versions different types of cache. Different types of everything. Even different types of hardware. What works great on one not always works great on another. Many IT departments do the same thing if its not broke you do not fix it this includes upgrades. It is common practice. You only fix what is broken. It keeps your job secure.

    I could not care less about the site you were discussing but this post is written by a person that has never dealt with any server. What was the latest and greatest last year is old and outdated today. If anyone makes assumptions about anything please put up facts not dribble. I like to read these things for a laugh but now you made me register just so I can respond.

    As for the 70 year old who cant blog. If she can manage her account she can manage to blog. You have and you dont know jack. Blogging is about writing stuff people will read. Like this forum. I come here to read. If she has not mastered the art of basic writing skills by now please stick a fork in her shes done."

    Now understand, this poster could not differentiate between my intro of your post and your post. I also doubt this poster has a clue about techie things, but is just a BB Kool-Aid drinker. But feel free to come and join the fun at MMG in the BB thread. You can join us here: Banners Broker - bannersbroker.com
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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Ooooooooooh,

    wankupwankers is a psychic too.
    As his posts have no relevancy to the subject where they were posted, perhaps they should be moved to his own little rant topic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by markh
    It was likely down because of server overload on their old shared hosting account.
    Personally, I'd be more inclined to think it was "down" because they wanted it to be "down"

    Anyone who has been around the HYIP ponzi scene for any more than 5 minutes will tell you "server problems" are the #1 excuse used by HYIP ponzi fraudsters to explain away delayed or non existent payments.

    What victims fail to realize or don't want to recognize is, believable reason or no believable reason, Banners Broker stopped paying some members as far back as December and stopped paying ALL members 2 months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypanor View Post
    As his posts have no relevancy to the subject where they were posted, perhaps they should be moved to his own little rant topic?
    Let's be kind to the little fella and let him have his Andy Warhol "15 minutes of fame"

    It can't be much fun for him having to spend his nights howling at the moon while at the same time expecting people to take him/her seriously
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    Quote Originally Posted by wakeupwankers View Post
    Yeah truth cant be topped...its people like you and who don't care about anything else accept your own voice...you just proved my post 10 fold...cos you have made accusations based on typical sheepish mentality...go research before you start branding people idiot !!!

    Its amazing how blind you are and how you live with blinkers...you really think the links i included is garbage and coming from a nutcase...i feel sorry for you...you are not branding me a "crazy as a cross eyed monkey on crack" you are actually calling experts and proper reporters and researches I am just a messenger...but hey if that is what makes you feel warm and fuzzy at night...all power to you =)
    Reading is fundamental. Had you the wits to comprehend, you would see that I never said you were crazy as a cross eyed monkey on crack, I in fact said you were not as crazy as someone else who is as crazy as a cross eyed monkey on crack. Important distinction that. Now that you mention it, though, I shall opine.

    I, and a few of the finer universities on earth consider me somewhat of an expert on at least banking and business in general, and everything you copy-pasted about those subjects is, IN MY EXPERT OPINION, crazy as a cross eyed monkey on crack. I'll base my opinions on the subjects mentioned in which I don't have a relevant Doctorate on the delusions exhibited on those which I do.

    ...or as Dean Wormer once said, "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life young man" While I have no reason to think you're actually fat, if you're not drunk you're at least stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakeupwankers View Post
    you people are just validating my over all point...but you are so far gone on your mission to destroy others and continue with your vendettas...it really is shocking to see how vicious you can be and continue to be even when someone enlightens you with real problems in the world...its also amazing how you continue with out skipping a beat with your mission of destruction and only take parts of my post to target which is real issues...just so you can fuel your bitter responses...you didn't even read it properly [those of you who have attacked me]...you assume i am a BB member...again proving my point 10 fold...you are judge and jury without knowing a thing...I have seen friends and family lose due to actions i see on forums like this...but keep up the assumptions guys...one day an assumption will be directed at you and you too will fall as a result...and you will see exactly how it feels...you just stick together like bullies in the playground...seriously it really is a major concern when you cant comprehend my message but instead attack it with out even reviewing the links...cos if you did you would not be responding for a while as there is a mountain of information and impossible to review unless you live on your keyboard...
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    Or did Finix send you here to annoy us??.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypanor View Post
    As his posts have no relevancy to the subject where they were posted, perhaps they should be moved to his own little rant topic?
    Yea...Move the ****** to the play room
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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    Yea...Move the ****** to the play room
    No, leave him here at least until he gets going on The Federal Reserve, I'm having fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakeupwankers View Post
    you people are just validating my over all point...but you are so far gone on your mission to destroy others and continue with your vendettas...it really is shocking to see how vicious you can be and continue to be even when someone enlightens you with real problems in the world...its also amazing how you continue with out skipping a beat with your mission of destruction and only take parts of my post to target which is real issues...just so you can fuel your bitter responses...you didn't even read it properly [those of you who have attacked me]...you assume i am a BB member...again proving my point 10 fold...you are judge and jury without knowing a thing...I have seen friends and family lose due to actions i see on forums like this...but keep up the assumptions guys...one day an assumption will be directed at you and you too will fall as a result...and you will see exactly how it feels...you just stick together like bullies in the playground...seriously it really is a major concern when you cant comprehend my message but instead attack it with out even reviewing the links...cos if you did you would not be responding for a while as there is a mountain of information and impossible to review unless you live on your keyboard...
    wuw: there are plenty of forums that discuss all the "serious" issues you claim we are not addressing here at RS. I guess you missed the point of this forum. It is to expose and warn people about Ponzi's. We present information and it is up to the person reading it to determine if the program is real or not and they decide. Try reading the logo of the site if you still don't get it.

    BB is a Ponzi. It always has been and always will be a Ponzi. I really don't care what else you want to talk about since this thread is about BB.

    This forum and threads are not about all the "other stuff" you want to discuss. Therefore, take it to a forum or thread where they do discuss these topics.
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