Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

I informed them also, the more the merrier.

All emails should be sent to abuse@softlayer.com

Please let it be known that this is a matter of urgency and provide a few links for the abuse department to read.
If we can make their lives easier then they'll make ours easier ... I hope!

Jason

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

Yes, I noticed that too. They are focusing mainly on countries who are having economic struggles. I don't think they are doing well here in Canada either so maybe that is why the con-conference in Niagara Falls to try and con more Canadians. Although in Canada it is not due to the economy but rather that Raj has very few friends left in this part of the country due to the IFC scam whose offices in Peterborough were only about 60 KM from their current office in Whitby. If BB lasts long enough to have the Niagara Con-conference it will be mostly non-Canadians attending.

its not a conference. Hookers slip let out it was an invention not a convention.

Hello guys,

I've written my final word on Banners Broker. Thanks to the RS team for all your work. I got a lot of useful documentation from here, and it's the best place to keep up to date. I've gone public on Facebook with this, and I've encouraged my contacts to read and share (I know some of them are "in"). I encourage you to do the same!

Banners Broker: Meltdown | A blog

Keep up the good work,

Michael

Originally Posted by caecilius

Hello guys,

I've written my final word on Banners Broker. Thanks to the RS team for all your work. I got a lot of useful documentation from here, and it's the best place to keep up to date. I've gone public on Facebook with this, and I've encouraged my contacts to read and share (I know some of them are "in"). I encourage you to do the same!

Banners Broker: Meltdown | A blog

Keep up the good work,

Michael

Michael: Great article and thanks for writing it. Hopefully people will read it and not be a victim by joining, and for those in it will realize what BB truly is, and always has been a Ponzi. There is no business model here.

Just found this posted on BB official FB page by BB:

There was a notice given that the website was being transferred as the result of consistent attacks on our servers. The IT team has been working diligently to get the site back up and running, and installing new measures to minimize future attacks.

3 hours ago..

BannersBroker We are aware that these delays are affecting your business, but the actions being taken are so that you are able to better build and sustain your businesses in the future.

The system that monitors the panel movements is a separate system so it hasn't been affected by these recent website outages, but the system to display that movement, aka the website, is being worked on.

Your patience is greatly apprecaited. As more news becomes available, we'll update you through official channels.

Although this is the Official Facebook page for Banners Broker Inernational, it is NOT currently an official information resource. Please refer to the webinars and your IC's/GM's for official information regarding the status of the company, and support for issues concerning your accounts.

Thank You.

3 hours ago
Official FB page:

Originally Posted by caecilius

Hello guys,

I've written my final word on Banners Broker. Thanks to the RS team for all your work. I got a lot of useful documentation from here, and it's the best place to keep up to date. I've gone public on Facebook with this, and I've encouraged my contacts to read and share (I know some of them are "in"). I encourage you to do the same!

Banners Broker: Meltdown | A blog


Keep up the good work,

Michael

Great article, Thank you!!!

Originally Posted by caecilius

Hello guys,

I've written my final word on Banners Broker. Thanks to the RS team for all your work. I got a lot of useful documentation from here, and it's the best place to keep up to date. I've gone public on Facebook with this, and I've encouraged my contacts to read and share (I know some of them are "in"). I encourage you to do the same!

Banners Broker: Meltdown | A blog



Keep up the good work,

Michael

Michael, hope you stick around, you can never say never!! Great article , again :)

have the 'staff' also run for the hills? Found this recent job ad

Banners Broker Careers & Jobs 2013 | Bayt.com

maybe this one left for better things? Would have thought with all the expansion over the last few months that there would be more recruitment

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Michael, that's a great article, thank you. I am going to send it to someone I know who has, sadly joined in the last couple of months.

Thanks again!!

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Just found this posted on BB official FB page by BB:

There was a notice given that the website was being transferred as the result of consistent attacks on our servers. The IT team has been working diligently to get the site back up and running, and installing new measures to minimize future attacks.

3 hours ago..

BannersBroker We are aware that these delays are affecting your business, but the actions being taken are so that you are able to better build and sustain your businesses in the future.

The system that monitors the panel movements is a separate system so it hasn't been affected by these recent website outages, but the system to display that movement, aka the website, is being worked on.

Your patience is greatly apprecaited. As more news becomes available, we'll update you through official channels.

Although this is the Official Facebook page for Banners Broker Inernational, it is NOT currently an official information resource. Please refer to the webinars and your IC's/GM's for official information regarding the status of the company, and support for issues concerning your accounts.

Thank You.

3 hours ago
Official FB page:

Eh? Is that possible to split the system? I am assuming that this is more rubbish from BB?

As for referring to webinars/ICs/GMs - yadda yadda yadda. As in can anyone really really get into the system?

I'm going out on a limb here and am going to call this a load of bollox.

Sheesh.... believe that, you'll believe anything. Oh ... Wait.....

Looks like they are about to go down yet again - "for maintenance".

Found this on the official BB FB page, posted by an affiliate:-

on frontpage.
Please be advised that our website will be down for scheduled maintenance on Monday March 25, 2013 for up to 90 minutes starting at 5:30pm EST. Thank you.
50 minutes ago · Like

Don't know if they have gone down or not, but blimey, I wish my house got as much maintenance as the BB website!

More Hookers draws syndrome.

Just to introduce a more European note, a lady from Germany has posted the following on Finch's site - the page where he deals with questions and answers from Terry Stern. I haven't looked at this page for ages, but it is interesting to catch up with the comments:-

Hello Mr. Finch,

is it possible to call you on the phone? Here in Germany we are having a very big discussion on Bannersbroker. Now one affiliated from BB is saying that you are flying to Canada at the costs of Bannersbroker, and that you have become a partner, after Bannersbroker introduced what she calls a ‘Variant’. Simply a ‘Variant’, so I don’t even understand what she means with that.

My Telephone number is [ ] When you call, I can call you immediately back, as I can call free of charge all over Europe, provided that you have a home phone.

Dear Mr. Finch, if you like you can write your own experience or/and the latest with BB and/or late developments under this article written by Mr. Michael Zachrau.

BannersBroker - groesster MLM-Betrug mit "Internet-Anzeigen" - ant marketing

In this article he is trying to warn the people against BB. At the very bottom of the page, you can read the comment of someone with the name Gina Le. There she is saying what I wrote above. She also wrote that it was only self-evident why Terry Stern avoided some of your questions. He would not be a fool to reveal the secrets of BB. When you write your comment, I or Mr. Zachrau will translate it to German.

I would appreciate very much if you join the discussion. Bannersbroker is now trying to expand in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. According to another friend of mine, who is an expert in Network, 10 000 people are already affected only in Germany.

For my part, I was approached by a friend who tried to convince me to join this ‘thing’. After I did a bit of research I knew straightway that this was a scam and I tried to warn him. He ended our friendship.

I hope to hear from you soon,

Yours sincerely,

Isabel Henriques

I love the German expressions - "snowball scheme" and "ist-bannersbroker-eine-schwindelfirma". Very descriptive!

(Finch has answered and given his rebuttal, making it clear that he has NOITHING to do with BB.)

IP change again to 50.116.55.17Linode.com informed about BB

Tracing route to bannersbroker.com [50.116.55.17]
over a maximum of 30 hops:


6 106 ms 103 ms 103 ms ae-52-52.csw2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.139.120]


7 * * * Request timed out.
8 104 ms 105 ms 103 ms ae-42-42.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.137.70]


9 103 ms 102 ms 104 ms ae-2-2.ebr1.Newark1.Level3.net [4.69.132.98]
10 104 ms 103 ms 103 ms ae-11-51.car1.Newark1.Level3.net [4.69.156.5]
11 109 ms 108 ms 110 ms NETCCESS.car1.Newark1.Level3.net [4.26.16.186]
12 108 ms 108 ms 107 ms 0.e3-3.tbr2.mmu.nac.net [209.123.11.77]
13 108 ms 108 ms 107 ms vlan805.esd1.mmu.nac.net [209.123.10.34]
14 108 ms 108 ms 109 ms 207.99.53.42
15 398 ms 330 ms 329 ms li441-17.members.linode.com [50.116.55.17]


Trace complete.

Originally Posted by Poyol

They do now.

Just chatted with a Josh H. at Soflayer website, and he told me to report it to "abuse@softlayer.com".
Maybe one of you tech-savie youngsters would like to send them some detail?

Sorry - saw later that this had already been posted !

Once again hosted in the U.S.A. making it subject to U.S. laws:

Thanks for all the love guys!

Don't worry, I'm not going away. I just meant that I'll probably not need to write any more long articles on the subject. I'll still keep up with things right here on this thread!

It's very interesting, by the way, to watch the real-time Google Analytics stats after posting the link to various places - a lot of action from the UK, Canada, Portugal and Ireland mainly.

Oh, and regarding all this "scheduled maintenance" of the BB website - last year I oversaw the transition of a pretty big e-commerce website from one server to another, including all files and database data. Not a small task. How much downtime for "scheduled maintenance"? None!

Michael

Originally Posted by caecilius

Thanks for all the love guys!

Don't worry, I'm not going away. I just meant that I'll probably not need to write any more long articles on the subject. I'll still keep up with things right here on this thread!

It's very interesting, by the way, to watch the real-time Google Analytics stats after posting the link to various places - a lot of action from the UK, Canada, Portugal and Ireland mainly.

Oh, and regarding all this "scheduled maintenance" of the BB website - last year I oversaw the transition of a pretty big e-commerce website from one server to another, including all files and database data. Not a small task. How much downtime for "scheduled maintenance"? None!

Michael

Interesting that those googling are in the main, from english speaking countries. What ever happened to BB India, not a word, no fuss from the affiliates, when we are pretty sure none of them have been paid in many months if at all, why are they all so passive?

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Once again hosted in the U.S.A. making it subject to U.S. laws:

Hehe, LRM, not anymore, back at 5.153.2.116 :)
We should stop, till they stop jumping from one place to another, they do a switchuru twice a day now :)



But yea, their development/staging server is always hosted as a Linode VPS box at 50.116.55.17

Softlayer CDN at 5.153.2.116 perhaps tunnels connections also to 50.116.55.17

50.116.55.17 is now password protected and returns the message "staging"

We seek him here, we seek him there,
Those Frenchies seek him everywhere.
Is he in heaven?—Is he in hell?
That demmed, elusive Pimpernel.

Sir Percy Blakeney, The Scarlet Pimpernel (ch.12)

Originally Posted by littleroundman

50.116.55.17 is now password protected and returns the message "staging"

that's because you don't have an expected Host header in your HTTP request by IP address, if you patch your hosts file to force resolving of bannersbroker.com to 50.116.55.17, you will see same old "under maintenance" page :)

here is a line in my hosts file:

Code:

50.116.55.17    bannersbroker.com

and here is what i see right now when going to bannersbroker.com with overridden IP :)

Screen shot 2013-03-25 at 11.19.50 PM.jpg

It's always at this stage of the game where I find myself feeling little to no sympathy for the remaining suckers, and almost begin to understand why the likes of Raj and co. do what they do - These remaining idiots make it too easy for them. Seriously, you have no website, haven't been paid for 5 months, get fed excuse after excuse that simply doesn't add up (as you're continuously told by people who know more about the internet than you do, such as the people on this forum), yet still continue to "have faith". Having faith at this stage is really not normal behaviour. Anyone reading this who still believes they're legit, you need to get yourself some professional help. I'm not joking either.

Originally Posted by NikSam

that's because you don't have an expected Host header in your HTTP request by IP address, if you patch your hosts file to force resolving of bannersbroker.com to 50.116.55.17, you will see same old "under maintenance" page :)

HeHe,

yep,

that's very similar to the process legitimate investment firms make their customers go through to access their account details.




NOT !!!!

Serious techie question.

How long can the BB website continue to "float" around before it needs to land? Obviously with the IT genius, CS, in charge, it could be many days, weeks, months, years. What do you lot say?

@Caecilius - glad you're hanging around, the more brains we have on this the better.

Hope you all have a good day :)

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Serious techie question.

How long can the BB website continue to "float" around before it needs to land? Obviously with the IT genius, CS, in charge, it could be many days, weeks, months, years. What do you lot say?

@Caecilius - glad you're hanging around, the more brains we have on this the better.

Hope you all have a good day :)

It can 'float' for as long as it wants.
A few years if they really want it to.

Jason