Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Here ya go, desperadoes.

70% off and you're STILL guaranteed to lose.

There's no surer sign a HYIP is on its' last legs.

Looks like those new roll up rules are not sitting well with the drones.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Here ya go, desperadoes.

70% off and you're STILL guaranteed to lose.

There's no surer sign a HYIP is on its' last legs.

You right...BB inside economy is already collapsed.We can expect all kind of earning restrictions,technical issues and uncouthly postponed withdrawals what will bring even more panic and falling panel prices - bally circle kills almost all ponzies at the end

I was waiting for leadership to put a spin on the reason for the rule changes(I know Smith says the roll up rules were there since 2010 but lets be honest, thats a lie).
The drones seem to fall into 2 catagories; (1) Too thick to understand the repercussions to the program, or (2) Too afraid to say anything. Why afraid? If they draw attention to the new failings of BB they may be kicked from the program or it may deter new suckers from joining. So reducing their chances of getting their money back(little do they know...that money is NEVER coming back).
Just wondering if there is anyone with access to official forums that can do a quick check for any disquiet. This is the biggest thing to happen to BB in a long time yet there is almost total silence.
Maybe leadership know that this makes it completely obvious that the scam is done. They couldn't be bothered wasting energy trying to defend the undefendable...

In the meantime, I will continue to compile the list of shills contact details. this will prove invaluable in weeks to come. Disgruntled investors will need to know where to contact these people.
Anyone who has info to add to this list might send me a PM. Any help would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by noname999

This is the biggest thing to happen to BB in a long time yet there is almost total silence.

Simple reason is, the real HYIP ponzi players are long gone.

A MLM Skeptic: Scam Study: Ad Surf Daily

Not sure if this has been here before or not? Have a read and compare to BB.

Have to laugh.

The modus operandi of all these scams is very similar. They are simply variations of the same theme. Programs like BB, ASD, Zeek, JustBeenPaid are set up with the sole purpose of making money for the founders and their inner circle of leaders. If a few more followers make money en route, that's fine with them, as it helps spread the word to the uninformed who may be greedy, or at the other end of the scale, simply desperate, whose money pays for them. The idea is to make money without paying any attention to laws or morality and then find a "business" which has very little or no intrinsic value and put a spin on it - "advertising" is very popular, but there are many more. Their "compensation" systems are usually sufficiently complex to befuddle their members, who then pretend to understand them (including to themselves) in order to continue in them and promote them to all their friends, family and neighbors.

Recruiting tactics are particularly pernicious as they not only offer impossible dreams for 97% of their members, but brainwash them into believing that failure or success is their own responsibility and has little or nothing to do with a fundamentally unsustainable structure, whether or not there is a product of intrinsic value (which there usually is not). Think about it hard. Who on earth would pay the sums requested by the BBs and ASDs of this world for their non existent advertising if they genuinely wanted to increase the number of customers to their own businesses? No one. A few well placed paid adverts with no expectation of any other kind of remuneration would do the trick far more effectively, as anyone who has been involved in advertising will tell you for free. The trick is to stop you thinking about the effectiveness of the advertising or cost and to concentrate your mind on your "other earnings". Perhaps you could one day give up your day job or take off the financial pressure. It works every time.

These people are the masters of manipulation. They are willing to spend days, weeks and years to separate you from your money. Many are highly intelligent, able people who could easily run successful legal businesses, but chose the high risk but highly profitable route of fraud. They know how to lie with impunity and some are genuine sociopaths. They are all opportunists and not one of them cares two figs for the plight of their members. BB's threats to Poyol are, sadly, merely anecdotal. Threats have always had a place in fraudulent activities. They are common practice, whether they are physical, legal, to your reputation, or financial. They are rarely carried out, but occasionally are. They are what happens when you try to separate a crook from his money.

This thread with its detailed content from so many contributors should stand as a wake up call for many and a reality check for those already involved.

Just saw this ridiculous post from one of the major shills(blockbuster) on MMG:

ok, so bb screwed up payments for 1 month lol, so if anyone has any sense they just double their withdrawal the following month, as i have done (got paid for the first withdrawal after reversing and then withdrawing again).... so basically bb bought themselves a month going by your logic lol

ask yourself this also, why in gods name would a scam allow you to buy a package for another member using your ewallet and then payout money from that package you bought for someone? If its a ponzi etc then surely they need new money coming in and how then do they actively say you dont need to recruit and hey, for the heck of it we'll let you buy a package for a friend using funds in the system and then pay them out as that account grows?

BECAUSE IT PREVENTS MONEY FROM LEAVING THE SYSTEM FOR NOW. THEY ARE ALREADY RENEGING ON PAYMENTS. THEY WILL JUST DO THE SAME WITH FUTURE PAYMENTS!!! . People are not that stupid...are they?

Are people actually going to be stupid enough to fall for this bullshit??

Anyone with information on this scumbag, blockbuster, please send it on to me. Must make sure he does not disappear when his beloved scam does.

Here's another brain fart from him:

as for new changes, auto-rollups were supposed to happen a long time ago, the fact that they havent has made sure people have withdrawn a lot more money than they could have. It only affects panels over 7 days old and only rolls up 3 for every 10 of these panels (6 in v 3.0).The fact that they are changing the rewards for repurchased panels only only means that yes you will have to buy more traffic or get more recruits for the shortfall but you are still making a fantastic profit. Changes? lol Some people will complain but seriously look at the bigger picture smile.gif

What a muppet. If anyone actually believes this festering pile of faeces they actually deserve everything they get.

He goes on about looking at the bigger picture...he can't even see passed the end of his greedy ignorant nose...

I must admit when I joined this thread about two weeks ago I wanted to debate the pros and cons of Banners Broker because I wasn't wholly convinced it was a scam now I totally am. I'd like a bit of advice if possible please.

I am based in the UK and have invested about $2000 ( £1200) into this. More worryingly I've been such a fool and uploaded copies of my passport and driving license onto their website I can't believe I've been so stupid. I've cancelled the debit card I used to upload onto the site I didn't use a credit card. I haven't ordered a banners broker credit card so I'm sure I haven't uploaded any more sensitive information like my mother's maiden name etc. What should I be doing in order to protect myself from identity fraud??

Also I know of people higher up the food chain apparently who have earned big bucks from this scam of course this is my money they are "earning" . I have expressed my concerns to my immediate upline but I think she is burying her head in the sand in all honesty. So my second question is when this thing is outed surely the decent thing for these people to do is recompense their downlines??? Or am I hoping for pigs to fly from London to Paris? If they are not willing to play ball is there a legal avenue I can go down?

I have to say I just want back the money I have put in. Nothing more nothing less!!

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

I must admit when I joined this thread about two weeks ago I wanted to debate the pros and cons of Banners Broker because I wasn't wholly convinced it was a scam now I totally am. I'd like a bit of advice if possible please.

I am based in the UK and have invested about $2000 ( £1200) into this. More worryingly I've been such a fool and uploaded copies of my passport and driving license onto their website I can't believe I've been so stupid. I've cancelled the debit card I used to upload onto the site I didn't use a credit card. I haven't ordered a banners broker credit card so I'm sure I haven't uploaded any more sensitive information like my mother's maiden name etc. What should I be doing in order to protect myself from identity fraud??

Also I know of people higher up the food chain apparently who have earned big bucks from this scam of course this is my money they are "earning" . I have expressed my concerns to my immediate upline but I think she is burying her head in the sand in all honesty. So my second question is when this thing is outed surely the decent thing for these people to do is recompense their downlines??? Or am I hoping for pigs to fly from London to Paris? If they are not willing to play ball is there a legal avenue I can go down?

I have to say I just want back the money I have put in. Nothing more nothing less!!

This is my first post, so please be kind.

Have hovered around edge for a few weeks too, seeing what was being said as close friend involved in BB. Seems upgrade of some kind took place Thu and he cannot get into system. Pied Piper: have you had similar issues?

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Seems upgrade of some kind took place

Definitely not an UPGRADE as far as the victims are concerned, definitely an UPGRADE as far as the criminals running Banners Broker are concerned.

Ponzi schemes have been outstandingly successful at pulling in the money. Greedy investors are promised large returns on their money with little chance of losing it. Fast, excited talk of “low risk,” “no risk,” and “quick returns at high percentages” is what you will hear. Because people are first rewarded with a little money for their participation, the perpetrator of the scheme is thought to be something like financial genius. An illusion of a highly successful business is imagined. Those who buy in are considered “smart.” Those who stand autside, questioning, are considered “losers.” In the thinking of those he captures, Satan has a way of turning things upside down.

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

I must admit when I joined this thread about two weeks ago I wanted to debate the pros and cons of Banners Broker because I wasn't wholly convinced it was a scam now I totally am. I'd like a bit of advice if possible please.

I am based in the UK and have invested about $2000 ( £1200) into this. More worryingly I've been such a fool and uploaded copies of my passport and driving license onto their website I can't believe I've been so stupid. I've cancelled the debit card I used to upload onto the site I didn't use a credit card. I haven't ordered a banners broker credit card so I'm sure I haven't uploaded any more sensitive information like my mother's maiden name etc. What should I be doing in order to protect myself from identity fraud??

Also I know of people higher up the food chain apparently who have earned big bucks from this scam of course this is my money they are "earning" . I have expressed my concerns to my immediate upline but I think she is burying her head in the sand in all honesty. So my second question is when this thing is outed surely the decent thing for these people to do is recompense their downlines??? Or am I hoping for pigs to fly from London to Paris? If they are not willing to play ball is there a legal avenue I can go down?

I have to say I just want back the money I have put in. Nothing more nothing less!!

First of all, to be totally blunt, you have come to realise that you have been involved in a sophisticated fraud, not a legitimate enterprise, so normal remedies will not apply. Sadly, you stand to lose the lot. Having said that, you should certainly make every effort to try and recuperate the monies that were conned out of you. I do not know the reporting steps in the UK, but it looks as Poyol and others are already grouping together to take some action, and you would be well advised to talk to them.

IF BB is stopped by law enforcement in time and funds are recovered, then of course the chances of getting at least a proportion of your money out are greater. This was the fortunate outcome of the Secret Service raid on AdSurfDaily in 2008 and sufficient was frozen and forfeited to repay all those who claimed 100%. The Receiver in Zeek Rewards, stopped by the SEC and Secret Service is also prepáring to return a proportion to victims and planning clawbacks on the big winners, according to Government and Receiver statements.

I am sure there is someone here better versed on the specific and concrete procedures you can follow. Good luck.

At best you will have learnt a very costly but valuable lesson - if sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If BB has caused more serious damage in your life, my heart goes out to you.

To anyone who is reading and STILL believes that they are doing no harm participating in and/or promoting Brokers Banner or any other similar "investment/advertising" scheme, I can only repeat:-

These schemes are very very destructive in all their aspects. They are illegal, they promote greed and can cause immense and irreversible collateral damage to people on a financial and personal level. The founders and inner circle don't care. You have to decide for yourself whether the ends justify the means.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

This is my first post, so please be kind.

Have hovered around edge for a few weeks too, seeing what was being said as close friend involved in BB. Seems upgrade of some kind took place Thu and he cannot get into system. Pied Piper: have you had similar issues?

Welcome to the group AshKen1 why would any of us not be kind? :-) . No there are no issues for me for logging in at present. Although I'm sure once my identity becomes known I'm sure there might be .............

Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me

First of all, to be totally blunt, you have come to realise that you have been involved in a sophisticated fraud, not a legitimate enterprise, so normal remedies will not apply. Sadly, you stand to lose the lot. Having said that, you should certainly make every effort to try and recuperate the monies that were conned out of you. I do not know the reporting steps in the UK, but it looks as Poyol and others are already grouping together to take some action, and you would be well advised to talk to them.

IF BB is stopped by law enforcement in time and funds are recovered, then of course the chances of getting at least a proportion of your money out are greater. This was the fortunate outcome of the Secret Service raid on AdSurfDaily in 2008 and sufficient was frozen and forfeited to repay all those who claimed 100%. The Receiver in Zeek Rewards, stopped by the SEC and Secret Service is also prepáring to return a proportion to victims and planning clawbacks on the big winners, according to Government and Receiver statements.

I am sure there is someone here better versed on the specific and concrete procedures you can follow. Good luck.

At best you will have learnt a very costly but valuable lesson - if sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If BB has caused more serious damage in your life, my heart goes out to you.

To anyone who is reading and STILL believes that they are doing no harm participating in and/or promoting Brokers Banner or any other similar "investment/advertising" scheme, I can only repeat:-

These schemes are very very destructive in all their aspects. They are illegal, they promote greed and can cause immense and irreversible collateral damage to people on a financial and personal level. The founders and inner circle don't care. You have to decide for yourself whether the ends justify the means.

Thanks for the advice I can't get over how brazen some of the people are at the top of the tree are though ( Dixit etc) surely there can be nowhere to hide for these people when the whole thing collapses?

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

So my second question is when this thing is outed surely the decent thing for these people to do is recompense their downlines??? Or am I hoping for pigs to fly from London to Paris?

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Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

Thanks for the advice I can't get over how brazen some of the people are at the top of the tree are though ( Dixit etc) surely there can be nowhere to hide for these people when the whole thing collapses?

IM(very)HO, Britain is probably the worst of the western countries in which to a) obtain money back and b) prompt the authorities to act.

I know ostriches don't really bury their heads in the sand, but, I also know the powers that be in Britain can do a bloody good impression of an ostrich doing just that.

It will probably come down to a matter of cost vs benefit, in that, recovering any monies will probably require civil action.

I am not familiar enough with the British legal system to even guess at how much such a procedure would cost there.

Here's an interesting exercise for anyone who doubts my description of the British legal system is accurate when it comes to dealing with onlie fraud.

See how long it takes to find online complaint forms in say the U.S.A. and Australia.

Then, see if you can find 1) to whom you should complain in the first place and 2) an easy way to do it in Britain.

Hint: they have some excellent spin doctors but investigators are particularly light on the ground.

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

Thanks for the advice I can't get over how brazen some of the people are at the top of the tree are though ( Dixit etc) surely there can be nowhere to hide for these people when the whole thing collapses?

Yes there is a chance of getting a refund if there is a raid by the authorities any time soon and if the authorities are lucky enough to find any funds or assets. People who run the fraudulent investment opportunities are not stupid. When Zeek collapsed it was believed that it was a $600M enterprise with approximately 1 million victims. As of today it remains unknown how much, if any, of the funds lost in the scheme will be returned to affected "investors".

Surely, not all people who organizing these illegal entities are going to be arrested. Even if arrested, and even if the court order a repayment to their victims this would be by far a much lower figure than the total amount of money lost in the course. Sadly, the great majority of the brains of these scams are serial fraudsters and "coincidentally" escape without serious consequences. It is only a matter of time until they do a comeback with a new "high yield investment opportunity".

The bargaining is picking up speed on MMG. Watch the crabs getting frantic...

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

Thanks for the advice I can't get over how brazen some of the people are at the top of the tree are though ( Dixit etc) surely there can be nowhere to hide for these people when the whole thing collapses?

Because they are, what they proclaim is evil in their exposers......anonymous.

Originally Posted by noname999

The bargaining is picking up speed on MMG. Watch the crabs getting frantic...

The Pied Piper;30621~So my second question is when this thing is outed surely the decent thing for these people to do is recompense their downlines??? Or am I hoping for pigs to fly from London to Paris?

Unfortunately these are not decent people - they only play them at recruiting drives.

Originally Posted by Whip

Ever put a few crabs in a bucket? If not, don't worry. You will see exactly the same thing unfold over the next few weeks...