Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Brenda

Michael, another article, well done!

Firstly, I did love your diagrams :) I did wonder though, about the FB comments, seem to be from BB affiliates, are they disgruntled ones? My confused head read that they were loving the article but yet not concerned by it at the same time?

I had to read that part twice...those BB members were reacting to Terry's.. err, David's... explanation of how BB works, not Michael's article. So we are morons for not taking the time to understand. Laughable!! I for one cannot wait to see what that BB member says when everything goes kaput. Or maybe his silence will speak a thousand words instead! Either way, I'll bring the popcorn. :-)

Originally Posted by Whip

So what you're saying is, that one will not be approved.

and each 'edit' or 'punctuation correction' or 'spelling mistake' will cost you $5 so best you make it a polished piece

Originally Posted by Theseus

Much like his skiing, I get the feeling his BB business will soon be going downhill, fast....

...considering his 1241 likes, hardly anyone seems to be commenting on his waffle!

has anyone else checked out bannersbroker.com FAQ and other parts of their own company website (in spite of all the new versions!!!!) have answers like this.......
what is a banner ad?
A banner ad is an online advertisement. It is placed on other companies' websites, and more specifically, on those that relate to the advertiser's business. Our banner ads come in several different sizes:
•Leaderboard (728x90)
•Full Banner (468x60)
•Large Rectangle (336x280)
•Medium Rectangle (300x250)
•Skyscraper (120x600)
•Wide Skyscraper (160x600)
•Square Box (250x250)
•Vertical Banner (120x240)
•Button (125x125)
•Small Rectangle (180x150)

really? I thought bannersbroker's product was NOT advertising????????????

More unhappy punters over on BB Network FB page. Other comments include "the rules now for qualifying panels is beyond ridiculous" and "How do you write blogs?"

Chris, Raj, you ought to know that there is disquiet on a significant scale in the camp.....

9th March BB Netwrok extract.jpg

and this.............

Why should I advertise with Banners Broker?


As the number of worldwide Internet users continues to rise, so does the effectiveness of online advertising. Part of what makes online advertising so lucrative is the fact that, for a minimal cost compared to traditional forms of advertising, it enables you to target your campaign to specific age groups, consumer preferences and geographic regions. But, in order to execute this properly, it is critical that you find the perfect online ad space – a task that can be time consuming and overwhelming. This is where Banners Broker comes in. By advertising with us, you immediately gain access to a network of hundreds of thousands websites from around the world. Once you specify the details of your campaign, we place your advertisements on highly relevant sites that perfectly match your criteria.

bannersbroker.com now have a 'bb watch' section in the contacts tab, so you can alert them to any account that ought to be locked for breaking the rules

Originally Posted by Della Cate

More unhappy punters over on BB Network FB page. Other comments include "the rules now for qualifying panels is beyond ridiculous" and "How do you write blogs?"

Chris, Raj, you ought to know that there is disquiet on a significant scale in the camp.....

9th March BB Netwrok extract.jpg

sadly this is all part of the plan believers, most of you cannot articulate how bannersbroker works or what the product is etc. etc. etc. so cannot refer nor blog continuously on this scam

Originally Posted by kiwichick

bannersbroker.com now have a 'bb watch' section in the contacts tab, so you can alert them to any account that ought to be locked for breaking the rules

Ha, you couldn't make it up!

BB is Watching You

Originally Posted by Whip

So what you're saying is, that one will not be approved.

Banners Broker, Stellarpoint, or Raj Dixit, or somebody is gonna have to come up with some kind of fair marking system for the blogs.

However even if just 2,777 Affiliates take up the challenge
(and it is some challenge) that's 100,000 blog posts to mark Stellarpoint are going to need a bigger warehouse to house the extra employees who will do the marking. Or more likely they wont employ the extra employees needed and the affiliates could submit their blogs for marking and wait about 3 years or so to get it marked, receive them back with a mark and some comments like
"Not very original and not enough commas must do better" resubmit and wait another few years.
Banners Broker sure does need patience, and now nobody can say it's passive.

Anybody else think this blog thing could be some kind of delaying tactic?

No reply back from Iain Sherriff yet to my question. I'm guessing he is very very busy blogging.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

@Della Cate



Funny you should say that, I've had this same rubbish spouted at me by my mate.

That, to me, is what is so pernicious about this whole thing is that it is turning people who would normally class themselves as being honest into amoral, grubby, grabby horrors who are now not baulking at getting the money back in any way. Very much devil take the hindmost and "f**k you mate", I'll get in there first.

If you think that is judgemental, then I'm being judgemental. If you are offended by what I've just said, then please ask yourself why? Have I hit a nerve??

I'm nobody special, I'm just a friend to someone who has changed what he has believed in over the last year and I really don't like what I see. I am now getting off my soapbox and will leave the room to calm down.....

Well said. And as well as potentially losing money your friend is going to find himself invited to less nights out as his downline will include other friends. You are not too judgemental- we all want to make money, sometimes by negotiating hard, but not by outright scammerry.

Still can't understand how this referral thing works. I earn money as an accountant. Going out trying to get other people to become accountants isn't classed as work for me. So how is getting new victims in "work"? Unless of course BB is a ponzi? But this can't be the case because Terry/David said it wasn't and he is an honourable man. Apologies for nicking the last bit from Julius Caeser but it seemed to fit.

Originally Posted by Brenda

Michael, another article, well done!

Firstly, I did love your diagrams :) I did wonder though, about the FB comments, seem to be from BB affiliates, are they disgruntled ones? My confused head read that they were loving the article but yet not concerned by it at the same time?

Hi Brenda, thanks! I realised that the paragraph introducing the FB comments wasn't very clear, so I changed that now.

By the way, my blog is 2172 words long. The equivalent of 4 BB blogs at best. This took me many hours. If I need to do 9 times the work to qualify one panel, I'd rather go and stack shelves in Asda, thanks.

Edit: Just realised, my blog won't count as it violates BB's criteria. Specifically:

•All articles must contain content that is inline with the particular pubsite's brand/voice. (And not include anything related to adult content, gambling, illegal activities, fraud, or self-promotion).

It's all about fraud and illegal activities! As is any blog about BB. See what they did there? haha.

More on Banners Broker

Originally Posted by Dreamstealer

Well said. And as well as potentially losing money your friend is going to find himself invited to less nights out as his downline will include other friends. You are not too judgemental- we all want to make money, sometimes by negotiating hard, but not by outright scammerry.

Dreamstealer: my mate is probably going to watch his marriage disappear up in smoke as well as this is not the first financial coc...er mistake he's made either. So he's now back on the recruitment drive, so that's more people who are potentially going to be looking to perhaps pursue him physically or legally at the end when they find that their money has disappeared into thin air. It's enough to make a grown man weep for his stupidity.

Has anyone checked out the legal aspect of whether a recruiter can be sued by those invited for damages? I think it certainly is fraudulent misrepresentation, never mind out and out fraud. Any legal bods out there??

I asked earlier about BB and their tax position - what is the view of anyone who is tax-literate on what taxes could and should be payable by BB/BBI/HMRC or any other taxation body?

Raj/Chris/Terry/Kul or any of you lovely BB people who constantly watch this forum, care to share your views?

Originally Posted by brenie

@ della

this is how the blog should look like from BB backoffice

Article Incentive


Incentive Rules
•All articles must be between 400 and 1200 words.
•All articles must be written in 3rd person perspective (unless granted permission by editor to write in 1st person perspective)
•All articles must contain content that is inline with the particular pubsite's brand/voice. (And not include anything related to adult content, gambling, illegal activities, fraud, or self-promotion).
•All content must be approved by an editor in order to be considered valid for incentive traffic.
•All articles must be written by the affiliate stated. Plagiarism and multiple authors will not be accepted.
•All articles must be divided clearly into short paragraphs, with easy readability and proper punctuation and grammar.
•Articles must include appropriate research – and be unique to other articles found on the same site


kind regards

brenie

Thanks brenie for posting the requirements.

I've highlighted a few points that I wish to respond to, please take it as read that this is completely written in <sarcasm> font!!!

FFS! What utter tosh!! Most of the affiliates won't have a freaking clue what a "3rd person perspective" is.

Plagiarism? Ha, ha, ha. That's rich coming from BB - see the "Blind Network" drivel constantly spouted...

Research? Why no requirement to put in foot or end notes? Surely this is a mistake to miss that bit off?

I am surprised they have not "invested" (stop it, my sides are killing me with laughter) for an academic system to detect plagiarism....This is for a BLOG - not a flaming PhD thesis....

What utter, utter crap!!!!!

Originally Posted by Brenda

Michael, another article, well done!

Firstly, I did love your diagrams :) I did wonder though, about the FB comments, seem to be from BB affiliates, are they disgruntled ones? My confused head read that they were loving the article but yet not concerned by it at the same time?

They were loving it Brenda! All are just sheep following the goats!

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Banners Broker, Stellarpoint, or Raj Dixit, or somebody is gonna have to come up with some kind of fair marking system for the blogs.

However even if just 2,777 Affiliates take up the challenge
(and it is some challenge) that's 100,000 blog posts to mark Stellarpoint are going to need a bigger warehouse to house the extra employees who will do the marking. Or more likely they wont employ the extra employees needed and the affiliates could submit their blogs for marking and wait about 3 years or so to get it marked, receive them back with a mark and some comments like
"Not very original and not enough commas must do better" resubmit and wait another few years.
Banners Broker sure does need patience, and now nobody can say it's passive.

Anybody else think this blog thing could be some kind of delaying tactic?

No reply back from Iain Sherriff yet to my question. I'm guessing he is very very busy blogging.

I see the bloging thing and other subscam to follow shortly ,only as alibi for bb creators,once they start new scam or if bb mutates into another scam,to say - we were honest admin ,we did everything but members were to lazy,did not understand importance of work needed or whatever...or...with other words...the scammers are already planing to quit BB and start new adventure as clean staff...now they are not washing money only but themselves as well

Originally Posted by Mundorf

I see the bloging thing and other subscam to follow shortly ,only as alibi for bb creators,once they start new scam or if bb mutates into another scam,to say - we were honest admin ,we did everything but members were to lazy,did not understand importance of work needed or whatever...or...with other words...the scammers are already planing to quit BB and start new adventure as clean staff...now they are not washing money only but themselves as well

yup. it's the same as that dave bell scam where he was going to allegedly create a bunch of bogus websites, have the 'affiliates' comment on them to try and raise their rank and then attempt to sell them to the unsuspecting.

Originally Posted by Whip

yup. it's the same as that dave bell scam where he was going to allegedly create a bunch of bogus websites, have the 'affiliates' comment on them to try and raise their rank and then attempt to sell them to the unsuspecting.

Could a sudden case of Dengue Fever be next?

PPBlog

There are reports from our group of STP payouts. However, I would remind us all that many of these had been "paid" previously and then reversed. As a result, this is no big deal in my opinion.

Otherwise there have been no reports of payouts to the BB card this week.

With all the new requirements coming in April, it may be time to stick a fork in this one. It has now gotten to the point where the "leaders" in our Skype group no longer allow any "negativity". They say the group is there just for "support". Not sure what that means?

Mark

...have just been surfing and found our friend with the 'pointy finger' good old boy Stepsy (he of the warning by OFT to never be a naughty boy again and scam old ladies etc, etc) He lists his job as 'with TEXSTAR' (FB started 15th October 2012)which is run by Janelle Klintworth. TEXSTAR is a recruitment company who 'assists people with locating employment with Automobile dealerships'..so that would make our Simon a 'used car salesman'? I really don't know where he finds the time..as he also fits in all this lot to:


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I think he has missed a few things off his CV actually..Arthur Daley eat your heart out

Originally Posted by baylee

Below is a link to the internet Crime Center or IC3 where you or others can file a complaint on line.

The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C).


Link:

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home

thanks for this baylee. i know this sounds really dumb but this looks a US site, does it matter that i'm from the UK?

If there is ANYBODY out there from BB today, can you please answer my questions?
1/Why is it that the only people who are getting paid are the ones who say nice things about BB? Nobody saying negative things seems to be having any luck…which seems to indicate that payments are manually selected rather than automated. Computers, after all, don’t care if someone is mean to them.
2/Why do you think the website keeps closing for maintenance? Because BB is SO busy handling new business..when banks deal with MILLIONS of pounds of transactions every day in seconds, not weeks. IF BB is a multi million pound business then there IT dept should be absolutely **** hot and have the BEST guys in the world don’t you think?
3/ Why does BB need so much identification? My online buisness requires just my email and a paypal account and it pays ON TIME, ALWAYS. AND it doesn’t close my account if I say something bad about it!
4/ How do panels ‘mature’? Cheese matures, wine matures, teenagers mature eventually…but ADVERTS? Not so much…

An Update: I got paid mid-week, $292.47 landed in my BB card, that payment was originally due 17Feb then became TBD and was paid mid-week last week. First withdrawal.
Cheers.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

If there is ANYBODY out there from BB today, can you please answer my questions?
1/Why is it that the only people who are getting paid are the ones who say nice things about BB? Nobody saying negative things seems to be having any luck…which seems to indicate that payments are manually selected rather than automated. Computers, after all, don’t care if someone is mean to them.
2/Why do you think the website keeps closing for maintenance? Because BB is SO busy handling new business..when banks deal with MILLIONS of pounds of transactions every day in seconds, not weeks. IF BB is a multi million pound business then there IT dept should be absolutely **** hot and have the BEST guys in the world don’t you think?
3/ Why does BB need so much identification? My online buisness requires just my email and a paypal account and it pays ON TIME, ALWAYS. AND it doesn’t close my account if I say something bad about it!
4/ How do panels ‘mature’? Cheese matures, wine matures, teenagers mature eventually…but ADVERTS? Not so much…