Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Trying to trick their victims into not doing any research says it all really.

Even mark Stokes tells people to do their own due diligence, although he has a reason for that, he somehow thinks that mitigates his responsibility once people realise they have been scammed. So it's not his fault is his victims lose their life savings.

one can only conclude that Finch and RS must be really hurting them and their recruitment drive!

well is this the REAL starting of the end of banners broker? the site now displays the 502 error and the last twitt was from 19/02.. I can say one good thing about this, I liked the design of the error page, the hot air balloon is probably the way that chris smith is using right now to run away with all the money he got.

Originally Posted by JordanBright

well is this the REAL starting of the end of banners broker? the site now displays the 502 error and the last twitt was from 19/02.. I can say one good thing about this, I liked the design of the error page, the hot air balloon is probably the way that chris smith is using right now to run away with all the money he got.

Are they under way now ?

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Evening all. Here's something from BB Facts and Updates, posted 9 hours ago.

I think they are still down.....

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Bruce Lamb has moved his little blog to a new site, if anyone is interested/cares:-

Banner Alchemy

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Bruce Lamb has moved his little blog to a new site, if anyone is interested/cares:-

Banner Alchemy

Seeing as the most hits he ever had in one day was about 70 & that just us, I doubt many are.

But pop along anyway it might give him a thrill.

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Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Are they under way now ?

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Is that the new BB venture - balloon flights in Egypt?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Evening all. Here's something from BB Facts and Updates, posted 9 hours ago.

I think they are still down.....

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Running on safari. Same old ding-dong. Must be great having Chris...the computer genius, to prevent all these little problems...

bb is back :/ until the next time guys :)

From Banners Broker Terms and Conditions:

"In the event of the company closing, the company reserves the right to sell or transfer the intellectual property, programming code, and membership database at its sole discretion. Section L (Affiliate & Client) .bannersbroker.com/main/termsandconditions 6/9"

AND:

7.The Company may reject an Affiliate Agreement, declare any agreement void from its inception, or terminate a distributorship if an affiliate:
a.Fails to provide documentation requested or required by the company.


So, if you give them your signature..you will either run the risk of it being sold on OR if you DONT give them your signature, your account will be terminated

John says:
February 26, 2013 at 2:27 pm
...Have you heard of Banners Broker, and if so what do you think about them. I have put some money in them, and I have also put money in Sunrise..

Take note...Banners Broker AND Profitable Sunrise....

Amanda says:
February 27, 2013 at 3:11 am
@John. I have heard of them and have friends that have joined, as well. I suppose I should say I’m undecided...

Her 'friend' is Deborah (aka Hearthworth9). They have been 'friends in SCAMS for quite some time...and heeere she comes...look below...

Deborah says:
March 1, 2013 at 1:45 am
Hi gang,
Next week my contract ends and then I start again. I am very excited to make a large withdrawal.
I am in Banners Brokers, it takes some work to build and learn as they keep fine tuning things. There are rooms in skype dedicated to Banners Brokers so contact me if you are needing additional support (heartworth9 is my contact name in skype).

These 'Scam PLayers' are everywhere...especially these two...They will 'butter you up'...'suck you in'...'gladly take your ref comms'....And you will be left wondering what the hell happened...

Originally Posted by HARRISON

...they said it was 'MANDATED' by Allied Wallet??

You're right. My bad.

Originally Posted by JordanBright

well is this the REAL starting of the end of banners broker? the site now displays the 502 error and the last twitt was from 19/02.. I can say one good thing about this, I liked the design of the error page, the hot air balloon is probably the way that chris smith is using right now to run away with all the money he got.

The end game started weeks ago.....

It may mean you'll have to hang around and watch the demise of another 10 or 20 HYIP ponzi frauds, Jason, but, you'll soon be able to pick the signs of the "end game" in your sleep.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

From Banners Broker Terms and Conditions:

"In the event of the company closing, the company reserves the right to sell or transfer the intellectual property, programming code, and membership database at its sole discretion. Section L (Affiliate & Client) .bannersbroker.com/main/termsandconditions 6/9"

AND:

7.The Company may reject an Affiliate Agreement, declare any agreement void from its inception, or terminate a distributorship if an affiliate:
a.Fails to provide documentation requested or required by the company.


So, if you give them your signature..you will either run the risk of it being sold on OR if you DONT give them your signature, your account will be terminated

Could be way off here, but I don't think the signature requirement is for further fraudulent use by BB. IMO, I think it will be a way of buying time. There must be 3 groups here,

one group will , without question or delay, supply it to BB, in other words, their blind supporters
the next group will be those who are now getting nervous, sitting on the fence and playing the 'will I won't I?' game
the last group will see this as the final nail for them in the BB coffin, see it for what it is and not comply, most likely cut their losses.

In conclusion, two of the three groups will have allowed BB another opportunity to NOT pay, again, making it look for those 2 groups that they CAN'T be paid, due to non compliance on their OWN part and just one group ABLE to request payment as they have complied. Given that we know that the compliant group are posting all over the net they are having difficulty being paid, BB must be virtually paying out nothing at the moment.

Again, just my opinion ;)

Originally Posted by Hypanor

That fixes the late payments - how can they be late when you don't know in what year it will be paid.

He really got the next bit wrong, he should employ a secretary to write his notes. I've fixed it up for him, no charge!

This is really nice, The fixes are for last almost three month.... They have to chanfge the story with technical problems. I know that the people can understand technical things, but we did for two hours our page The truth about Banners Broker and there is no technical issue in Banners Broker. The problem is that they are waiting for new sheep to give them money for pay out the old one and surrive few month more....

I do not understand, if the system so grate, where is the affilate with withdraw information???

Hey guys, did I miss something in banners broker, I did not log in to there in a while and now there is a talk about signature and stuff? what's all that about, can someone update me?

Originally Posted by Truebannersbroker

This is really nice, The fixes are for last almost three month.... They have to chanfge the story with technical problems. I know that the people can understand technical things, but we did for two hours our page The truth about Banners Broker and there is no technical issue in Banners Broker. The problem is that they are waiting for new sheep to give them money for pay out the old one and surrive few month more....

I do not understand, if the system so grate, where is the affilate with withdraw information???

I have to ask you , do you think BB is a scam? If yes, how long have you felt this way? Have you brought many others into BB?

I do have a small problem with you posting your story about being unable to be paid, I don't know what you want us to do about that? What research did you do before you joined?

Our reasons for being here are to expose BB for what it is and prevent others from joining. That said, I suppose it is good for others reading here, looking at investing in BB that they can see that members are NOT being paid.

The more people we have on the inside the better.

This whole BB thing has been a massive lesson to me. I never knew such things existed. I'd heard of pyramid schemes, and ponzi schemes, but I'd no real knowledge of them or how they worked. And though I'd seen banners on the internet, I knew nothing about them or about internet marketing in general.

It all only came to my attention when 3 friends of mine said they were thinking about going in for it. One subsequently did, against all advice, even that of his wife; he said we were all wrong and it was a "real" business, he thought he could make money out of it even if it took him a few months. But now, only 6 weeks or so in, he's quite disillusioned, although he still cherishes that slight hope that things may work out.......As for his introducer, my favourite affiliate, he has gone dead quiet on his little blog, and is now avoiding discussing it with my friend. Funny, because previously he couldn't stop talking about it.

I've taken it upon myself to find out more and its all been an education and a revelation, believe me.

I did, however, have a brush with a scam about 12 or so years ago. Anyone out there remember gifting schemes - in particular, "Women Empowering Women"? I was actually invited to join one by someone I worked with at the time.

Well - I didn't.

You see, what I thought was this: What is empowering about my giving money to a stranger in the hope that one day a stranger will give money to me? I also worked out the maths on this thing, and could see that it was completely hopeless. I think these gifting schemes became such a scandal in the UK that they were outlawed. But, as ever, some people made money out of them, although very many more lost out. (It would be interesting to know if any of the BB high-ups have a history in this kind of thing.)

I was also suspicious because although it was dressed up as "empowering" women - how it did not say - it wasn't about that at all. It was about money. Just as BB may boast it is "changing lives all over the world"; when that's just nonsense - it's all about making money. Or rather, the appearance of money. From the first I've never believed in those big numbers in an "e-wallet". Just like "Women Empowering Women" it doesn't make sense to me and that's why I've stayed away.

And fundamentally, I think its all wrong. To take money from people, especially those who don't have much, in the way BB is doing, is just plain wrong. I don't care if some people have made money from it, or will make money from it, my feeling is a lot more will be badly burned by this and it's just not on!

I am going to stay on RS ready for the next fad and fancy to come along - and to see BB out too. I don't think BB is quite finished yet. It worries me that they are targeting Poland for a start. But I'd like to see it finished in the UK, that would be a beginning.......

Hey Jordan,

yes, the latest thing from BB is as follows:-

Credit Card Authorization - NEW PAGE.

Trying to combat fraud. Alot of stolen credit cards create problems. I have been a victim of this in the past. People are stealing info from cards and this can create a problem with fraud. So, go here and fill out this form.. all members with BB card. Your signature needs to be on file, in case of future fraud activity. This will help with the bank to prove it was an authorization transactions. This is to protect you. This has been mandated by Allied Wallet.

All members must fill out this form!!

Help us, so we can help you be secure!

So now, as well as your notarised ID, passport, credit card number etc they also want your signature on file. Not the best of ideas.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Hey Jordan,

yes, the latest thing from BB is as follows:-

Credit Card Authorization - NEW PAGE.

Trying to combat fraud. Alot of stolen credit cards create problems. I have been a victim of this in the past. People are stealing info from cards and this can create a problem with fraud. So, go here and fill out this form.. all members with BB card. Your signature needs to be on file, in case of future fraud activity. This will help with the bank to prove it was an authorization transactions. This is to protect you. This has been mandated by Allied Wallet.

All members must fill out this form!!

Help us, so we can help you be secure!

So now, as well as your notarised ID, passport, credit card number etc they also want your signature on file. Not the best of ideas.

I know one thing for sure for a long time, allied wallet is working with them, when I asked about allied wallet giving credit card numbers to banners broker the didn't even hide it, they just said yes..
well I'm not on the safe side but at least they don't have my notarised ID or signature, by the way don't forget about the "proof of address.."

Originally Posted by Brenda

Could be way off here, but I don't think the signature requirement is for further fraudulent use by BB. IMO, I think it will be a way of buying time. There must be 3 groups here,

one group will , without question or delay, supply it to BB, in other words, their blind supporters
the next group will be those who are now getting nervous, sitting on the fence and playing the 'will I won't I?' game
the last group will see this as the final nail for them in the BB coffin, see it for what it is and not comply, most likely cut their losses.

In conclusion, two of the three groups will have allowed BB another opportunity to NOT pay, again, making it look for those 2 groups that they CAN'T be paid, due to non compliance on their OWN part and just one group ABLE to request payment as they have complied. Given that we know that the compliant group are posting all over the net they are having difficulty being paid, BB must be virtually paying out nothing at the moment.

Again, just my opinion ;)

That's a good point, Brenda. A good way to delay payments even further, or deny them altogether.

Originally Posted by noname999

The more people we have on the inside the better.

Absolutely! But, only if the insiders are bringing anything to the table. IMO, it's not good enough to just be here because you can't get paid by BB. I'm all about prevention, not just cure.

I agree Brenda, but the way I look at it in this case, this person can't get paid and is making noise about it. That should help provide a deterrent.