Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Beacon

Should anyone want to get in touch with them about the case it lists
1. S T A T E
(Through P.I. attached to
CID, Economic Wing,
Panaji, Goa)
2. The Asst. Public Prosecutor,
attached to the JMFC Court,
Panaji-Goa. … Respondents

Respondents represented by Learned APP. Ms. J. Santamaria at the
time of arguments.

She has been working as a public prosecutor since 2003 I reckon
http://www.goaprintingpress.gov.in/d...-10-SII-OG.pdf

Appointment Number 27 on the second page backdated from 2012 to 2003

Has anybody contacted the India Prosecutors office to bring this, and finches website to their attention?

Perhaps a niceley drafted email containing a condensed version of the main points gathered so far against BB would be appropriate at this point?

Originally Posted by Beacon

Welcome to real scam. Your comments on Banners Broker are appreciated if and when you supply any information about them.

1. You did NOT quote me as the above was by your admission your FIRST post. It contains no quote from me or attributed to me. Please get your facts straight.

2. I did not personally attack anyone at any stage. I pointed out that if one claims things like " there is no such thing as wrong and right ..it all depends on the personal point of view" then one can justify anything at all! ANYTHING. Whether that is Banners Broker is a fair business or the Holocaust never happened. that is NOT off topic. It is how one can move from the general argument to a particular example but how one can not make a particular point and generalise it as if it were true in all cases.

3. I am not a "newb". If you look under my name you will NOT see "junior member".
If you look at how may "likes" I have had you might well see that your perception that I am a "noob" is incorrect.

How much of this thread have you actually read? When you refer to scams in "Cork" to whom/what do you specifically refer and when did it occur?

Im not engaging on the politics and semantics that you are keen to make a feature of your involvement in this thread but i will answer your questions.

I have read all of the thread. It is concise and informative and a credit to the participants.

The scams that i refer to are the 'Speedball' pyramid schemes which were active 2/3 (iirc) years back. They originated in Munich and were introduced to Cork via people in West Cork and i know a lot of the involved including one of the main players. The scheme was brought to Cork City by another that i know (a streetwise/scummer city girl based in West Cork) and it then went national for a while. I spent a lot of time trying to explain the basic maths behind these schemes to people in West Cork on my trips there (i have close connections and spend much time there) and it was akin to trying to explain the theory of relativity to a mallard. The fallout was huge when the s**t hit the fan and this included a farmer having his cows shot (he also being a butcher was a key recruiter) and a guy having his house broken into on his holidays where it is believed he was relieved of 100k+ of his ill gotten gain that were secreted in the attic (#karmakicktothenetherregion).
To think that some others would introduce this scheme so soon after the last fallout... Some business people in Skibbereen (West Cork town for those not au fait) are very active in that area. To be involved in the first wave could have been spun as being ignorant. To be involved now is pernicious.

Originally Posted by Beethoven

Has anybody contacted the India Prosecutors office to bring this, and finches website to their attention?

Perhaps a niceley drafted email containing a condensed version of the main points gathered so far against BB would be appropriate at this point?

How about pointing them to this in the Indian dashboard:

"Here are the instructions if you request a withdrawal:

Their payment is ready for pick up at any nearest branch of receiving banks or agents. Client should know that it is coming from Banners Brokers.

When claiming mention, "Wall street" and "Sender name" if bank ask what's the type of transaction, the answer is "Personal transaction".
Ask client to bring 2 valid ID's. And be ready with the necessary information needed for them to claim their pay. Such as; transaction code or reference number and receiving amount."

Given that BB India's accounts are currently frozen, I'm sure the prosecutor would take particular interest in these instructions!

Originally Posted by Martin88

How about pointing them to this in the Indian dashboard:

"Here are the instructions if you request a withdrawal:

Their payment is ready for pick up at any nearest branch of receiving banks or agents. Client should know that it is coming from Banners Brokers.

When claiming mention, "Wall street" and "Sender name" if bank ask what's the type of transaction, the answer is "Personal transaction".
Ask client to bring 2 valid ID's. And be ready with the necessary information needed for them to claim their pay. Such as; transaction code or reference number and receiving amount."

Given that BB India's accounts are currently frozen, I'm sure the prosecutor would take particular interest in these instructions!

Oh the irony of it! Your regular Joe Soap, sending in support tickets like there is no tomorrow , can't get a bob out of them.

Then you've got BB India, concocting clandestine methods of nods winks and funny handshakes for the Indian affiliates to get their money.

No doubt, when the payments don't happen it will be the affiliates fault for doing the wink before the nod or whatever

Martin, your point is not lost on me though, perhaps someone might inform the authorities , Beacon, you seem to have a good understanding and a lot of the contact details?

"If you lie down with dogs, you're gonna get up with fleas"

If the dogs are criminals with the right enemies, you might get up with holes in you, too...

Originally Posted by littleroundman

People believe because they WANT to believe

They WANT to believe there is such a thing as a "passive income"

They WANT to believe they are not condemned to a life of 9 to 5 and drudgery.

They WANT to believe "positive thinking" will override logic.

They WANT to believe it's as easy as Robert Kiyosaki / Tony Robbins / Donald Trump et al make out.

They WANT to believe it's possible to turn $80 into a million dollars like REALSCAM.com member Fendaril says in THIS POST

They WANT to believe there's a widow of a recently deceased Nigerian diplomat who wants to share $12 billion with them.

Fraudsters unashamedly play on peoples "hopes" and "desires" and recognize that for many people "logic" has very little to do with it.

Hello, I would like to say WE WANT to know the TRUE and because of that we made the web pages for this reason. Please active people in BB please come and say your TRUE about them.

Please say the web pages to your friend which are still believe and still WANT to believe.... that the BB is real future. We do not thing so...

Truth about Banners Broker

Originally Posted by Truebannersbroker

Hello, I would like to say WE WANT to know the TRUE and because of that we made the web pages for this reason. Please active people in BB please come and say your TRUE about them.

Please say the web pages to your friend which are still believe and still WANT to believe.... that the BB is real future. We do not thing so...

Truth about Banners Broker

Hello TBB,

Welcome to Realscam. I wish you every success in your search for the truth. I am afraid for you, that the writing is already on the wall :( Please keep us up to date on your progress.

Dear Brenda,

Thank you for nice portal about the scams.

it is ok, in a short time we will see where is the TRUE about Banners Broker. They do not want to show nothing and just playing with our money. The have technicals problem for 2 month, but new version they upgrade for 5 hours :) WE WANT TO KNOW THE TRUE. It is ok for us that we are on the wall. A lot of people have the same questions as me, everyday... for 2 years... Probably we do not want the TRUE and we will be passive, probably all of us which provide our money would like to know the TRUE. We will see, we just start...

The applicant shall deposit an amount of Rupees Two Lakhs in
this Court as security for her return to Goa.

That's not even £2500, I'd say that's a pretty cheap escape. Of course India now have an extradition treaty in place with Portugal (and have had for 5 or so years), perhaps BB's team of high priced lawyers didn't apprise Ms Onofre of that fact....

So, let me get this straight....

BB in India has its accounts frozen.

Their Ic spent time in the slammer but is now out on bail.

They can access their office when the said IC returns to Goa.

They cannot access their papers, computers etc in the offices even when they get into them, because they are still under lock and key.

The accusation is stated in the court papers as "an economic offence involving a huge sum of money"

Sounds like pretty serious stuff to me......Oh, and if their accounts are frozen, just how will they pay their affiliates? Not that they ever seem to do that, of course, but theoretically, how could they?

Writing well and truly on the wall if you ask me.

Hey, Joe Shmoe (and all of us here) - RS gets another mention on Mr Bruce Lamb's site; posted 27th Feb in which we are called "Thumbsuckers".

Joe Shmoe, you are singled out for special attention. He claims that our visiting his little site is helping his incentive traffic. Good for him!

He rambles on about other things as well, but I won't bore you with it. If anyone feels inclined, here is the link:-

Banners Broker A Journey - Banner Alchemy

Originally Posted by littleroundman

People believe because they WANT to believe

They WANT to believe there is such a thing as a "passive income"

They WANT to believe they are not condemned to a life of 9 to 5 and drudgery.

They WANT to believe "positive thinking" will override logic.

They WANT to believe it's as easy as Robert Kiyosaki / Tony Robbins / Donald Trump et al make out.

They WANT to believe it's possible to turn $80 into a million dollars like REALSCAM.com member Fendaril says in THIS POST

They WANT to believe there's a widow of a recently deceased Nigerian diplomat who wants to share $12 billion with them.

Fraudsters unashamedly play on peoples "hopes" and "desires" and recognize that for many people "logic" has very little to do with it.

You are so right. An awful lot of bollox is passed off as "positive thinking".

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Hey, Joe Shmoe (and all of us here) - RS gets another mention on Mr Bruce Lamb's site; posted 27th Feb in which we are called "Thumbsuckers".

Joe Shmoe, you are singled out for special attention.

Well done Joe Shmoe on a job well done

LOL!
Best, "Take that money" made my day dude :-)

Originally Posted by della cate

hey, joe shmoe (and all of us here) - rs gets another mention on mr bruce lamb's site; posted 27th feb in which we are called "thumbsuckers".

Joe shmoe, you are singled out for special attention. He claims that our visiting his little site is helping his incentive traffic. Good for him!

He rambles on about other things as well, but i won't bore you with it. If anyone feels inclined, here is the link:-

banners broker a journey - banner alchemy

whoops !!!!

blog has been removed

sorry, the blog at bannersbrokerajourney.blogspot.com has been removed. this address is not available for new blogs.
Did you expect to see your blog here? See: 'i can't find my blog on the web, where is it?'

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Hey, Joe Shmoe (and all of us here) - RS gets another mention on Mr Bruce Lamb's site; posted 27th Feb in which we are called "Thumbsuckers".

Whereas he is just a sucker....

Originally Posted by Le Chapeau

Im not engaging on the politics and semantics that you are keen to make a feature of your involvement in this thread but i will answer your questions.

I have read all of the thread. It is concise and informative and a credit to the participants.

The scams that i refer to are the 'Speedball' pyramid schemes which were active 2/3 (iirc) years back. They originated in Munich and were introduced to Cork via people in West Cork and i know a lot of the involved including one of the main players. The scheme was brought to Cork City by another that i know (a streetwise/scummer city girl based in West Cork) and it then went national for a while. I spent a lot of time trying to explain the basic maths behind these schemes to people in West Cork on my trips there (i have close connections and spend much time there) and it was akin to trying to explain the theory of relativity to a mallard. The fallout was huge when the s**t hit the fan and this included a farmer having his cows shot (he also being a butcher was a key recruiter) and a guy having his house broken into on his holidays where it is believed he was relieved of 100k+ of his ill gotten gain that were secreted in the attic (#karmakicktothenetherregion).
To think that some others would introduce this scheme so soon after the last fallout... Some business people in Skibbereen (West Cork town for those not au fait) are very active in that area. To be involved in the first wave could have been spun as being ignorant. To be involved now is pernicious.

The singer may change, but the song remains the same:

This from 2008:

Originally Posted by littleroundman

whoops !!!!

It's funny, when you go into the Google cache you can bring up every (deleted) page on his site, except this one...

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its been over a week since banners brokers deleted negative comments.

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Now that Finch is posting under his own facebook account and his comments are not being deleted I can only conclude that someone has run off with the password.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

whoops !!!!

I was only trying to help the guy out with a litte extra traffic 'cos he said he loves it so much.
Then he goes & deletes his Blog. Well that a Banners Broker sucker for you. He could not defend the indefensible.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

I was only trying to help the guy out with a litte extra traffic 'cos he said he loves it so much.
Then he goes & deletes his Blog. Well that a Banners Broker sucker for you. He could not defend the indefensible.

Well Done Joe! Thumbs Up!

I might go for a Brucie bonus

Brucie is a busy boy http://uk.linkedin.com/in/brucelamb

Gonna have a little dig into this outfit http://www.boxndice.com/

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OOOOHHHH!!!! look FlexKom I wonder if he knows Ian Driscoll?


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Originally Posted by Le Chapeau

Im not engaging on the politics and semantics that you are keen to make a feature of your involvement in this thread but i will answer your questions.

Thanks for your answers about other Cork "speedball" scams (which by the way have noting to do with Banners Broker do they? but far be it from "newbs" like me to deem it off topic?)
as for "politics" and "semantics"

Here is what you stated in your words [I assume you know what "..." means]

I quoted this Beacon chap as he seems to enjoy taking the story off topic and it is a pity as most of the content is knowledgeable, informative, erudite and to the point and ...it's a pity that the newb throws it off course.

THAT is a clear personal comment about me. Not semantics.

I have read all of the thread. It is concise and informative and a credit to the participants.

If you deem it so "concise" and "informative" would you care to list the ten comments the best from from each thousand beginning at #1 up to #9400 and explain how in your view (having read all of them which are so concise) how they are also "erudite2 and deserve to be considered as outstanding from the thousand or so comments into which they are numerically grouped?

Originally Posted by Brenda

Beacon, you seem to have a good understanding and a lot of the contact details?

For a contact address see section 7
http://www.goa.gov.in/pdf/ProsecutionCharter.pdf

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

I might go for a Brucie bonus

Brucie is a busy boy http://uk.linkedin.com/in/brucelamb

Gonna have a little dig into this outfit http://www.boxndice.com/

Screen Shot 2013-03-01 at 00.45.00.jpg

OOOOHHHH!!!! look FlexKom I wonder if he knows Ian Driscoll?


Company Check - Free company financial check on CAROUSEL LOTTERY UK LTD. Registered number 07425409. Free company accounts. Companies House information


Carousel Lotteries CAROUSEL LOTTERY


Also search for Banners Broker on this Page http://newdawnrovers.blogspot.co.uk/

If they fill up on fuel provided by Banners Broker revenue they ain't gonna get far.

Oh wow, I never realised that BB was the solution to the global food sustainability issue. Nice going Bruce!
I think BB is also going to stop all wars, crime (thats ironic!), and will pay for the first manned mission to Mars. Rumour has it that BB will also cure cancer, and stop global warming (the natural process).

"Specific detail of the purchase and progress can found by searching for New Dawn on the BB a journey blog as we progress with this much needed solution to youth disengagement and third world food sustainability issues." Bruce Lamb - 30/11/2012